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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
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  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old Jan 3, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by wonderman
Great itinerary there, having looked again I think that's the best way to do it.

There's actually a pretty good chance of getting a same day Avios flight to reposition back to HEL/TLL if that helps catch another connection.

You need an odd number of returns pivoted around a Sat night in order to make the fares work and 2 turnarounds is a sensible way to limit missed connections having a knock on effect.

I think I'm going to try 3 of these for 1800TP's. Not that it's worth much but triple avios on base points if flown prior to march 31st for 8 sectors as well. "Easiest" way to gold from London that I've seen for some time.

Here's hoping for something quite tasty to emerge to HNL or on qatar, looking for an excuse to go for GGL again
You do need an odd number of bookings in order to make the Saturday night rule work for you (I think!).

The flight numbers are as follows (to help you with booking):

Friday:
BA6032 10:20 15:15
AY113 16:25 17:00


Saturday:
AY118 06:05 06:40
BA6031 08:00 09:10

BA6032 10:20 15:15
AY113 16:25 17:00


Sunday:
AY118 06:05 06:40
BA6031 08:00 09:10

BA6032 10:20 15:15
AY113 16:25 17:00

AY114 17:25 18:00
BA6035 19:30 20:40


Key:

Booking 1
Booking 2
Booking 3

Enjoy PM me if you need any help.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 2:05 pm
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thanks for pulling the updated thread together KARFA!

great job so well done and thank you!
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:00 pm
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As this is my first post it could be entirely in the wrong place (apologies in advance).

I am off to Bali in October this year for my honeymoon, I am trying to get there in business/first. My plan is as follows;

Sign up for a BA Amex card (referred by a friend for extra points). Trigger the minimum spend within the first 3 months to get the bonus Avios, cancel and wait 6 months to do the same thing again. I have read it is possible to to have my partner sign up for another Amex card and do the same thing but I'm not too sure it is doable. In doing this it will allow me to redeem a companion ticket (to be used to travel to Bali) and just pay the taxes.

I also want/need to get to silver or gold (I am assuming this will help with the ticket to Bali). Reading through the thread it is possible to gain enough tier points from a single trip with a bit of planning?

This could be a complete disaster.....or an absolute blast. I think I might create my own thread to provide some laughs.

Any thoughts?

Thanks. Alex.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:08 pm
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BA don't fly to Bali so you can get to SIN or KUL. However, currently there is also a way to get to DPS from LHR in J for £1200 on MH (see premium fares thread) making the entire process a lot less complicated and only slightly more expensive.

Also keep an eye out for the QR sale starting on the 9th.

Business class flights have become much cheaper, especially if you don't focus on BA. Redemptions are not as valuable as they once were.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Crawford
As this is my first post it could be entirely in the wrong place (apologies in advance).

I am off to Bali in October this year for my honeymoon, I am trying to get there in business/first. My plan is as follows;

Sign up for a BA Amex card (referred by a friend for extra points). Trigger the minimum spend within the first 3 months to get the bonus Avios, cancel and wait 6 months to do the same thing again. I have read it is possible to to have my partner sign up for another Amex card and do the same thing but I'm not too sure it is doable. In doing this it will allow me to redeem a companion ticket (to be used to travel to Bali) and just pay the taxes.

I also want/need to get to silver or gold (I am assuming this will help with the ticket to Bali). Reading through the thread it is possible to gain enough tier points from a single trip with a bit of planning?

This could be a complete disaster.....or an absolute blast. I think I might create my own thread to provide some laughs.

Any thoughts?

Thanks. Alex.
If you're trying for October 2018 this might work, but if you need to wait 6 months + to get the miles, there probably won't be any avios seats available if it's October 2017 you're after. If you can afford it, I think there are still some seats left on MH to Bali for around £1150 in J, or Qatar is launching a sale on the 9th of this month. Qatar particularly has a great business class, so if you can get a fare around £1100-£1300 I'd jump on it!

MH: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premi...0-1500-mh.html
Qatar: http://www.qatarairways.com/global/e...-festival.page

Thanks to those who posted these deals originally!

Edit: Beaten to it!

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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:29 pm
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Thanks for the replies.

It is October 2017.

Still getting to grips with all the codes, MH (Malaysian Airlines?) QR (Qatar?)

Is the difference between business and first worth all the extra effort?

The sideline of trying to get gold on BA becomes pointless then if I book with another airline, is it still worth it for other benefits?

Thanks for the patience.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:44 pm
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Those questions are more for another thread. Personally I don't think chasing Gold is worth it, unless you fly a lot in economy and need lounge access.

BA F is nice but not massively more impressive than QR J. MH is also pretty good. It's a bed in the sky after all. There are many very good airlines out there. I chose GA to Bali this year. I paid around £1600 ex LHR with one leg to CGK in F. Arguably one of the best F class products out there.

