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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

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Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - 1,461, ORD - 1,492, LAS - 1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - 1,033, MIA - 1,133, ATL - 1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - 1,472, MIA - 1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - 1,427, MIA - 1,532, LAS - 1,667, LAX - 1,795, HNL - 2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - 1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - 1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under 3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR 0.90/TP 400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV 1.33/TP 583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB 1.33/TP 346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG 1.65/TP 593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL 1.81/TP 72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN 1.85/TP 444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV 1.89/TP 377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV 1.91/TP 765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG 2.10/TP 420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV 2.56/TP 410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan 1.50/TP 960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is 40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY 2.50/TP 203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY 2.08/TP 250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV 1.43/TP 172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb 0.99/TP 356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN 1.10/TP 44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn 80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov 0.85/TP 307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under 300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under 500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for 520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive

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Old Jan 3, 17, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by wonderman View Post
Managed to price up the following as 9 separate bookings, 2000TP's ex london for under 1 per TP if you can can the 50 amex discount on each flight and catch all of the turnarounds.


March
17th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 1
18th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 2
18th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 3
19th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 4
19th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 8
19th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 5


24th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 6
25th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 1 231
25th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 7
26th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 3 277
26th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 4 277
26th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 9

April
7th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 5 255
8th TLL LHR 06:10 09:00 7 277
8th LHR TLL 10:20 17:20 9 288
9th TLL LHR 06:05 09:10 6 277
9th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 2 223
9th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 8 277


TOTAL = 2382
AMEX TRAVEL Discount 400
TOTAL = 1982 for 2000TP's
Looks good to me But not sure if I'm mad enough to do it
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Originally Posted by rossmacd View Post
Looks good to me But not sure if I'm mad enough to do it
Some of them are unnecessarily more expensive as the ballpark number should be around 233, I notice some are in 280 region, which suggests he is using AY codes for HEL-TLL that earn less avios and add 50 fuel surcharge onto the price. If you do this look at booking on BA codes and it should come at a cheaper price.
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Old Jan 4, 17, 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77 View Post
Some of them are unnecessarily more expensive as the ballpark number should be around 233, I notice some are in 280 region, which suggests he is using AY codes for HEL-TLL that earn less avios and add 50 fuel surcharge onto the price. If you do this look at booking on BA codes and it should come at a cheaper price.
Priced up using Amex travel, BA codes where available but they don't always show. Will have a further play around to try and get the BA codes to pop out
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Old Jan 4, 17, 4:18 am
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I have just added back in the very keenly priced D-class MH fares between KUL and PEN.

44 one-way, 80 rtn, lots of availability.

Penang Island Makes a nice day trip (or overnight, or longer) from KL if you happen to be in that part of the world. Back in KL again soon so have booked another short visit

Last time I did this, some points posted quickly, but others took ages to sort out as neither MH nor BA IT are able to cope with the concept of flying the same route twice on one day (as I did ) and it required a lot of manual intervention by various back office bods to get them credited.

P.S. Don't use the taxi desk on arrival and don't take a random cab from outside the terminal - both are terrible value ! Instead, install the Grab app and/or Uber and you'll be able to whistle up a taxi for significantly less...
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Old Jan 4, 17, 4:42 am
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Have all the cheap PTY runs gone now?

Can't seem to find anything less than 597 from LAX-PTY and 897 from PTY-LAX so 2-3x the previous price for a 1/3 less TP.
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Old Jan 4, 17, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by wonderman View Post
Here's hoping for something quite tasty to emerge to HNL or on qatar, looking for an excuse to go for GGL again
Just booked a HNL run in April, a very "easy" one:

Route: DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB
Days: 4
Fare: 1,550
TPs: 920
Avios: 43,610

Any other destination which would earn same amount of TPs keeping both the fare and number of days in that region?

Cheers
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Originally Posted by 81romeo View Post
Just booked a HNL run in April, a very "easy" one:

Route: DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB
Days: 4
Fare: 1,550
TPs: 920
Avios: 43,610

Any other destination which would earn same amount of TPs keeping both the fare and number of days in that region?

Cheers
Why via PHX? was taking transcon more expensive?

When do you go? I am thinking of doing it over Easter as I have nothing planned yet.
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Originally Posted by 81romeo View Post
any other destination which would earn same amount of tps keeping both the fare and number of days in that region?

Cheers :d
anc, lih, ogg, koa, hnl
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AMS to US ILN8S4T1 Fare (also available starting from RTM for 40 less)

Thanks to Pilot37 for spotting this one.

On a quick search of a few US destinations it seems the good fares are not offered for West Coast or Hawaii.

Prices updated as of 5 January

NYC - 1,368 1,128
ORD - 1,499 1,147
PHL - 1,448 1,205
BOS - 1,368 1,205
IAD - 1,499 1,120

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Old Jan 4, 17, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
anc, lih, ogg, koa, hnl
Thanks KARFA.
How do I get to ANC? Via JFK and PHX? I don't seem to find any good deal via those two airports....
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Old Jan 4, 17, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by 81romeo View Post
Thanks KARFA.
How do I get to ANC? Via JFK and PHX? I don't seem to find any good deal via those two airports....
There should be a AA operated flight from LAX, although it may be seasonal so check aa.com.

Also bear in mind my notes on AA/AS combinations in post #1.
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
There should be a AA operated flight from LAX, although it may be seasonal so check aa.com.

Also bear in mind my notes on AA/AS combinations in post #1.
Thanks a lot for this!
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
There should be a AA operated flight from LAX, although it may be seasonal so check aa.com.

Also bear in mind my notes on AA/AS combinations in post #1.
I did check recently and could only find AA operated flights from PHX and DFW.
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Old Jan 4, 17, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by Dave_C View Post
I did check recently and could only find AA operated flights from PHX and DFW.
It looks like the AA operated flights are to SEA, then from SEA to ANC it's AS.
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
AMS to US ILN8S4T1 Fare (also available starting from RTM for 40 less)

Thanks to Pilot37 for spotting this one.

On a quick search of a few US destinations it seems the good fares are not offered for West Coast or Hawaii.

NYC - 1,128
ORD - 1,147
PHL - 1,205
BOS - 1,205
IAD - 1,120
It's pretty good but you can go ex-LON on AA for 1400 to JFK, 1430 to ORD, 1500 to PHL next summer. Not sure the 300 difference is worth the 80TP plus the faff, and you'll obviously eat into that 300 with positioning costs.
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