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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive

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Old Jul 2, 2017, 5:51 am
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When are you heading there?
Haven't booked a ticket. Was tempted to join nufnuf77 and others, but availability dried up for the flights I wanted when I was able to book - so that would be 12 Aug for CAI. If availability doesn't came back soon, then I'll post pone it till my next BA year (which starts 8th Dec).
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by megaloman
Haven't booked a ticket. Was tempted to join nufnuf77 and others, but availability dried up for the flights I wanted when I was able to book - so that would be 12 Aug for CAI. If availability doesn't came back soon, then I'll post pone it till my next BA year (which starts 8th Dec).
I'm positioning to CAI on 22nd August and back 23rd. Then join charlie and nufnuf formflight to JFK from HEL on 18th November.
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 6:50 am
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Hi all,
I need to be in NYC the evening of Mon 21st August. Will prob fly in to JFK or EWR on Sunday 20th and return to LHR Tues 22nd. Aside from the evening of the 21st I have no other commitments.
Any ideas for a TP run?
Thanks!
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 6:52 am
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I'm trying to book an INCEU60 fare found on ITA Matrix but BA Gold Line can't reproduce the fare. It's MXP-LHR-PVG-CTU-HKG-LHR-PSA. The only difference I could determine was that the BA system was breaking the journey at PVG (and putting PVG-CTU as a different fare) whereas ITA broke it at CTU and had just the two INCEU60 fares.
Is there any way they can force PVG-CTU into the same fare? The call centre lady couldn't.

I could get a similar price to ITA using bookwithmatrix and FlightNetwork but would also want to upgrade the LHR-PVG leg with Avios, so not sure that would be possible?
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by qrpory
I'm trying to book an INCEU60 fare found on ITA Matrix but BA Gold Line can't reproduce the fare. It's MXP-LHR-PVG-CTU-HKG-LHR-PSA. The only difference I could determine was that the BA system was breaking the journey at PVG (and putting PVG-CTU as a different fare) whereas ITA broke it at CTU and had just the two INCEU60 fares.
Is there any way they can force PVG-CTU into the same fare? The call centre lady couldn't.

I could get a similar price to ITA using bookwithmatrix and FlightNetwork but would also want to upgrade the LHR-PVG leg with Avios, so not sure that would be possible?
HUACA
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by majoreyeswater
Hi all,
I need to be in NYC the evening of Mon 21st August. Will prob fly in to JFK or EWR on Sunday 20th and return to LHR Tues 22nd. Aside from the evening of the 21st I have no other commitments.
Any ideas for a TP run?
Thanks!
You can nest NYC-ORD and ORD-NYC tickets (via CLT/WAS each way) and pick up some points at about £2/each. Not the best, but doable.
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
HUACA
OK, thanks. wondered if that would be the case although she did seem to have a good attempt. So there should be an option for them to change the journey break?
Where's Newcastle when you need them!?!?
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by ubiest
Additional options in addition to the ARN-SIN on QR:

The well known exGER on UL FRA/MUC - DOH - CMB - CGK
840 TPs for 1600-1700 EUR. QR and UL metal.

And this mega run
FRA/MUC - DOH - CMB - MLE on QR/UL for 1380 EUR 640 TPs
plus MLE - HKG - DPS for 993 GBP all on CX and 560 TPs discussed here
Thanks!

We need 660 to get back to Gold by February. If I can get close that would be great.

I believe DPS is the code, so will do various searches, but so far am not pulling anything of interest up. Mostly via LHR and HKG and via DOH is £3k+!

Any tips or help would be appreciated as this part of the world is new to me.

Thank you
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 9:56 am
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Good old AA have just changed October's "just for the sake of it" TP run.




