Jan 2, 2017, 6:09 pm
Last edit by: EsherFlyer
** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
- from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
- froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
- from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 master thread
Mar 9, 2017, 3:56 am
#799
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Mar 9, 2017, 9:01 am
#801
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Posts: 89
So..........
I am 330 TP points way from reaching the holy land which is BA Gold in my membership by my calculations. Any suggestions for someone who is UK based to do a TP run, flexible on dates and don't really mind where I end up going ? I have seen the TLL deals but I cant get them to price right for me ?
Cheers for any tips......
I am 330 TP points way from reaching the holy land which is BA Gold in my membership by my calculations. Any suggestions for someone who is UK based to do a TP run, flexible on dates and don't really mind where I end up going ? I have seen the TLL deals but I cant get them to price right for me ?
Cheers for any tips......
Mar 9, 2017, 9:16 am
#802
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BA website has weekend deals for 231 GBP - 200 TP to TLL
Mar 9, 2017, 9:43 am
#803
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This is why I am asking whether someone has any experience in upgrading an AA operated sector of a 125 paper ticket itinerary.
As far as I understand my only chance would be if they do cash upgrades at the airport on the day of departure...is this correct?
As far as I understand my only chance would be if they do cash upgrades at the airport on the day of departure...is this correct?
Mar 10, 2017, 3:10 am
#804
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: London
Programs: Newbie BA Gold
Posts: 570
Hi,
Have a couple of questions please. I'm looking at AMS-HKG-KHH in J which can be booked on CX website for 1848eur pretty much anytime in Dec.
1) Is this a good price?
2) At the bottom during booking it says MPC points earned are 210 and miles are 15432. Do I ignore these and enter BAEC number somewhere and get 360 TP instead?
3) AMS-HKG leaves at 1245. There are two LHR-AMS flights before that arriving at 0905 and 1045. Is it safe to get the one arriving at 0905 and fall back on the latter one if things go south?
Thanks!
Have a couple of questions please. I'm looking at AMS-HKG-KHH in J which can be booked on CX website for 1848eur pretty much anytime in Dec.
1) Is this a good price?
2) At the bottom during booking it says MPC points earned are 210 and miles are 15432. Do I ignore these and enter BAEC number somewhere and get 360 TP instead?
3) AMS-HKG leaves at 1245. There are two LHR-AMS flights before that arriving at 0905 and 1045. Is it safe to get the one arriving at 0905 and fall back on the latter one if things go south?
Thanks!
Last edited by benjai; Mar 10, 2017 at 3:16 am
Mar 10, 2017, 3:36 am
#805
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 175
Hi,
Have a couple of questions please. I'm looking at AMS-HKG-KHH in J which can be booked on CX website for 1848eur pretty much anytime in Dec.
1) Is this a good price?
2) At the bottom during booking it says MPC points earned are 210 and miles are 15432. Do I ignore these and enter BAEC number somewhere and get 360 TP instead?
3) AMS-HKG leaves at 1245. There are two LHR-AMS flights before that arriving at 0905 and 1045. Is it safe to get the one arriving at 0905 and fall back on the latter one if things go south?
Thanks!
Have a couple of questions please. I'm looking at AMS-HKG-KHH in J which can be booked on CX website for 1848eur pretty much anytime in Dec.
1) Is this a good price?
2) At the bottom during booking it says MPC points earned are 210 and miles are 15432. Do I ignore these and enter BAEC number somewhere and get 360 TP instead?
3) AMS-HKG leaves at 1245. There are two LHR-AMS flights before that arriving at 0905 and 1045. Is it safe to get the one arriving at 0905 and fall back on the latter one if things go south?
Thanks!
2)The calculation on the CX website is for MPC only. 360 TPs calculation is correct.
3) The 0905 should be fine, unless there is fog and there are rolling delays. If you want to be sure then fly to AMS the day/night before.
