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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

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  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old Jan 3, 2017, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
I would say it's possible but you need to be able to run and not have luggage (even hand luggage, so you an sprint through security check). Gate 42 is the furthest from the piers at T3 and the A350 AY uses it occasionally and it would take you good 10 mins to get to flight connections from there, 3 mins through the scanners, 10 mins running back to gate. Very tight but doable, as most AY have turnaround time of 55-70 mins.
I'm looking at turning around AY831 landing @ T3 09:10 with AY832 departing T3 @ 10:20 which gives me 5 hours in a bed on the A350 and a theoretical 70 min turnaround.

Planning on having nothing more than my phone, wallet and a good pair of running legs.

Stupidity to try it or worth a gamble?
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by wonderman
I'm looking at turning around AY831 landing @ T3 09:10 with AY832 departing T3 @ 10:20 which gives me 5 hours in a bed on the A350 and a theoretical 70 min turnaround.

Planning on having nothing more than my phone, wallet and a good pair of running legs.

Stupidity to try it or worth a gamble?
Worth a gamble See my post above.

What's the worst that could happen?
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
I have 2x A350 HEL-LHR-HEL back-to-backs on the same weekend planned. All for a bit of fun. If I miss it, no biggie, but I think it is possible considering the 70min turnaround time - albeit with some fast moving in between
What's your back up if it goes wrong?
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by wonderman
I'm looking at turning around AY831 landing @ T3 09:10 with AY832 departing T3 @ 10:20 which gives me 5 hours in a bed on the A350 and a theoretical 70 min turnaround.

Planning on having nothing more than my phone, wallet and a good pair of running legs.

Stupidity to try it or worth a gamble?
I would go for it but then I am crazy!
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by wonderman
What's your back up if it goes wrong?
Nothing. These things happen
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
Worth a gamble See my post above.

What's the worst that could happen?
My biggest worry is how many nested flights I've got together. If I try for 8 back to back and this happens on day 2 then potentially I've missed 7 return flights

I think it's do-able though, going to price it all up later. Sensible thing would be to break into 2 trips each over 4 nights.

3 years since I've done this and I'm a bit rusty, do codeshare flights earn Avios as if they are BA metal? Also do codeshares count as the 4 BA sectors required for status ot do these have to be on BA metal?
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 9:57 am
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If you have 8 booked I would be interested to see how many you make. I suspect you will have at least 1, possibly more, T3 b2b failures.

Flights earn generally based on the code you book under, so a BA codeshare on AY earns per the BA earning table.

A booked BA codeshare on any operating carrier counts as an eligible flight towards the 4 you need.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by wonderman
I'm looking at turning around AY831 landing @ T3 09:10 with AY832 departing T3 @ 10:20 which gives me 5 hours in a bed on the A350 and a theoretical 70 min turnaround.
Also bear in mind you do not have 70 minutes. It seems AY advertise the gate closes at 15 minutes to go. They may possibly wait until 10 minutes in practice (not sure on that).
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by wonderman
Have up to 12 cards with offer loaded lined up
Ahhh, then it works

Originally Posted by wonderman

I was actually contemplating a 5000TP GGL run to TLL, 25 returns but don't think my sanity would hold out.
Oh-oh, I'm doing 4 and already think it's too much!
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by wonderman
My biggest worry is how many nested flights I've got together. If I try for 8 back to back and this happens on day 2 then potentially I've missed 7 return flights

I think it's do-able though, going to price it all up later. Sensible thing would be to break into 2 trips each over 4 nights.
I have 3 nested bookings - so 12 sectors in total:

Friday - LHR-HEL-TLL
Saturday - TLL-HEL-LHR-HEL-TLL
Sunday - TLL-HEL-LHR-HEL-TLL-HEL-LHR

(includes 2x B2Bs at LHR T3 on A350)

If it goes wrong, then who knows where I'll end up, and how many sectors I will actually fly, but an experiences nonetheless
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 12:56 pm
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I'd appreciate your collective wisdom. ITA gives me this

London (LHR) to Tallinn (TLL) — Sat, Jan 28
Preferred cabin is not available on some flights.

London (LHR) to Helsinki (HEL) — Sat, Jan 28
British Airways 6036
Dep: 7:30 am
Arr: 12:20 pm
2h 50m
Airbus A319
Business (I)
Meal
OPERATED BY FINNAIR
Layover in HEL
1h 25m

Helsinki (HEL) to Tallinn (TLL) — Sat, Jan 28
Finnair 107
Dep: 1:45 pm
Arr: 2:20 pm
0h 35m
ATR 72
Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY NORDIC REGIONAL AIRLINES
Tallinn (TLL) to London (LHR) — Sun, Jan 29
Preferred cabin is not available on some flights.

