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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - Ł1,033, MIA - Ł1,133, ATL - Ł1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - Ł1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - Ł1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR Ł0.90/TP Ł400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV Ł1.33/TP Ł583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB Ł1.33/TP Ł346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG Ł1.65/TP Ł593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL Ł1.81/TP Ł72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN Ł1.85/TP Ł444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV Ł1.89/TP Ł377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV Ł1.91/TP Ł765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG Ł2.10/TP Ł420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV Ł2.56/TP Ł410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan Ł1.50/TP Ł960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is Ł40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY Ł2.50/TP Ł203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY Ł2.08/TP Ł250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV Ł1.43/TP Ł172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb Ł0.99/TP Ł356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN Ł1.10/TP Ł44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn Ł80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov Ł0.85/TP Ł307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under Ł500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~Ł235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:24 am
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Well just back from Vegas and had a TP run go horribly wrong and will be a lowly Silver come June.
I had booked LAS-LAX-SJO return. First flight of the day to LAX at 8:45am was canceled at boarding. Called AA and as there was no way of getting me to LAX before the second leg I canceled for a refund.

To make matters worse to top up the 20 TP that I also needed I had taken a Y return to LAX the day before costing $112. So that was wasted.

I posted on the AA board to ask if I was fobbed off by the agent when I asked if I could just pay for the flights and collect the miles, to which he said if I was posting miles to AAdvantage then yes, but not to BAEC, to be met with more Apologists than ever I have seen on here.

Apparently they think its quite alright for AA to cancel a flight for technical reasons and offer no recompense other than a full refund or a flight to first port of call in the evening. Makes you appreciate that in the UK airlines have to be more proactive when they mess up or its going to cost them money, where in the US there is no major reason to pull their finger out.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
Well just back from Vegas and had a TP run go horribly wrong and will be a lowly Silver come June.
I had booked LAS-LAX-SJO return. First flight of the day to LAX at 8:45am was canceled at boarding. Called AA and as there was no way of getting me to LAX before the second leg I canceled for a refund.

To make matters worse to top up the 20 TP that I also needed I had taken a Y return to LAX the day before costing $112. So that was wasted.

I posted on the AA board to ask if I was fobbed off by the agent when I asked if I could just pay for the flights and collect the miles, to which he said if I was posting miles to AAdvantage then yes, but not to BAEC, to be met with more Apologists than ever I have seen on here.

Apparently they think its quite alright for AA to cancel a flight for technical reasons and offer no recompense other than a full refund or a flight to first port of call in the evening. Makes you appreciate that in the UK airlines have to be more proactive when they mess up or its going to cost them money, where in the US there is no major reason to pull their finger out.
Was your positioning flight and the run on the same booking / PNR or seperate tickets?
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
Well just back from Vegas and had a TP run go horribly wrong and will be a lowly Silver come June.
I had booked LAS-LAX-SJO return. First flight of the day to LAX at 8:45am was canceled at boarding. Called AA and as there was no way of getting me to LAX before the second leg I canceled for a refund.

To make matters worse to top up the 20 TP that I also needed I had taken a Y return to LAX the day before costing $112. So that was wasted.

I posted on the AA board to ask if I was fobbed off by the agent when I asked if I could just pay for the flights and collect the miles, to which he said if I was posting miles to AAdvantage then yes, but not to BAEC, to be met with more Apologists than ever I have seen on here.

Apparently they think its quite alright for AA to cancel a flight for technical reasons and offer no recompense other than a full refund or a flight to first port of call in the evening. Makes you appreciate that in the UK airlines have to be more proactive when they mess up or its going to cost them money, where in the US there is no major reason to pull their finger out.
AA would have rebooked you to SJO. Likely on a different routing, but they would have done it. Then you could have claimed the original routing credit (i.e. the Avios and TPs you would have gotten for your original booking if your net route earns less) from BA.

Don't really see why you cancelled this, unless time was a huge constraint?
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
AA would have rebooked you to SJO. Likely on a different routing, but they would have done it. Then you could have claimed the original routing credit (i.e. the Avios and TPs you would have gotten for your original booking if your net route earns less) from BA.