Mar 10, 2017, 3:41 am
#806
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TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
Mar 10, 2017, 4:03 am
#807
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 175
Yes, on this point AMS-BKK routed as say AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS with a stopover in HKG would be ~£1350 in J and more TPs. No need to stop in BKK (see min stay below, you can just pass through BKK on a same day connection), and obviously whilst you are on your stopover in HKG you can do your trip to KHH booked with avios.
HKG-KHH can also be booked by cash in economy, as it is quite a short hop.
My wife wouldn't be happy if I propose this routing though.
Mar 10, 2017, 4:16 am
#808
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: London
Programs: Newbie BA Gold
Posts: 570
Yes, I completely forgot that ex-AMS fare. The positioning flight can be done the day before as B2B, which should minimise risk (as long as the connection time between AMS-LHR and LHR-KUL is less than 24hrs)
HKG-KHH can also be booked by cash in economy, as it is quite a short hop.
My wife wouldn't be happy if I propose this routing though.
HKG-KHH can also be booked by cash in economy, as it is quite a short hop.
My wife wouldn't be happy if I propose this routing though.
Haha thanks KARFA and nkvuong for great suggestions. I would prefer to have a brief layover in HKG on the way back (ie KHH-HKG am, then pm back to EU) so routing via PEK is not feasible.
My initial plan is actually this: wife and child go from LHR to KHH early dec. I meed them out there mid Dec. Then all back together (via HKG) late dec.
Routing via BKK would probably be a struggle...especially only for a 140 TP gain (I think).
Is CX J better than BA J? Going out in summer on BA so would be nice to try CX as well.
I know its safer to have a night in AMS first, but is it a big risk to go first thing in the morning if there is a spare backup flight to switch to? I don't think my wife is comfortable travelling out for a night with our son by herself and it seems a waste for me to escort them to AMS just for a night.
The KHH-HKG leg ideally needs to be in business (lots and lots of luggage). How does one redeem these with Avios? If I go to the BA site, the route doesn't come up. Do I do this on CX.com?
Thanks!
Mar 10, 2017, 5:37 am
#809
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Thanks to Beaulieu for noting this in post #768, it seems the MAN-SAT AA fare has been refilled so details below. Also covers MAN to OKC, LIT, and BOS.
AA ILN7B4T1 MAN to SAT/OKC/BOS - ~£1,049 in J
Doesn't seem to work for other UK non-LON AA departure points.
As noted previously by rossmacd - can be routed MAN-HEL-JFK-BOS and return. MAN-HEL would give 80 TPs, so 520 TPs in total. You could get 600 TP max if you went via HEL both out and back and did two transfers in the US, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-DCA-BOS rtn.
Example prices:
OKC - £1,049
SAT - £1,049
Routings such as MAN-BOS-DFW-SAT or MAN-JFK-PHX-SAT should be possible. You can also route MAN-HEL and then on to JFK or ORD. MAN-HEL is 80 TPs. If you route via HEL you can't do a >2000 mile route in the US though due to maximum permitted mileage, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-PHX-SAT wouldn't work.
As noted previously by rossmacd - can be routed MAN-HEL-JFK-BOS and return. So 520 TPs in total. You could get 600 TP max if you went via HEL both out and back and did two transfers in the US, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-DCA-BOS rtn.
680 is possible with MAN-HEL-xxx-JFK-DFW-SAT, where xxx is somewhere in Europe, and you can swap the DFW for basically anywhere short. The best TP/£ is via HEL but then direct to JFK or ORD, at about £911 for 600TP. Here is an example of how to search for this (pinched from Beaulieu's post!):
(now extended to 29 March)
AA ILN7B4T1 MAN to SAT/OKC/BOS - ~£1,049 in J
Doesn't seem to work for other UK non-LON AA departure points.
As noted previously by rossmacd - can be routed MAN-HEL-JFK-BOS and return. MAN-HEL would give 80 TPs, so 520 TPs in total. You could get 600 TP max if you went via HEL both out and back and did two transfers in the US, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-DCA-BOS rtn.
