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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old Aug 8, 2017, 1:53 am
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Originally Posted by LilArchie
Hi all,
apologies for a silly question, but do I get tier points for the flights I do take, even if I skip the entire return leg of a booking?
Specifically, this is a LHR-HEL-TLL run. However, I need to get back to London earlier than booked, and was planning to do an Avios redemption from Tallinn straight to London instead.
The question is: I will get the tier points for LHR-HEL-TLL, i.e. 80+20, right?
You will get the tier points for the flights flown, but not for any you miss at the end.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 4:12 am
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FRA is coming out with reasonable fares, FRA-DOH-CMB-BLR return £1673 on a combo of QR and UL.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 4:37 am
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There seems to be a £1370 CPH - WAS/JFK/BOS fare which routes via HEL;
e.g. CPH-HEL-JFK-DCA at https://goo.gl/flights/o6v8. But I guess thats only 440 TP. I wonder if it is possible to squeeze more points in.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by GentleGiant
You will get the tier points for the flights flown, but not for any you miss at the end.
that's what I thought. Thank you!
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by linz36
There seems to be a £1370 CPH - WAS/JFK/BOS fare which routes via HEL;
e.g. CPH-HEL-JFK-DCA at https://goo.gl/flights/o6v8. But I guess thats only 440 TP. I wonder if it is possible to squeeze more points in.
You sure can - 680 TPs for ~£1,466 - £2.16 per TP (not great, but not bad to the East Coast).

Please note, no optimisation whatsoever done on the routing below - there will be better!
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
You sure can - 680 TPs for ~£1,466 - £2.16 per TP (not great, but not bad to the East Coast).
I have been playing with this, and availability is pretty good. Its 60 days advance purchase unfortunately.

I was trying to get it to route me via PHX, as PHX-LGA is > 2000 miles. But CPH-HEL-LHR-PHX-LGA(-DCA) does not work.

Why not? I don't see anything in the fare rules:

Code:
American (AA) INX6D4Z1 WAS to CPH
General notes

MIDWEEK BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES          I
 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT

Category 2: Day/Time restrictions

  FROM EUROPE -
    PERMITTED TUE THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
  TO EUROPE -
    PERMITTED MON THROUGH WED ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Category 4: Flight restrictions

  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897
        LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY
        ANY EI FLIGHT OPERATED BY EI
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX
        ANY A3 FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3
        ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AZ
        ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY CT
        ANY FB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB
        ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS
        ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU
        ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE
        ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO
        ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK
        ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP
        ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY NI
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY CL
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY EN
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WK
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2L
        ANY F7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY F7
        ANY JU FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU
        ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF
        ANY AF FLIGHT OPERATED BY A5.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA.
  AND
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897
        LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
        ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
        ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG
        ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HE
        ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4T
        ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
        ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
        ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY I2
        ANY 4T FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4T
        ANY HG FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG
        ANY VY FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY.
  AND
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN NORTH AMERICA
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA.
  AND
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
        ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB.

Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions

  RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 60 DAYS
  BEFORE DEPARTURE.
  TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
  RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
  WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
         NOTE -
          DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST
          BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT
          REMARK.
          THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.

Category 6: Minimum stay requirements

  TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
  EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Category 7: Maximum stay requirements

  TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
  MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

Category 8: Stopover restrictions

  STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

Category 9: Transfer restrictions

  2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
      1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH
       DIRECTION
      NONE PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH
       DIRECTION
      2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
  AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
            1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH
             DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/
             SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO
             IN EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA
             IN EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII
             IN EACH DIRECTION
            2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION
          FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
           EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
           COMPONENT.

