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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - Ł1,033, MIA - Ł1,133, ATL - Ł1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - Ł1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - Ł1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR Ł0.90/TP Ł400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV Ł1.33/TP Ł583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB Ł1.33/TP Ł346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG Ł1.65/TP Ł593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL Ł1.81/TP Ł72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN Ł1.85/TP Ł444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV Ł1.89/TP Ł377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV Ł1.91/TP Ł765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG Ł2.10/TP Ł420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV Ł2.56/TP Ł410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan Ł1.50/TP Ł960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is Ł40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY Ł2.50/TP Ł203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY Ł2.08/TP Ł250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV Ł1.43/TP Ł172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb Ł0.99/TP Ł356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN Ł1.10/TP Ł44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn Ł80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov Ł0.85/TP Ł307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under Ł500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~Ł235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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Old May 16, 2017, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
It is not guaranteed. About 10% of AA's 777 fleet has angle flat seats, although they are rarely used on MIA-MAD.

See the wiki at https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ssion-119.html
Always my fear with AA.

BA from DUB via London are Ł350 per person dearer but you know its guaranteed CW.

Anyone with views on the IB product MAD>MIA>MAD and if guaranteed flat ?
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Old May 16, 2017, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco
I dont seem to get that option. The AA flights are sending me via JFK ?

Might be my dates.
Share your proposed routing, destination and dates, and maybe we can help you
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:07 am
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Anyway of getting to LAS in early October ex CH?
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
Share your proposed routing, destination and dates, and maybe we can help you
Im going EX EU to MIA - 4th/5th august for 13-16 days. Appreciate its better suited for Prem fares thread but happy to go on detour also for points as struggling this year.

The DUB routs just now is pricing at Ł1350 pp. I insist on Flat bed though for the trans atlantic flights.

Appreciate any suggestions.
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco
Im going EX EU to MIA - 4th/5th august for 13-16 days. Appreciate its better suited for Prem fares thread but happy to go on detour also for points as struggling this year.

The DUB routs just now is pricing at Ł1350 pp. I insist on Flat bed though for the trans atlantic flights.

Appreciate any suggestions.
Something like this? It will maximise your points, if you don't mind a little jumping about. Ł1,050 for 520 TPs - Ł2/TP
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by steve170461
Anyway of getting to LAS in early October ex CH?
Best to take one of the ZRH/GVA-SFO/LAX-ZRH/GVA fares then, take a hop over to LAS on a separate ticket.
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
Something like this? It will maximise your points, if you don't mind a little jumping about. Ł1,050 for 520 TPs - Ł2/TP
does the AA A330 guarantee lie flat business then
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco
does the AA A330 guarantee lie flat business then
Yes. They use the ex-US 'Envoy' product. It is 1-2-1 and very good. Plenty of trip reports in the Trip Report forum, to confirm this. I use the AA A330s quite frequently, especially into PHL.
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
Yes. They use the ex-US 'Envoy' product. It is 1-2-1 and very good. Plenty of trip reports in the Trip Report forum, to confirm this. I use the AA A330s quite frequently, especially into PHL.
Thanks Ross
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:49 am
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Is there any way of getting that flight in early-mid December (6ish-20ish) ex CH - LAX/LAS/SFO?

I can't seem to make the numbers work on Matrix.

Sorry!
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Old May 16, 2017, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by ExecutiveClubConcorde
Is there any way of getting that flight in early-mid December (6ish-20ish) ex CH - LAX/LAS/SFO?

I can't seem to make the numbers work on Matrix.

Sorry!
The fare is definitely available in December. Is this what you are looking for?

Depart: ZRH, GVA
Routing Code: MAD MIA,JFK,PHL,BOS LAX,SFO / alliance oneworld

Destination: SFO, LAX
Routing Code: LAX,SFO MIA,JFK,PHL,BOS MAD / alliance oneworld
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Old May 16, 2017, 8:31 am
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Does anyone have a creative ZRH-BOS routing?
Every option I try to price comes up super expensive. Thanks!
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Old May 16, 2017, 8:37 am
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I seem to racall that the AA 767s are already upgraded.

If AAs remaining 772s are all to be upgraded by August 2017 and BA, EI and IB are all lie-flat, is it still possible to get a OW carrier transatlantic seat that is not lie-flat?

I believe all AirBerlin TA flights are lie-flat, are there any non-lie-flat AY planes flying transatlantic?

If so what are the routes at most risk?
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Old May 16, 2017, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by WorldClub
Does anyone have a creative ZRH-BOS routing?
Every option I try to price comes up super expensive. Thanks!
Something simple like these?
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Old May 16, 2017, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by WorldClub
Does anyone have a creative ZRH-BOS routing?
Every option I try to price comes up super expensive. Thanks!
I tried via JFK and ORD earlier today and it worked fine.
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