Example prices:
OKC - £1,049
SAT - £1,049
Routings such as MAN-BOS-DFW-SAT or MAN-JFK-PHX-SAT should be possible. You can also route MAN-HEL and then on to JFK or ORD. MAN-HEL is 80 TPs. If you route via HEL you can't do a >2000 mile route in the US though due to maximum permitted mileage, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-PHX-SAT wouldn't work.
As noted previously by rossmacd - can be routed MAN-HEL-JFK-BOS and return. So 520 TPs in total. You could get 600 TP max if you went via HEL both out and back and did two transfers in the US, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-DCA-BOS rtn.
680 is possible with MAN-HEL-xxx-JFK-DFW-SAT, where xxx is somewhere in Europe, and you can swap the DFW for basically anywhere short. The best TP/£ is via HEL but then direct to JFK or ORD, at about £911 for 600TP. Here is an example of how to search for this (pinched from Beaulieu's post!):
PERMITTED 27 MAR 17 THROUGH 30 SEP 17 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 29 MAR 17.
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA LON
Code:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA.
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Code:
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
NONE PERMITTED BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH DIRECTION
1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/
SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII
IN EACH DIRECTION
2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER AND PASSENGER/S
IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND TRAVELLING
COMPANIONS
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE
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WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE
PENALTY
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE
FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED.
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FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSES A USD50.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED RESERVATION
NOT CANCELLED BEFORE DEPARTURE
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CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR
RESERVATION CHANGE
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WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CHANGE FEES
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED
FARE COMPONENTS APPLIES
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
WHEN COMBINING NON-CHANGEABLE FARES WITH
CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE
COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE.
Last edited by KARFA; Mar 24, 2017 at 6:14 am
Mar 10, 2017, 5:58 am
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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Haha thanks KARFA and nkvuong for great suggestions. I would prefer to have a brief layover in HKG on the way back (ie KHH-HKG am, then pm back to EU) so routing via PEK is not feasible.
My initial plan is actually this: wife and child go from LHR to KHH early dec. I meed them out there mid Dec. Then all back together (via HKG) late dec.
Routing via BKK would probably be a struggle...especially only for a 140 TP gain (I think).
Is CX J better than BA J? Going out in summer on BA so would be nice to try CX as well.
I know its safer to have a night in AMS first, but is it a big risk to go first thing in the morning if there is a spare backup flight to switch to? I don't think my wife is comfortable travelling out for a night with our son by herself and it seems a waste for me to escort them to AMS just for a night.
The KHH-HKG leg ideally needs to be in business (lots and lots of luggage). How does one redeem these with Avios? If I go to the BA site, the route doesn't come up. Do I do this on CX.com?
Thanks!
My initial plan is actually this: wife and child go from LHR to KHH early dec. I meed them out there mid Dec. Then all back together (via HKG) late dec.
Routing via BKK would probably be a struggle...especially only for a 140 TP gain (I think).
Is CX J better than BA J? Going out in summer on BA so would be nice to try CX as well.
I know its safer to have a night in AMS first, but is it a big risk to go first thing in the morning if there is a spare backup flight to switch to? I don't think my wife is comfortable travelling out for a night with our son by herself and it seems a waste for me to escort them to AMS just for a night.
The KHH-HKG leg ideally needs to be in business (lots and lots of luggage). How does one redeem these with Avios? If I go to the BA site, the route doesn't come up. Do I do this on CX.com?
Thanks!
The ex-LHR routing can be LHR-PEK/BKK-HKG-LHR, so you can do KHH-HKG-LHR on the way back.
Same for the ex-AMS fare, you can route AMS-LHR-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS as well
If you search for Avios redemption for KHH-HKG (normal flight search wouldn't come up), there are seats pretty much on every flight. Dragonair KHH-HKG sometimes has First (CX J seats, but better service), but it's a fairly short flight.
If you get hit by fog, rolling delays or flights cancellation might throw your backup plan out of the window. I was stuck on the tarmac for 4 hours once due to fog, luckily it was a B2B so no issue.