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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

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Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old Feb 22, 2017, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA
All set out in the first few posts of the thread
I know but it is the ONLY intra European route that earns 140. Can't remember everything.
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Originally Posted by capt787
Thanks for your detailed response henkybaby...(i am still a novice)

so basically the details are because it is work i have to book via our travel agent who is abel to book whatever i can find him...but positioning outside UK will be a no no..
Ah, I get it now. Corporate TAs can be inflexible, even if it saves thousands...

Pretty good route you found. Surprised they have no problem with that one. Why avoid IB? It is a better product than BA... I'll have a look later to see if I stumble upon something.

Stumbled upon 560 TPs for £2500

You can do the inbound all on the same day too for £2578
but I would take the £78 and have a break in FL.

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Old Feb 22, 2017, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by henkybaby
I know but it is the ONLY intra European route that earns 140. Can't remember everything.
Not quite the only ones AY's HEL-Canary Islands flights all earn 140 EW too.
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Originally Posted by opalfruit
Not quite the only ones AY's HEL-Canary Islands flights all earn 140 EW too.
And you can book these in business? Because I can't.
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Currently in IAH, is there a return flight that would net me 30 Teir Points? The problem is it would need to be AA - would they apply me Teir Points for that?
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Originally Posted by OSIModel
Currently in IAH, is there a return flight that would net me 30 Teir Points? The problem is it would need to be AA - would they apply me Teir Points for that?
Yes you would earn TPs when flying on AA booked under the AA flight number. Just add your BAEC number to the booking.
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Currently in IAH, is there a return flight that would net me 30 Teir Points?
Can you elaborate? Just back to the UK? Or a real return flight to where exactly? What is your budget?
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Originally Posted by OSIModel
Currently in IAH, is there a return flight that would net me 30 Teir Points? The problem is it would need to be AA - would they apply me Teir Points for that?
Yes. Check ba.com to make sure that you get the tier points you need based on the booking class.
Also see if you can use upside.com with a $200 code to get an Amazon gift card and make the whole thing cheaper.
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Originally Posted by opalfruit
Not quite the only ones AY's HEL-Canary Islands flights all earn 140 EW too.
AB also has a bunch of flights ex TXL that are European and >2000 miles. https://www.oneworld.com/flights/where-we-fly lists them. FNC and TFS work well. Sometimes even direct turnarounds are available.
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Originally Posted by opalfruit
Not quite the only ones AY's HEL-Canary Islands flights all earn 140 EW too.
AFAIK, AY only have Y on their Canary Island flights and if you were flying HEL-Canaries, you'd earn more TPs going via LHR in J (160).

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Originally Posted by OSIModel
Currently in IAH, is there a return flight that would net me 30 Teir Points? The problem is it would need to be AA - would they apply me Teir Points for that?
Originally Posted by henkybaby
Can you elaborate? Just back to the UK? Or a real return flight to where exactly? What is your budget?
I think they means a return from to anywhere that would net 30TPs. IAH-LAX in F (books into I) would earn 80 TPs for which you could do all on one Saturday afternoon (for example Mar 4th is $512). The same journey in Y is $193- but books into N so would only earn you 10 TPs. You can go J one way and Y back, works out as $360 for 45 TPs.

Cheaper options if you look further out. Timescale and budget would be useful to be able to give you a better answer.

You will get better value for you TPs if you travel further with connecting flights, but if you only need 30 to reach the tier status you want, it may be cheaper overall settling for a more expensive per TP option. Do factor in the amount of earned Avios though- you can learn this by using the BA flight calulator here.

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Ah, I get it now. Corporate TAs can be inflexible, even if it saves thousands...

Pretty good route you found. Surprised they have no problem with that one. Why avoid IB? It is a better product than BA... I'll have a look later to see if I stumble upon something.

Stumbled upon 560 TPs for £2500

You can do the inbound all on the same day too for £2578
but I would take the £78 and have a break in FL.


These are really good!(thank you).. only down point is on the following Saturday flight is so early....any other options for later flight on Saturday - I am not necessarily committed to Florida...
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Did you guys catch this one: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premi...fs-444-rt.html

You can apparently also start in JER for an additional 80TP.
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These are really good!(thank you).. only down point is on the following Saturday flight is so early....any other options for later flight on Saturday - I am not necessarily committed to Florida...
Florida is the sweet spot for this fare it seems.... You can get up later if you spend one night in FL. Otherwise it's up with the birds.

I did find a cheaper one (£2200)
and you get to sleep 2.5 hrs more. It is 40TP less though at 520.
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exAMS/RTM/MXP/LIN INN0Y4Z1 Sale Fare

This is a sale fare for NYC only which seems to work with combinations of starting and ending at AMS/RTM/MXP/LIN. There is no 'ticket by' date in the fare so it is unclear when this will last until.

The fare does cover travel dates for late 2017 and in to 2018. However, if you are looking for early 2018 you need to bear in mind that AA flights are only released at 330 days whilst BA flights are released at 355 days.

Example prices for summer 2017, all price with a LHR connection:

JFK - €1,300-1,400

Can route on BA 1-4, there are services from AMS and RTM to LCY. There is also a service from LIN to LCY starting from late April.

There are no minimum stay requirements. If you wanted to you could arrive at JFK in the early afternoon and then start your return TATL that same evening.

STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Stopovers are not allowed.

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2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
      2 FREE ON AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
       DIRECTION.
  AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN
             EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN
             EACH DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH
             DIRECTION
            1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH
             DIRECTION
            2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES/
             CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
          FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
           EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
           COMPONENT.
So 2 transfers are permitted in Europe and 2 in the US each way. You could therefore route something like AMS-LHR-PHL-DCA-JFK. 520 TP should be entirely possible.

An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights would be counted as a transfer, anything beyond that would be a stopover.

VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 15 FEB 17.
The above is the only date restriction for this fare.

There is no advanced purchase restriction.

Cancellation and change conditions:

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    ANY TIME
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         NOTE -
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          TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
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          WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
          REFUNDABLE FARES
          1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
          2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
          CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
          COMPONENTS.
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          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
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          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
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          FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
          AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
          CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
          REFUND.
          FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
          ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
          THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          ORIGINAL.
          PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
          USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
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      CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
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          ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
          INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
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          CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
          MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
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          REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
          RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
          TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
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          REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
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          RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
          TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
          AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
          CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
          FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
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          BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
          THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
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          APPLIED.
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          MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
          BEING APPLIED.
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          DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
          CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
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          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
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