Category 10: Combinability

   APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
   MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
    FARES FROM/TO NORTH AMERICA. VALIDATE ALL FARE
    COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
    EXCEPT AS PROVIDED ABOVE END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT
    PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE
    COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
    END-ON-END NOTE -
      ADDONS PERMITTED
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE NOT FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY WITHIN
     EUROPE
  END-ON-END
    END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH INTERNATIONAL
    FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
    PERMITTED.
     END-ON-END NOTE -
       ADDONS PERMITTED
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA/BA/IB/AY
  OPEN JAWS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
     A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
     PERMITTED.
     MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
     MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/AY IN
      ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      AATBAR  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA2BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA3BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
  ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
     A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
     PERMITTED.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB/AY IN
      ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      AATBAR  - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
      FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA
      FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
      IN TARIFF
      FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA2BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      SA3BAR  - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
  OPEN JAWS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
     A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
     PERMITTED.
     MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
     MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY
      RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
  ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
    -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
    -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
     A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE BREAK POINTS PERMITTED.
   PROVIDED -
     COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY
      RULE IN TARIFF
      IPRA    - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
                ATLANTIC
      IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
                ATLANTIC.
 NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT-
        FLL-MIA  OAK-SFO  OAK-SJC  SFO-SJC  LAX-ONT  BUR-LAX
        LAX-LGB  LAX-SNA  BUR-ONT  LGB-ONT  ONT-SNA  BUR-LGB
        ORF-PHF  BUR-SNA  LGB-SNA  EWR-NYC  BWI-WAS

Category 12: Surcharges

  IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
  OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
  OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
  OR - INE UNDER 02.
  OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
    THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON.
         NOTE -
          SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS
          NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
    AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON
    WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
    MEXICO.
    AND - THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON.
         NOTE -
          YR FEE MAY APPLY
  OTHERWISE
    AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON
    WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
    MEXICO.
    AND - ORIGINATING DENMARK -
      A SURCHARGE OF EUR 121.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO
      THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.

Category 15: Sales restrictions

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 06SEP 17.

Category 15: Sales restrictions

  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
  TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED
  BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS
  NOT PERMITTED.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
       TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
       ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET
       VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
       TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
       ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET
       VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
  OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
       TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE
       ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION OF TICKET
       VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.

Category 16: Penalties

  CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
        REFUND.
         NOTE -
          IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE
           PASSENGER/OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/
           THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY BE WAIVED OR
           THE TICKET REFUNDED.
          VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAIL
          ------------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
          THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
          PRICING UNIT APPLIES.
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
          REFUNDABLE FARE
          1- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY
          2- THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          WAIVER ALSO APPLIES FOR TRAVELING COMPANION.
          NO CHD DISCOUNT / INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT - 10 PCT.
          -----
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION AND PERSON.
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
          MODIFICATION.
          CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
          ORIGINAL TICKET.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
          ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
          CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
          APPLY.
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WILL APPLY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE
          ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
          WILL BE COLLECTED -AND- THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE
          APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
           CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND THERE IS NO REFUND  HOWEVE
          R THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE P
          ASSENGER IN THE FORM OF A NON-REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VO
          UCHER WHICH MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF
           A TICKET VALID FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA
          ONLY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
          THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED.
          --------------------------------------------------
                     CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
          WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          -----
          WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
          COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
          CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
          REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          --------------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
          OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E.  ADVANCE
          RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
          STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY  ETC.

Category 17: HIP exceptions

  THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
  CONNECTIONS.
  AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
        FOR STOPOVERS.

Category 18: Endorsements

  THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
  NON/REF RESTRICTIONS APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

Category 19: Discounts

  ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
    MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
      BY ADULT
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
         FARE.
             TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
         MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
           COMPARTMENT BY ADULT
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
         THE FARE.
             TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
         MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
           COMPARTMENT BY ADULT
  OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
         FARE.
         NOTE -
          UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
          ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
          OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.

Category 20: Tour Discounts

         NOTE -
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
          THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
          AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.

Category 21: Agent Discounts

         NOTE -
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
          THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
          AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.

Category 22: Other Discounts

  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO
  SPECIFIC AGENTS.
  FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
  AGENTS.
  PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100
    PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT.
         NOTE -
          APPLICATION---
          FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE
          EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS.
  SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT.
         NOTE -
          RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY

Category 31: Voluntary changes

  IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
   BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
    THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
     CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
     COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
       PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
       1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
       2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
       BE DOMESTIC
       3. AA/AY/BA/IB ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
       4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
       5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
       DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
      OR -
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
       PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
       1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
       BE DOMESTIC
       2. AA/AY/BA/IB ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
       3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
       OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
   THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA VOUCHER
   ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
  OR -
   AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
    CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
    THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
     CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
     COMPONENTS - INFANT W/O SEAT DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
      REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
       PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
       1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
       BE DOMESTIC
       2. FULLY FLOWN FARE MAY BE REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT-
       PROVIDED ONE POINT ON PREVIOUS TKT IS RETAINED
       3. AA/AY/BA/IB ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
       4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
       5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
       DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
   THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA VOUCHER
   ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.