American 1101 Los Angeles SAT 28OCT 4:50 PM Las Vegas 6:12 PM
American 453 Las Vegas SAT 28OCT 7:45 PM Phoenix 8:56 PM
American 2026 Phoenix SAT 28OCT 9:50 PM Philadelphia 5:22 AM
American 2001 Philadelphia SUN 29OCT 8:45 AM Raleigh Durham 10:10AM
American 657 Raleigh Durham SUN 29OCT 11:20 AM Charlottem12:17 PM
American 2005 Charlotte SUN 29OCT 1:04 PM Orlando 2:42 PM
American 1061 Orlando SUN 29OCT 3:37 PM Miami 4:48 PM
American 959 Miami SUN 29OCT 5:55 PM Panama City PA 8:06 PM
American 1474 Panama City PA MON 30OCT 3:15 PM Miami 7:29 PM
American 2666 Miami MON 30OCT 10:30 PM Orlando 11:37 PM
American 2050 Orlando TUE 31OCT 5:15 AM Charlotte 6:52 AM
American 2093 Charlotte TUE 31OCT 9:35 AM Philadelphia 11:05 AM
American 659 Philadelphia TUE 31OCT 2:05 PM Phoenix 4:01 PM
American 453 Phoenix TUE 31OCT 5:05 PM Las Vegas 6:15 PM
American 1101 Las Vegas TUE 31OCT 6:53 PM Los Angeles 8:13 PM

to

AA 1032 4:50pm-6:08pm LAX-LAS
AA 1754 7:45pm-8:53pm LAS-PHX
AA 2026 10:50pm-6:16AM PHX-PHL
AA 2009 8:45am-10:16am PHL-RDU
AA 1927 11:09am-12:15pm RDU-CLT
AA 691 1:00pm-2:41pm CLT-MCO
AA 56 3:38pm-4:45pm MCO-MIA
AA 959 5:45pm-7:59pm MIA-PTY
AA 981 1:30pm-5:43pm PTY-MIA
AA 2039 7:44pm-8:57pm MIA-MCO
AA 1974 6:29am-8:10am MCO-CLT
AA 1839 9:26am-11:04am CLT-PHL
AA 695 1:30pm-3:32pm PHL-PHX
AA 636 5:10pm-6:15pm PHX-LAS
AA 84 6:53pm-8:23pm LAS-LAX

Lost my short overnight in MCO so may have to get a hotel now unless I can get AA to change the flights back as they're still showing on AA.com and are cheaper than the earlier ones.

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Old Jul 2, 2017, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
That would only get 80 points, unless you suggest she does it twice?
Its 80 points per leg in CE so there and back would be 2x80=160 I think
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Hydebear
Its 80 points per leg in CE so there and back would be 2x80=160 I think
You're quite correct, whoops. I didn't realize CTA was shorthaul+
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
You're quite correct, whoops. I didn't realize CTA was shorthaul+
And quite lovely too!
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Old Jul 2, 2017, 5:00 pm
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I am very sorry if I am asking this in the wrong area.

There used to be good fares to Tallin from UK. Is there a knack to booking them? I can't seem to find them on BA at all?

Thank you.
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I am very sorry if I am asking this in the wrong area.

There used to be good fares to Tallin from UK. Is there a knack to booking them? I can't seem to find them on BA at all?

Thank you.
Sadly the Tallinn deal is no longer available.
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 4:00 pm
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In case folks haven't noticed, LGW-MLA CE rtn is £239 for 160 TPs atm.

BA ILV2K fare

PERMITTED 07 NOV THROUGH 19 MAR ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 2 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 11 JUL 17.
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
         NOTE -
          FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
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          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
          TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
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          WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
          REFUNDABLE FARES
          1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
          2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
          CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
          COMPONENTS.
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          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
          THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
          IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
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          REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
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          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
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          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
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          -------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
          FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
          AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
          CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
          REFUND.
          FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
          ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
          THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          ORIGINAL.
          PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
          USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE GBP 100.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
          ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
          REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
          AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
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          CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
          ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
          INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
          CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
          MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
          RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
          TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
          OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
          REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
           --- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
          A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
          FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
          TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
          AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
          CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
          FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
          BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
          THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
          BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
          COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
          APPLIED.
          2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
          TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
          MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
          BEING APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
          DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
          CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
          RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
          CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
          PERMITTED.
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          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.

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