DYKWIA - The 2017 thread
#796
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: London
Posts: 517
I absolutely love this thread and am only sad that now I am mostly ex-ZRH and not LHR, I don't have a dedicated thread (nor indeed do I see much of this behaviour, though the annoying clapping on a successful landing does seem more prevalent on the Star(k) side.
Nevertheless, if I may, a few compiled stories from the past:
* in CPH many years ago, extremely loud and obnoxious finance-type in late twenties. The ones who give us a bad name. Spouting bile at a junior and giving enough details about a behind-the-wall deal that I could recognise, being peripherally involved. I found the guy quite quickly on LinkedIn, and when the convo ended, asked him cordially, "is this you? I generally have a no jerks policy. Shall we find out if your boss does too? If not, am sure that your compliance department will love you sharing public info about Project X."
* not so much DYKWIA as "I didn't know who he was", I struck up a fascinating convo in ZRH with a gentleman who downgraded himself from J to middle seat Y to carry on our conversation. (Lady originally seated thought she struck the lottery, and we got a lot of free champagne snuck back in paper cups). In a boozy haze, I just recall recommending FT to him, and only when I got back did I find out... He had been a regional head of a very prominent private jet company. Doh.
Nevertheless, if I may, a few compiled stories from the past:
* in CPH many years ago, extremely loud and obnoxious finance-type in late twenties. The ones who give us a bad name. Spouting bile at a junior and giving enough details about a behind-the-wall deal that I could recognise, being peripherally involved. I found the guy quite quickly on LinkedIn, and when the convo ended, asked him cordially, "is this you? I generally have a no jerks policy. Shall we find out if your boss does too? If not, am sure that your compliance department will love you sharing public info about Project X."
* not so much DYKWIA as "I didn't know who he was", I struck up a fascinating convo in ZRH with a gentleman who downgraded himself from J to middle seat Y to carry on our conversation. (Lady originally seated thought she struck the lottery, and we got a lot of free champagne snuck back in paper cups). In a boozy haze, I just recall recommending FT to him, and only when I got back did I find out... He had been a regional head of a very prominent private jet company. Doh.
#797
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: BA Silver, Mucci
Posts: 5,289
Just boarded the Finnair 350 to Helsinki on my way to Tallinn and was disgusted at the behaviour by the couple currently in 2D & 2H.
Unfortunately our flight left from a gate accessed by bus so there really was no rush for priority boarding however as soon as boarding group 1 was called to get the bus to the aircraft an obese couple decided that they must be the only business class passengers on the flight and almost floored me whilst pushing their way to the front.
Having read numerous similar posts but never experienced it myself I could never truly relate however I am amazed that people feel that they can physically barge people out of their way with no consideration that others may be travelling in the same cabin/have higher status than themselves. Furious
Unfortunately our flight left from a gate accessed by bus so there really was no rush for priority boarding however as soon as boarding group 1 was called to get the bus to the aircraft an obese couple decided that they must be the only business class passengers on the flight and almost floored me whilst pushing their way to the front.
Having read numerous similar posts but never experienced it myself I could never truly relate however I am amazed that people feel that they can physically barge people out of their way with no consideration that others may be travelling in the same cabin/have higher status than themselves. Furious
#798
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Location: Leeds, UK
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#799
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
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It might indeed be the case Every time in my PEK-LHR commutes, there's always someone who will ask me (in Chinese) where they'll pass immigration, and invariably follow me through the fast track immigration lane. Same for the people who ask me how to get to T5C and later find me there, and follow me through the priority boarding lane.
Sadly, others get stuck in the rut of detecting racial stereotyping, which has nothing to do with it.
It's simply the inexperienced following the example of more confident players, or seeking assistance from them. And clearly synchronicity in background gives reassurance in many ways.
If mirroring is detected, the graceful thing to do is invite the less confident to join you in your progress, rather than sniggger at their behaviour as piggy-backers or sidlers.
#800
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ealing
Programs: Usual Amex Cent. GGL.
Posts: 1,484
Is this too tenuous to be DYKWIA?
