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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - 1,461, ORD - 1,492, LAS - 1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - 1,033, MIA - 1,133, ATL - 1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - 1,472, MIA - 1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - 1,427, MIA - 1,532, LAS - 1,667, LAX - 1,795, HNL - 2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - 1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - 1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under 3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR 0.90/TP 400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV 1.33/TP 583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB 1.33/TP 346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG 1.65/TP 593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL 1.81/TP 72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN 1.85/TP 444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV 1.89/TP 377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV 1.91/TP 765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG 2.10/TP 420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV 2.56/TP 410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan 1.50/TP 960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is 40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY 2.50/TP 203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY 2.08/TP 250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV 1.43/TP 172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb 0.99/TP 356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN 1.10/TP 44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn 80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov 0.85/TP 307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under 300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under 500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for 520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive

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Old Aug 20, 17, 3:33 am
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Originally Posted by skyscanner View Post
Going through PHX to PHL is $1k each return trip. That would be $2k to renew the status.

I found the LAX-PHX-JFK-CLT-RDU-MIA-PTY return for $1k as well. It yields 680 TPs. Could this be optimized (more TPs or smaller cost) ?
It can, look at previous post #2622 , Rossmacd seems to have the PTY routing possibilities memorised. I think you slot LAS after LAX and MCO after RDU, giving you the extra 80.

But it's also exactly what you said you didn't want to do. I don't think you can construct one of these many segment routes without ending outside the USA, if cost is important. I think Guatemala City and San Juan might be other options, but I guess these are the same as Panama, although doesn't San Juan have a sort of dependant territory status for USA.

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Old Aug 20, 17, 4:02 am
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Originally Posted by alwaysquestions View Post
Thanks aks120 that did the trick

I followed your lead and am now booked in November. Unfortunately I couldn't get onto the AY A350 this time but did manage A class on both transcon legs!

Thanks again

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Glad it worked out for you!

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Old Aug 20, 17, 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by ubiest View Post
similar prices for HKG/ICN/NRT/CAN/PEK/PVG and OJ possible same 840 TPs.
Positioning is usually more pleasant in MUC.
Has anyone succeeded in booking one of these online? If so how/where? Using bookwithmatrix I get directed to flightnetwork and priceline, both of which fail. Am I better off just phoning UL ?

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Old Aug 20, 17, 5:04 am
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Originally Posted by polemarch View Post
Has anyone succeeded in booking one of these online? If so how/where? Using bookwithmatrix I get directed to flightnetwork and priceline, both of which fail. Am I better off just phoning UL ?

no success with OTA, so booked through the AMEX Plat travel desk. UL was a hassle of having to send photocopies of passport / credit card, etc, so I just went with Amex; they do well in finding I availability on the QR flights via waitlist before ticketing, which is sometimes elusive at peak times (e.g. at end of Ramadan).
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Old Aug 20, 17, 5:24 am
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My Tier points are sorted for the year , thanks again to aks120

This time I'm asking on behalf of a work colleague. She is trying to get c400-500TPs to qualify for a GUF2.

She will have a 3 day window over the third weekend in November based in LAS. Also UK based from 28Nov to 5Dec and isn't averse to an ex-eu.

What do you think my be a good plan? I have tried the various routes I sometimes use but they usually only net 250 ish.

Could I be so bold and ask for help again please?

Thanks as always

AQ
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Old Aug 20, 17, 5:39 am
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Originally Posted by polemarch View Post
Has anyone succeeded in booking one of these online? If so how/where? Using bookwithmatrix I get directed to flightnetwork and priceline, both of which fail. Am I better off just phoning UL ?

I booked a similar route but to MLE rather than HKG. I couldn't find any way to do it online so phoned UL. I got the flights booked (eventually), but it required several hours on the phone spread over a few calls, including trying to get a duplicate credit card charge refunded. The whole process was massively over-complicated - they didn't ticket it for ages because they couldn't see that any money had been paid from my credit card, despite my bank confirming that it had been paid.

In summary, it will work phoning UL but if you can find a better way you'll save yourself a lot of hassle.
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Old Aug 20, 17, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by DocS View Post
Great fare - are stopovers allowed do you know?
Where/how did you book - Flightcentre having trouble booking it?

Managed to get Trailfinders to get the price. Hopefully will be ticketed tomorrow.

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Old Aug 20, 17, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by alwaysquestions View Post
My Tier points are sorted for the year , thanks again to aks120

This time I'm asking on behalf of a work colleague. She is trying to get c400-500TPs to qualify for a GUF2.

She will have a 3 day window over the third weekend in November based in LAS. Also UK based from 28Nov to 5Dec and isn't averse to an ex-eu.