Category 33: Voluntary cancellations

  REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16

Category 50: Application

FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS TRANSATLANTIC FARES
 APPLICATION
   AREA
     THESE FARES APPLY
     FROM EUROPE TO THE UNITED STATES.
   CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
   TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
     FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
     ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
   THE TICKET IS INVALID IF FLIGHT COUPONS ARE NOT
   USED IN SEQUENCE.
   FARE DOES NOT APPLY FOR REFUND CALCULATION AFTER
   TRAVEL AT A HIGHER FARE
   PASSENGER EXPENCES NOT ABSORBED BY CARRIER
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
   THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
   ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
   FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
   THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
   AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
   CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
   LEVEL- ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CAPACITY CONTROL.

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Old Aug 8, 2017, 7:53 am
  #2812  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
Originally Posted by linz36
I have been playing with this, and availability is pretty good. Its 60 days advance purchase unfortunately.

I was trying to get it to route me via PHX, as PHX-LGA is > 2000 miles. But CPH-HEL-LHR-PHX-LGA(-DCA) does not work.

Why not? I don't see anything in the fare rules:
That routing will be above MPM:

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Fare Routing Search:
Departing CPH on 10/10/17 for DCA
Fare basis code INX6D4Z1
Flying AA
Routing via North Atlantic

    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1   INX6D4Z1       I‡R  1379.00        T06SE 60/3  7/12M AT01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-CPH TO-WAS    CXR-AA    TVL-10OCT17  RULE-J676 IPRA/1
FARE BASIS-INX6D4Z1          SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BX      RT-BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION
DKK     8707   MPM  E05AUG17 D-INFINITY   FC-INX6D4Z1  FN-6V   
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 04AUG17/0616  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
PUBLISHED RTG CPH-WAS/AA      EF-05AUG17 DIS-INDEF
 
/VIA THE ATLANTIC/ MPM 4870
MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES BETWEEN ORIGIN AND DESTINATION
 MILEAGE SYSTEM APPLIES ORIGIN TO DESTINATION
       TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 550 MILES APPLIES
       WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA DFW AND/OR CHI AND/OR MIA
       TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 550 MILES APPLIES
       WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA CLT OR PHL
       TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 550 MILES APPLIES
       WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA CHI AND/OR DFW AND/OR RDU AND/OR 
       MIA AND/OR CLT
       TICKETED POINT DEDUCTION OF 705 MILES APPLIES
       WHEN TRAVEL IS VIA SUB AREA 21
.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 7:58 am
  #2813  
 
Join Date: May 2015
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 158
Ah excellent, thank you.

I should maybe get myself an expertflyer subscription... Lets see if there is a chance to optimise this further.

edit:
no chance. CPH-HEL-LHR-BOS-JFK-DCA return (40+80+140+40+40)*2 = 680 TP for £1460 = 2.15 £/TP.

Now do I want to fly this?

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Old Aug 8, 2017, 8:24 am
  #2814  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Arizona
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Posts: 3,011
Originally Posted by linz36
Ah excellent, thank you.

I should maybe get myself an expertflyer subscription... Lets see if there is a chance to optimise this further.

edit:
no chance. CPH-HEL-LHR-BOS-JFK-DCA return (40+80+140+40+40)*2 = 680 TP for £1460 = 2.15 £/TP.

Now do I want to fly this?
There's also no PHX-LGA nonstop... you'd need to do JFK and then a taxi to LGA or more conveniently connect via PHL.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 11:40 am
  #2815  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Taif, KSA
Programs: BA GGL, HH Diamond
Posts: 1,907
I find myself potentially having 21-24th November available for a trip in the US.

Been looking for some trips but can't find anything myself that's a good price. I arrive into PHX at 0808 on 21st November and have an avios ticket booked for PHX-LAS dep 1130 arr1151 so can depart from either PHX or LAS.

I then have a flight booked LAS-LAX on 24th November dep2037 arr2157 for a flight out from LAX the following am.

If anyone knows of any routings I could take during those times/dates or can help me out I'd appreciate it. 400-500TP would be nice but in the grand scheme I'm not too bothered.

Any destination is fine with me also.

Thanks

Jamie
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 2:21 pm
  #2816  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: RTM
Programs: DiamondClub (rip), Currently an Alliance Treble Champion (BA, A3, AZ)
Posts: 1,786
Originally Posted by Jamier45
I find myself potentially having 21-24th November available for a trip in the US.