Tallinn (TLL) to Helsinki (HEL) — Sun, Jan 29
Finnair 110
Dep: 12:15 pm
Arr: 12:50 pm
0h 35m
ATR 72
Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY NORDIC REGIONAL AIRLINES
Layover in HEL
1h 10m

Helsinki (HEL) to London (LHR) — Sun, Jan 29
British Airways 6079
Dep: 2:00 pm
Arr: 3:10 pm
3h 10m
Airbus A319
Business (I)
Meal
OPERATED BY FINNAIR
Mileage
2,418 total miles
CO2 Emissions
1,285 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
London Heathrow (LHR)
Tallinn Lennart Meri (TLL)
Helsinki-Vantaa (HEL)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
£324.30


I can't see it on BA website ( no surprise there!), so rang BA and quoted all the information. Lady can only get it to price into fully flexible and an eye popping £2000 or so. She has sent it to sales to quote, but has ITA got this entirely wrong, or is there something major I'm missing?

Cheers
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by kipperman
I'd appreciate your collective wisdom. ITA gives me this

[I]London (LHR) to Tallinn (TLL) — Sat, Jan 28
Preferred cabin is not available on some flights.

Tallinn (TLL) to Helsinki (HEL) — Sun, Jan 29

I can't see it on BA website ( no surprise there!), so rang BA and quoted all the information. Lady can only get it to price into fully flexible and an eye popping £2000 or so. She has sent it to sales to quote, but has ITA got this entirely wrong, or is there something major I'm missing?

Cheers
I found a similar flight for £345.00 (325 + 20 booking fee) at mytrip.com (which I never heard of before) through Skyscanner.

https://www.mytrip.com/gb/flights/se...servations/new

Priceline does it too:

https://www.priceline.com/fly/checko...f55db4900b5919

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Old Jan 3, 2017, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by kipperman
I'd appreciate your collective wisdom. ITA gives me this

London (LHR) to Tallinn (TLL) — Sat, Jan 28
Preferred cabin is not available on some flights.

London (LHR) to Helsinki (HEL) — Sat, Jan 28
British Airways 6036
Dep: 7:30 am
Arr: 12:20 pm
2h 50m
Airbus A319
Business (I)
Meal
OPERATED BY FINNAIR
Layover in HEL
1h 25m

Helsinki (HEL) to Tallinn (TLL) — Sat, Jan 28
Finnair 107
Dep: 1:45 pm
Arr: 2:20 pm
0h 35m
ATR 72
Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY NORDIC REGIONAL AIRLINES
Tallinn (TLL) to London (LHR) — Sun, Jan 29
Preferred cabin is not available on some flights.

Tallinn (TLL) to Helsinki (HEL) — Sun, Jan 29
Finnair 110
Dep: 12:15 pm
Arr: 12:50 pm
0h 35m
ATR 72
Economy (Y)
OPERATED BY NORDIC REGIONAL AIRLINES
Layover in HEL
1h 10m

Helsinki (HEL) to London (LHR) — Sun, Jan 29
British Airways 6079
Dep: 2:00 pm
Arr: 3:10 pm
3h 10m
Airbus A319
Business (I)
Meal
OPERATED BY FINNAIR
Mileage
2,418 total miles
CO2 Emissions
1,285 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
London Heathrow (LHR)
Tallinn Lennart Meri (TLL)
Helsinki-Vantaa (HEL)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
£324.30


I can't see it on BA website ( no surprise there!), so rang BA and quoted all the information. Lady can only get it to price into fully flexible and an eye popping £2000 or so. She has sent it to sales to quote, but has ITA got this entirely wrong, or is there something major I'm missing?

Cheers
Amex travel is your friend for these fares to TLL - it priced up straight away for me and is bookable online:

https://travel.americanexpress.co.uk.../arc.cfm?tab=h

You have an Amex issued amex card? If so I can show you how to save £50 on the fare quoted.
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
I have 3 nested bookings - so 12 sectors in total:

Friday - LHR-HEL-TLL
Saturday - TLL-HEL-LHR-HEL-TLL
Sunday - TLL-HEL-LHR-HEL-TLL-HEL-LHR

(includes 2x B2Bs at LHR T3 on A350)

If it goes wrong, then who knows where I'll end up, and how many sectors I will actually fly, but an experiences nonetheless
Great itinerary there, having looked again I think that's the best way to do it.

There's actually a pretty good chance of getting a same day Avios flight to reposition back to HEL/TLL if that helps catch another connection.

You need an odd number of returns pivoted around a Sat night in order to make the fares work and 2 turnarounds is a sensible way to limit missed connections having a knock on effect.

I think I'm going to try 3 of these for 1800TP's. Not that it's worth much but triple avios on base points if flown prior to march 31st for 8 sectors as well. "Easiest" way to gold from London that I've seen for some time.

Here's hoping for something quite tasty to emerge to HNL or on qatar, looking for an excuse to go for GGL again

Last edited by wonderman; Jan 3, 2017 at 1:54 pm
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Old Jan 3, 2017, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by wonderman
Amex travel is your friend for these fares to TLL - it priced up straight away for me and is bookable online:

https://travel.americanexpress.co.uk.../arc.cfm?tab=h

You have an Amex issued amex card? If so I can show you how to save £50 on the fare quoted.
If a BA amex card counts,then yes. No Scotsman will turn that offer down - I'd appreciate the hint.
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