Don't really see why you cancelled this, unless time was a huge constraint?
I canceled because AA were unable to get me on 3 legs (which is the amount I needed) to SJO on that day which is when it had to be done.
I knew about ORC and we tried to work it out on the phone. I even told the agent I was on a MR and he could send me anywhere he liked as long as I was back by 9pm.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:48 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
I canceled because AA were unable to get me on 3 legs (which is the amount I needed) to SJO on that day which is when it had to be done
You should have taken any re-route even if fewer legs, and claimed for ORC (original routing credit) which you would have got.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by cgtechuk
Was your positioning flight and the run on the same booking / PNR or seperate tickets?
No the flight the day before was a stand alone. I knew I would be 20TP's short by doing the next days SJO run so I booked a Y to LAX from LAS for the day before
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
I canceled because AA were unable to get me on 3 legs (which is the amount I needed) to SJO on that day which is when it had to be done.
I knew about ORC and we tried to work it out on the phone. I even told the agent I was on a MR and he could send me anywhere he liked as long as I was back by 9pm.
Ahh ok this makes sense in that case, I wasnt sure whether it was a time thing.

i became unstuck on my Panama run last year in DCA and what a crap airport to be stuck at lol, I ended up getting rebooked on IRROPS to LAX in Full F so ended up with more avios in the end anyway but I know they do offer rebooks and are actually pretty flexible with them, In my case I ended up getting a better flight in a higher ticket class
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
I canceled because AA were unable to get me on 3 legs (which is the amount I needed) to SJO on that day which is when it had to be done.
I knew about ORC and we tried to work it out on the phone. I even told the agent I was on a MR and he could send me anywhere he liked as long as I was back by 9pm.
Unfortunately in your case the fact that AA couldn't reroute you on 3 legs doesn't matter. During IRROPS you are eligible for ORC based on your original ticketed itinerary, they can re-route you direct and you still claim the original TP/Avios.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
You should have taken any re-route even if fewer legs, and claimed for ORC (original routing credit) which you would have got.
Yes that's what I thought as well but the agent said that it didn't work that way.
I would have to complete 3 legs to get all the points/TP's. That's why I told him to send me anywhere and back.
I had to trust what he said, I didn't want to chance going with what I thought was right and finding out later I was wrong.

Also that morning while writing down the flight numbers for my wife before I left I noticed that the LAX-SJO and SJO-LAX were the same flight number (schoolboy error) and was in 2 minds whether it counted as one flight with a stop, or 2 different flights. I had read up on this after finding out and there seemed to be a lot of ifs or buts about it. I did have separate BP's for these legs

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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
Yes that's what I thought as well but the agent said that it didn't work that way.
I would have to complete 3 legs to get all the points/TP's. That's why I told him to send me anywhere and back.
I had to trust what he said, I didn't want to chance going with what I thought was right and finding out later I was wrong.
Why would the aa agent have a clue about BAEC ORC?
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
Yes that's what I thought as well but the agent said that it didn't work that way.
I would have to complete 3 legs to get all the points/TP's. That's why I told him to send me anywhere and back.
I had to trust what he said, I didn't want to chance going with what I thought was right and finding out later I was wrong.
The AA agents will not know (in detail) how the BAEC system works.

I know someone who had a 14 sector journey, got IRROPed early on, then it ended up being 8 sectors, and obtained full ORC. Needless to say they were very happy
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
Yes that's what I thought as well but the agent said that it didn't work that way.
I would have to complete 3 legs to get all the points/TP's. That's why I told him to send me anywhere and back.
I had to trust what he said, I didn't want to chance going with what I thought was right and finding out later I was wrong.
He may have been right; I don't know exactly how AA deal with ORC, if they do at all. Unfortunately for you, you were talking to the wrong person. Whilst that information may well be correct for crediting to AAdvantage, it is incorrect for crediting to BAEC; though understandably the agent wouldn't have known that.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by dakaix
Unfortunately in your case the fact that AA couldn't reroute you on 3 legs doesn't matter. During IRROPS you are eligible for ORC based on your original ticketed itinerary, they can re-route you direct and you still claim the original TP/Avios.
But I would still have had to go to SJO right?

He couldn't get me there and back that day.

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Old Apr 24, 2017, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Why would the aa agent have a clue about BAEC ORC?
Because he fully understood the term, they must use it on the AAdvantage scheme as well.
Anyway water under the bridge now.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 7:11 am
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Originally Posted by moneypooraviosrich
Because he fully understood the term, they must use it on the AAdvantage scheme as well.
I very much doubt he did understand the detail of ORC.

EDIT: just to add, here is the FT guide to ORC https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...r-s-guide.html
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