DYKWIA - The 2017 thread
Mar 23, 2017, 8:48 am
#151
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Yes, absolutely rumbled. Here's another guitar-toting tale of a GCH... flying LAN domestic in Chile, at the front of the priority line, just as they began to board pax, I was told that I would have to wait until literally every other passenger on the plane had boarded before I take my guitar as carry-on. I was astounded - is that entitled DYKWIA behaviour?
Mar 23, 2017, 8:59 am
#152
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The thing that really gets to me is when you say your in the front row or in the exit row and they say 'it doesn't matter you still need to put it in the seat infont of you. It's just annoying but I've never been rude about it.
Mar 23, 2017, 5:28 pm
#153
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Tag or not my laptop bag goes under the seat in front. I have short legs and there's plenty of space for them and the bag.
Mar 24, 2017, 1:05 am
#154
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Or you show them your boarding pass which says you are travelling in First to which they respond with "it still has to go under the seat in front". I tend to just accept the tag now.
Mar 24, 2017, 4:29 am
#157
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Mar 24, 2017, 4:33 am
#158
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While I agree that in many cases the tags are a silly superfluity, I do have a lot of sympathy for the poor b staff who have been tasked with handing them out.
They're not paid a lot and have to put up with abuse from self-important nobodies who think they can speak to them any way they like just because they have a bit of shiny plastic in their pocket
The true "gentleman" would have graciously accepted the tag then quietly ignored it...
They're not paid a lot and have to put up with abuse from self-important nobodies who think they can speak to them any way they like just because they have a bit of shiny plastic in their pocket
The true "gentleman" would have graciously accepted the tag then quietly ignored it...
Mar 24, 2017, 4:41 am
#159
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While I agree that in many cases the tags are a silly superfluity, I do have a lot of sympathy for the poor b staff who have been tasked with handing them out.
They're not paid a lot and have to put up with abuse from self-important nobodies who think they can speak to them any way they like just because they have a bit of shiny plastic in their pocket
The true "gentleman" would have graciously accepted the tag then quietly ignored it...
They're not paid a lot and have to put up with abuse from self-important nobodies who think they can speak to them any way they like just because they have a bit of shiny plastic in their pocket
The true "gentleman" would have graciously accepted the tag then quietly ignored it...
They clearly have been told/bullied/cajoled into doing this and it's not fair to treat them so harshly. Complain to BA by all means but give the guys a break! It's no bother to just take it and then 'lose' it.
Mar 24, 2017, 4:41 am
#160
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A guitar takes up a lot of space too and similar to a double bass could be placed in the hold in a hard shell case. If the overheads are full where do you suggest the guitar should go? The guitar is definitely outside the size guidelines for handbaggage so why should BA inconvenience many who have complied with the guidelines to allow a guitar - outside the guidelines - to be carried in the cabin? Inconvenience one? Or many? The one who hasn't played by the rules?
Mar 24, 2017, 5:04 am
#161
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Originally Posted by Waterhorse 
taking a guitar onboard is not a right. Double Bass players have to buy an extra seat for their instruments if they want them upstairs.
taking a guitar onboard is not a right. Double Bass players have to buy an extra seat for their instruments if they want them upstairs.
Mar 24, 2017, 5:08 am
#162
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While I agree that in many cases the tags are a silly superfluity, I do have a lot of sympathy for the poor b staff who have been tasked with handing them out.
They're not paid a lot and have to put up with abuse from self-important nobodies who think they can speak to them any way they like just because they have a bit of shiny plastic in their pocket
The true "gentleman" would have graciously accepted the tag then quietly ignored it...
They're not paid a lot and have to put up with abuse from self-important nobodies who think they can speak to them any way they like just because they have a bit of shiny plastic in their pocket
The true "gentleman" would have graciously accepted the tag then quietly ignored it...
That said, if it's not exit or bulkhead (or longhaul J/F obviously) then my laptop bag goes under the seat (usually the blocked middle seat these days but hey). The arrogance of people who feel entitled to put all their bags, coat and suit jacket in the locker on busy flights just leaves me shaking my head...
Mar 24, 2017, 5:17 am
#163
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flying LAN domestic in Chile, at the front of the priority line, just as they began to board pax, I was told that I would have to wait until literally every other passenger on the plane had boarded before I take my guitar as carry-on. I was astounded - is that entitled DYKWIA behaviour?
Maybe after the other passengers in your cabin if you're in J would be a sensible compromise too but generally allowing your outside item if possible after everybody has had their allowed items seems reasonable to me.
I've previously bought a new carry on case after security and hence turned up to the gate with two big cases. BA ground and cabin crew were very understanding surprisingly (I expected to be told to check one immediately) and said I could board and they'd keep it at the front while boarding completed then it could stay if there was space otherwise they'd check it for me. They ended up putting a crew bag in the cockpit I believe and mine in the space that made, good service all round that day...
Mar 24, 2017, 5:41 am
#164
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A guitar takes up a lot of space too and similar to a double bass could be placed in the hold in a hard shell case. If the overheads are full where do you suggest the guitar should go? The guitar is definitely outside the size guidelines for handbaggage so why should BA inconvenience many who have complied with the guidelines to allow a guitar - outside the guidelines - to be carried in the cabin? Inconvenience one? Or many? The one who hasn't played by the rules?
Given that the T&Cs specifically state anything bigger needs to go in the hold, I'm surprised they allow guitars onboard at all these days; given they could be making a few extra quid by insisting they're checked.
Mar 24, 2017, 6:50 am
#165
Join Date: May 2013
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BA guidelines are pretty clear:
As are LATAM own guidelines.
So yes I would say there is an element of DYKWIA if you do not believe the rules apply to you....
Originally Posted by BA Website
You can take musical instruments (except double basses) on board as part of (but not in addition to) your free hand baggage allowance, i.e. the number, size and weight of bags you can take in the cabin.
If your musical instrument is larger than 56 x 45 x 25cm (22 x 18 x 10in): Please check it into the hold as part of your checked baggage allowance.
If your musical instrument is larger than 56 x 45 x 25cm (22 x 18 x 10in): Please check it into the hold as part of your checked baggage allowance.
Originally Posted by LATAM Website
Musical Instruments
Individual instruments or part of a band are accepted as checked luggage as long as they don’t exceed the dimensions limit established for the region.
It can be placed on the seat, if the following conditions are respected:
Individual instruments or part of a band are accepted as checked luggage as long as they don’t exceed the dimensions limit established for the region.
It can be placed on the seat, if the following conditions are respected:
- Previous reservation of more than one seat in the same fare and class of the passenger, with no right to another checked luggage allowance.
- Maximum allowed weight of 75Kg/165 lbs.