What do you think my be a good plan? I have tried the various routes I sometimes use but they usually only net 250 ish.

Could I be so bold and ask for help again please?

Thanks as always

AQ
If she is based in LAS, I have seen some quite good fares to SJU from SFO or LAS recently - you can pick up quite a few TPs running around the country on those (below gives you 480) or LAS-PHX-LAX-SFO return can net you 240 for under 500 at the moment.

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Old Aug 20, 17, 6:14 am
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Originally Posted by aks120 View Post
Just booked - ARN - LAS for 1500 and 1020 TPs. Thank you to the collective board and my Tallin Do friends for getting me the best deal that I could think of!

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Great job finding this ! Now I feel sad with my 740 TP for 1740
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Old Aug 20, 17, 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by palmanfr View Post
Great job finding this ! Now I feel sad with my 740 TP for 1740
Never feel sad - if the price is right for you when you push 'buy' then it is all good. I actually have another flight to SFO that I thought was good value until this one came up!

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Old Aug 20, 17, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by alwaysquestions View Post
My Tier points are sorted for the year , thanks again to aks120

This time I'm asking on behalf of a work colleague. She is trying to get c400-500TPs to qualify for a GUF2.

She will have a 3 day window over the third weekend in November based in LAS. Also UK based from 28Nov to 5Dec and isn't averse to an ex-eu.

What do you think my be a good plan? I have tried the various routes I sometimes use but they usually only net 250 ish.

Could I be so bold and ask for help again please?

Thanks as always

AQ
Here's a couple of ideas, Europe-based:
OSL-HEL-AGP 360 TPs 600 GBP
JER-LON-IST/RAK/MLA 240Tps 350-420 GBP

Or have a proper holiday:
MUC-DOH-MLE/GAN QR+UL 640 TPs 1240 GBP
VCE-DOH-BKK QR 560 TPs 1225 GBP
VCE/MIL-LHR-DOH-KBV BA+QR 640 TPs 1700+ GBP all BA codes for extra Avios
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Old Aug 20, 17, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by aks120 View Post
Just booked - ARN - LAS for 1500 and 1020 TPs. Thank you to the collective board and my Tallin Do friends for getting me the best deal that I could think of!

Regards

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Hi aks120. Always been in awe of the TP runners but have the opportunity to use your creative routing for a family member's stag do in Vegas to avoid travelling in steerage with them on the direct route and of course earn a few extra avios and TPs!
Only problem is having found the routing on matrix, copied it into Book with Matrix, worked though the AA.com booking pages (where the fare quote is in Dollars), the payment page kicks me out when I say I have a UK credit card. What's the trick to pay for this?
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Old Aug 20, 17, 9:04 am
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Re the Vegas trip.

Two issues - I dislike Vegas and the TA on the 777 is only business - apart from this it is great
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Old Aug 20, 17, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by gcuk View Post
Hi aks120. Always been in awe of the TP runners but have the opportunity to use your creative routing for a family member's stag do in Vegas to avoid travelling in steerage with them on the direct route and of course earn a few extra avios and TPs!
Only problem is having found the routing on matrix, copied it into Book with Matrix, worked though the AA.com booking pages (where the fare quote is in Dollars), the payment page kicks me out when I say I have a UK credit card. What's the trick to pay for this?
Hi, I had the same issue a few weeks ago when I booked my trip. I have an Amex issued in France, and booked the trip on the US AA website via bookwithmatrix.com. I typed my french address on the payment pagel, with the french zip code and kept united states as my country. I believe the system mostly looks if the zip code and house address/number matches the
credit card number. Record locator was immediately given and tickets were issued 10-15 minutes after.
Indeed, my card was charged in USD by amex (the latter added a 2% service fee on top as my account is in EUR)

AA rules for payment using a foreign credit card is shameful in my opinion, even the US call center (the only one you can reach 24/7) cannot process credit cards issued outside the US. Call that a global airline...
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Old Aug 20, 17, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by gcuk View Post
Hi aks120. Always been in awe of the TP runners but have the opportunity to use your creative routing for a family member's stag do in Vegas to avoid travelling in steerage with them on the direct route and of course earn a few extra avios and TPs!
Only problem is having found the routing on matrix, copied it into Book with Matrix, worked though the AA.com booking pages (where the fare quote is in Dollars), the payment page kicks me out when I say I have a UK credit card. What's the trick to pay for this?
Use the ITA Powertools thingy (referenced elsewhere in this thread) - you then have a choice of going the European AA site and it is OK with European issued credit cards. I found the price slightly cheaper due to exchange rates too.

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