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Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2017/18 thread

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2017 POUG rate tracker

Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you. Please delete any figures from 2017 or earlier if you have a 2018 price. Previous data lives on via post 2.

UPDATED TO: Post #418

POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner (example from MMB below). You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.



Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
  • ABZ - £65 (to and from LHR, Mar 2017)
  • ACE -£119 (to LGW, Nov 2016)
  • AGP – £79 (Feb 2016, LCY), £99 (Oct 2018, ex-LGW) €119 (To LGW, July 2017)
  • AMS - £89 (Apr 2017/Nov 2017) ex LHR, £79 from LGW (Feb 2017), £69 for LCY-AMS (May 2017), £79 for LCY-AMS (Dec 2018),£69 for AMS-LCY (May 2017, June 2017), €79 for LCY-AMS (May), £79 for LHR-AMS (Oct 2018)
  • ANE - £69 (Mar 2016) ex LCY
  • ARN - £129 ex-LHR (July 2018), £129 ex-ARN (Aug 2018)
  • ATH - £149 - both ways (Jun 2017)
  • BCN – €109 from LGW (Feb 2016) £89 from LGW (May2017), £119 from LHR (Apr 2017), €140 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £89 (to LGW, May 2017), £89 (LGW-BCN/BCN-LGW Aug 2017)
  • BDS - £60 (March 2017)
  • BGO - £79 (Dec 2015)
  • BHD - £69 (Feb 2018), £69 (out and back LHR Jun, Aug and Oct 2018)
  • BLL - £69 (to LHR, Jul 2017)
  • BLQ - £69 (to LHR, Jun 2017), £89 (each way, Dec 2017)
  • BOD - £49 (Aug 2017
  • BRI - £60 (March 2017)
  • BRU - £129 (Jan 2016), €130 (Dec 2016) €89 (To LHR, May 2017)
  • BSL - £109 (to LHR, Jan 2017) CHF 190 (Feb 2016), CHF 169 (Dec 2018)
  • BUD - £149 (to LHR, Nov 2018), GBP149 (to BUD, December 2017)
  • CDG - £85 (Jan 2017), €115 (to LHR, Sep 2016), €109 (to LHR, May 2017)
  • CGN - €89 (to LGW, Aug 2018)
  • CHQ - £245 (Dec 2016)
  • CMF -
  • CPH - £109 (Jun 2017), £129 (to LHR, Jan 2017)
  • CTA - £89 (Jun 2017) €109 (to LGW, Jan 2017)
  • DBV - £89 LGW (Nov 2015)
  • DUB - £119 (to LHR, Feb 2017), £69 (to LHR, June 2017), £69 (out and back from LHR - Aug 2017), €89 (to LCY Aug 2018 on HBO fare), €99 (to Dublin from LHR Aug 2018 on HBO fare) £89 (Oct 2018)
  • DUS - £69 (to/from LHR, May 2018)) €79 (to LCY, Jul 2017) €155 (to LHR, Mar 2017)
  • EDI - £65 (Jan 2018 - from LGW), £70 (From LGW, Feb 2018), £60 (to LCY, May 2018), £70 (from LGW, May 2018), £69 (to LHR, June 2018), £59 (to LCY, Jul 2018), £69 (from LHR, Aug 2018)
  • FAO - €119 (to LGW, Jul 2017)
  • FCO - £139 (from LHR, Apr 2017), £89 (from LGW, Aug 2018)
  • FLR - £89 (Nov 2018)
  • FRA - £69 (to LCY Apr 2018) £49 (Oct 2017) / £49 and £50 (Aug 2017) /£49 (to LHR, Aug 2017), €109/145 (to LHR, Jan 2017/Feb 2017) / €79 (to LCY, Jul 2016). €59 to LHR (May 2017), £109 (from LHR, Aug 2018)
  • GIB - £149 (Oct 2018), £149 (to LHR Oct 2019)
  • GLA - £65 (to LHR, Mar 2017)
  • GOT – £109 (Dec 2018)
  • GVA - £129 (May 2017) £79 (Mar 2017), £89 (to LGW, Jan 2017) £129 (to LHR, May 2017), CHF99 (to LCY, Dec 2017), £139 (From LHR May 2018)