Been looking for some trips but can't find anything myself that's a good price. I arrive into PHX at 0808 on 21st November and have an avios ticket booked for PHX-LAS dep 1130 arr1151 so can depart from either PHX or LAS.

I then have a flight booked LAS-LAX on 24th November dep2037 arr2157 for a flight out from LAX the following am.

If anyone knows of any routings I could take during those times/dates or can help me out I'd appreciate it. 400-500TP would be nice but in the grand scheme I'm not too bothered.

Any destination is fine with me also.

Thanks

Jamie
You could have a lot of fun doing AMS-BKK for <1500 EUR, usually possible to route it via SIN and HKG. You might need a week or two to recover from a Lang Kwai Fong, Soi Cowboy and Duxton Hill on the bounce though

BZE (Belize) is also available for the same price.

(edit - sorry, not US, but hey..)
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 3:28 pm
  #2817  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kent / Hertfordshire / London
Programs: BA Silver (clawing back to Gold!), Honours Gold, IHG Platinum, MLife Gold, Caesars Diamond
Posts: 137
Hi All

Anyone got any creative ideas for the below?

If anything things seem to have gone up a little. Looking to leave dublin on the 21st (give or take day) and come back on the 30th/31st/1st (not bothered - whichever is cheapest). Doesn't have to be ex-dub - although thats one of the easier positioning spots.

I'd like if possible to get the 321T in there and hopefully the AA 777 service to HNL (for lay flat purposes).

Originally Posted by tjeuk
Hi All

Looking at a TP Holiday over Christmas/NY. Destination (surprise surprise) would be HNL, I've found things ex-DUB 21/12 to 03/01 DUB LHR JFK LAX HNL and back for €1970. Is that as good as it's likely to get, or am I missing anything?

Any pointers appreciated.

Cheers
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 9:28 pm
  #2818  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beijing
Programs: SK EBG, BAEC Gold
Posts: 932
Originally Posted by GandT
... Next February I am planning the same but then adding in a DEL-KUl-SYD-PER vv for an extra £1K!
Originally Posted by 20Rothmans
...
As the DEL and TPE (swine of a layover) prices aren't discounted, I'll keep my powder dry for a little longer. PEK is £700 and being watched too.
Originally Posted by Protocol7
Many thanks for the BKK TP runs tips, waiting for the next MH sale seems the best option.
Never long to wait it seems for a MH sale ex-Thailand ... New fares just appeared today - nothing as low as last year, but many destinations, coming out at between 1.20 GBP/TP and 2 GBP/TP (based on prices given using Google Flights search), with BKK-PEK-BKK return pricing at 430GBP. Don't forget that will require a visa - unless you use for example some of the Avios earned to nest a trip to HKG (e.g. BKK-KUL-PEK//PEK-HKG-PEK//PEK-KUL-BKK).

I have only checked a few sets of fare rules but the key points for those I have looked at are:

Code:
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
  TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 2
  DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
  TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 1
  MONTH AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
...
Category 14: Travel restrictions
  VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 09AUG 17 AND ON/
  BEFORE 31MAR 18.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
  RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE AND TICKETS ISSUED ON/AFTER
  09AUG 17 AND ON/BEFORE 23AUG 17.
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Old Aug 9, 2017, 7:35 am
  #2819  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: BA Gold, TAP Gold
Posts: 131
That looks very nice, thanks. Same fare for BKK-PVG-BKK
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Old Aug 9, 2017, 12:32 pm
  #2820  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Seattle
Posts: 75
Thanks lorcancoyle and Calchas.

Originally Posted by lorcancoyle
I'm with Calchas on this. Realistically can't get a flight before 8.30pm (unless gambling on a nice tailwind and on-time departure). Could do Dublin as well as domestic, as either way you won't have passport control, but domestic probably safer. Bigger risk is Sunday morning, if departing T5 and no checked baggage you'd have benefit of walking off domestic and into departures area fairly quickly, but landing T5 and having to get to T4 (airside transit?) adds risk.
If you have a checked bag I'd say it's impossible as need to either
- drop it in left luggage before catching onward flight on Saturday (if T5 can't do airside transit, if you go to T4 first you're going to really struggle to get a flight)
- collect from baggage claim and recheck on Saturday, then do same again Sunday
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