Turned up at first check in at JFK and paused at the tensa to finish my e-corresponding. First was unmanned but crew was. Gentleman, wife and daughters walked past business checkin and gentleman proceeded to crew checkin. Wife remonstrated "this is first class". He gestured at the BAEC sign and said "Executive Club". I finished my e-stuff and queued behind them. 8 to be checked baggage items prominently festooned with silver tags. Whilst waiting to be processed I noticed that one of the ladies in Business checkin was free and just relocated there to check in.
Ps. Yes they all COULD have been gold and just choosing to use silver tags. And yes I did see their boarding passes later and they were all in the bubble.
Ps. Yes they all COULD have been gold and just choosing to use silver tags. And yes I did see their boarding passes later and they were all in the bubble.
#803
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: UK
Programs: Lemonia. Best Greek ever.
Posts: 2,271
I realise that there are many *-ists that we are not allowed to be any more. However, we are allowed to be fat-ist and height-ist.
#805
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
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#806
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: BA GGL, CR
Posts: 193
Or bringing said instruments as hand luggage.
#807
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 447
* in CPH many years ago, extremely loud and obnoxious finance-type in late twenties. The ones who give us a bad name. Spouting bile at a junior and giving enough details about a behind-the-wall deal that I could recognise, being peripherally involved. I found the guy quite quickly on LinkedIn, and when the convo ended, asked him cordially, "is this you? I generally have a no jerks policy. Shall we find out if your boss does too? If not, am sure that your compliance department will love you sharing public info about Project X."
#808
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,503
Anyway, the departing plane ended up on a remote stand. Well, the kerfuffle at the gate when we explained to him boarding had to be via bus. He demanded a car of his own to take him to the aircraft (not possible). I gave him the option of either getting on the bus first, or getting on last so that he'd be up the steps to the aircraft first. He went for the former but wanted a personal escort, and not without further complaint about his shoddy treatment. None of us fully understood his depth of fear in relation to what might happen to his cello (in a hard case). I'd seriously never witnessed a mother behave like that with her baby before, let alone a cello. But then if playing is his life and it's worth a lot, I should cut him some slack.
When checking the boarding passes at the gate I recall my colleague cracking a small joke with him about checking the other passport (he had two boarding passes, one was for, literally, Mr Cello). It didn't go down well.
#809
Join Date: Apr 2011
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I remember hearing an interview with a cellist on Radio 3. He'd booked a seat for his cello. He was sitting at the gate when he heard the announcement, "Could Mr Cello please make himself known to the gate agents?"
#810
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: UK
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Not really sure if this should be here, and at that who the DYKWIA is but it made me smile at the time..
I was row 1 CE on Sunday and had put my small rollaboard and laptop bag up in the overhead which was then closed, not by me I don't think but possibly by a crew member. Anyway, 1D comes onboard and opens the locker, quite obviously to put his bag in. Before he does this he is re-combobulating a bit whilst standing by his seat and in that time 2D jumps up and slots his bag in! Well, to say that 1D didn't take this too well would be something of an understatement and he proceeds to shout at the guy that he had "just opened it so it is obviously mine" and makes 2D take his bag out of the overhead bin and move it back. I was quite astounded to see 2D comply with a total absence of pugilistic intent, but then I may have spent too much time in GLA recently .
EDI-LHR completely full of angry media types at the moment what with the festival etc.!
I was row 1 CE on Sunday and had put my small rollaboard and laptop bag up in the overhead which was then closed, not by me I don't think but possibly by a crew member. Anyway, 1D comes onboard and opens the locker, quite obviously to put his bag in. Before he does this he is re-combobulating a bit whilst standing by his seat and in that time 2D jumps up and slots his bag in! Well, to say that 1D didn't take this too well would be something of an understatement and he proceeds to shout at the guy that he had "just opened it so it is obviously mine" and makes 2D take his bag out of the overhead bin and move it back. I was quite astounded to see 2D comply with a total absence of pugilistic intent, but then I may have spent too much time in GLA recently .
EDI-LHR completely full of angry media types at the moment what with the festival etc.!