Maybe the mods can move these posts to one of the many threads discussing these topics? You can also find many more (and different) opinions there. I'm on my mobile so I can't easily link to them.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:54 pm
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I take it GA is Garuda Airlines? I've seen a lot of results from them when searching.

Best I can so far (Oct 14th to 22nd) is around £1700 pp in business.

Looks like first might be out of reach (trying to stay under £3k for two people).

Again, thank you for the response.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
You do need an odd number of bookings in order to make the Saturday night rule work for you (I think!).

The flight numbers are as follows (to help you with booking):

Friday:
BA6032 10:20 15:15
AY113 16:25 17:00


Saturday:
AY118 06:05 06:40
BA6031 08:00 09:10

BA6032 10:20 15:15
AY113 16:25 17:00


Sunday:
AY118 06:05 06:40
BA6031 08:00 09:10

BA6032 10:20 15:15
AY113 16:25 17:00

AY114 17:25 18:00
BA6035 19:30 20:40


Key:

Booking 1
Booking 2
Booking 3

Enjoy PM me if you need any help.
Really useful thanks.

What prices did you get for the flights? Booking 3 pricing up as £355 for the dates I'm looking at. I'm tight so might nest them across 2 weekends, on amex travel you can book TLL-LHR cheaper than the other way around. Will have a play with spanning the bookings over multiple weekends to see if I can get some price out of it.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Alex Crawford
I take it GA is Garuda Airlines? I've seen a lot of results from them when searching.

Best I can so far (Oct 14th to 22nd) is around £1700 pp in business.

Looks like first might be out of reach (trying to stay under £3k for two people).

Again, thank you for the response.
Wait and see what the QR sale brings on 9/1
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 5:11 pm
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Managed to price up the following as 9 separate bookings, 2000TP's ex london for under £1 per TP if you can can the £50 amex discount on each flight and catch all of the turnarounds.


March
17th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 1
18th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 2
18th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 3
19th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 4
19th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 8
19th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 5


24th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 6
25th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 1 £231
25th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 7
26th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 3 £277
26th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 4 £277
26th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 9

April
7th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 5 £255
8th TLL LHR 06:10 09:00 7 £277
8th LHR TLL 10:20 17:20 9 £288
9th TLL LHR 06:05 09:10 6 £277
9th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 2 £223
9th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 8 £277


TOTAL = £2382
AMEX TRAVEL Discount £400
TOTAL = £1982 for 2000TP's
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by wonderman
Managed to price up the following as 9 separate bookings, 2000TP's ex london for under £1 per TP if you can can the £50 amex discount on each flight and catch all of the turnarounds.


March
17th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 1
18th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 2
18th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 3
19th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 4
19th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 8
19th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 5


24th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 6
25th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 1 £231
25th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 7
26th TLL LHR 06:10 09:10 3 £277
26th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 4 £277
26th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 9

April
7th LHR TLL 07:30 14:20 5 £255
8th TLL LHR 06:10 09:00 7 £277
8th LHR TLL 10:20 17:20 9 £288
9th TLL LHR 06:05 09:10 6 £277
9th LHR TLL 10:20 17:00 2 £223
9th TLL LHR 17:25 20:40 8 £277


TOTAL = £2382
AMEX TRAVEL Discount £400
TOTAL = £1982 for 2000TP's
Wow, good luck on this.

Is the 25 min turnaround possible at TLL? Is it just the same aircraft? i.e you don't get off?

Interesting, you'll either love or hate TLL after that I imagine!
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA

If you meant b2b at TLL yes that's fine from the reports of those who have been so far. Basically get off, wait at gate, get back on.
B2b at TLL seems fine according to the experience of others here.

I'm going to play with the dates to try and minimise a missed connection at LHR having knock on effects if possible.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 6:08 pm
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Is that £400 discount based on different cards? I may have misread the Amex T&Cs but it looked like once per card.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ParJA
Thanks so much for your kindness, KARFA.

My husband is presently GOLD but needs to get 615 TPS by Feb.8th to retain his Gold Status. I have just read about a great deal on the LHR-HEL-TLL trip for 200 TPS and only 232 GBPs. Are there still seats for this weekend on that deal and the new Finnair plane? Also need to go from GLA or EDI down to LHR.

We are both retired and able to travel anytime we can get a super deal for TPs.
My status is also GOLD but will need to get 1,060 TPS by May to retain my Gold status.

Any super great MR deals that we can do from Scotland or LHR that would get my husband his 615 in one go? We would be travelling together and would appreciate business class. I have never flown in First so if something fabulous was available could possibly be tempted.

Thanks for any help you can offer us.
Hi ParJA. I noticed you have managed to get some answers on the TLL route on another thread now - hopefully you should be able to get it later this year if you still want to go and also try the AY A350. 615 TPs in one go just travelling around Europe is a very tough ask and you are going to need a few trips to get there. If you want to go further afield there may be some options (hopefully someone can suggest) but with 4 weeks notice this would be tricky.
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