  • HAJ - £90 (Jan 2017) £99 (to LHR, Jun 2017) £109 (July 2018)
  • HAM - €69 (to LHR, April 2017) €79/£69 (from LHR, April/June 2017)
  • HEL – £120 (Apr 2017) (from/to LHR €169, April 2018) £159 (August 2018)
  • IBZ - £69 both ways (June 2016)
  • INN – £79 to INN, €89 to LHR (Feb 2018)
  • INV – £65 (Apr 2017), £79 (Jan 2018)
  • IST - £149 (Jun 2017), £109 (To LHR, Jul 2017), $169 (to LHR December 2018)
  • JER - £79 (Jan 2017), £79 (to LGW, Jul 2017)
  • JMK - £239 (from LHR Jun 2018), £239 (to LHR July 2018)
  • KBP - £179 (Jul 2017)
  • KEF - £169 (Apr 2017). Note system offered £239 but contact centre staff got the cost down!
  • LBA – £59 (both ways, Aug 2017)
  • LCA – £219 (to LHR, Feb 2017)
  • LED - £189 (Oct 2015)
  • LIN – £129 (Feb 2018) (To and From LHR), £129 (May 2018 for Sep), £119 (Jan 2019 from LCY)
  • LIG - £79 both ways (including Eastern operated in one direction) June 2018
  • LIS – £145 (Jan 2017) £85 (to LGW, Feb 2017) £139 (from LHR Nov 2018)
  • LPA - £199 (Dec 2017)
  • LUX -£139 (Nov 2016), £105 (to LUX, Jan 2017), £59 (each way, Mar 2018)
  • LYS - £120 (Dec 2016), £89 (March 2018), £89 (Nov 2018)
  • MAD - €89 MAD-LCY (Feb 2016), £79 LCY-MAD (Jan 2017), £159 LHR-MAD (Apr 2018). €169 LHR-MAD (Mar 2018), £159 MAD-LHR both ways from HBO Y (Oct 2018)
  • MAH - £129 (Jul 2017)
  • MAN - £59 (October 2018) offered in both directions. Same price from LCY (Dec 2018 - both directions)
  • MLA - €119 (Aug 2018)
  • MPL - £130 (Mar 2017)
  • MUC - £119 (Feb 2018)
  • MJV - £70 (Nov 2016 from HBO, also Feb 2017 same price).
  • MRS - £119 (ex-LHR, May 2018). £89 (Jul 2017), £109 (to LHR, Nov 2016 HBO, Weekend Daytrip ex LHR)
  • MXP - £149 (from/to LHR April 2018) £129 (Jun 2017)/ €109 (to LHR, Feb 2017) £99 (To LHR, Aug 2017)
  • NCE - £138 (May 2017), £125/149; £89 (to LHR, May 2017), £149 (from STN, Apr 2017) £89 (from LGW, May 2017, again June 2018) £69 (to LCY, May 2017)
  • NCL - £59 (from/to LHR, Aug 2018)
  • NTE - £80 (Mar 2017)
  • ORY - £85, €89, €119 (Jan 2017)
  • OSL - £129 (Apr 2017) £159 (To LHR, Apr 2017) £124 (NOK1379, OSL->LHR, Dec 2017), £129 (to OSL, Jan 2018 for May), £129 (May 2018 for Aug)
  • OTP - £129 (Nov 2018) usually £202-239,
  • PFO - £119 (Sep 2015)
  • PMI - €205 (Mar 2016, LHR), £69 (from LCY, Jul 2017)
  • PRG - £119 (Nov 2018)
  • PSA - £170 (Apr 2017)
  • PUY - £119 (Apr 2017)
  • RAK - £99 ( May 2018, from LGW) £99 ( Oct 2018, to LGW), £99 (Nov 2018 LHR-RAK)
  • RTM -
  • SOF - £149 (Jun 2017), €185 (to LHR, Feb 2017),
  • STR - £70 (Feb 2017) €115/£99 (to LHR, Jan 2017/Feb 2017) £109 (Either way Nov 2018)
  • SVG - £99 / NOK 720 (Dec 2015),
  • SZG -
  • TFS – €139 (to LGW, Mar 2017)
  • TIA –
  • TLL - £60 (Mar 2017), £79 (Aug 2017 for Nov)
  • TRN - €109 (to LGW Feb 2017)
  • TXL – €120 (to LHR, Feb 2017), £129 (Feb 2018, ex-LHR), €129 (from LHR, Sept 2017), £129 (to LHR, March 2018 for April)
  • UIP -
  • VCE - £89 (Mar 2017), €109 (to LGW, Feb 2016), £119 ex-LHR (Apr 2018)
  • VIE – £110 (Feb 2017) £159 (to LHR, May 2017) €129 (to LHR, April 2018) £129 (to LHR, from a Basic fare, Sept 2018)
  • VRN - €109 (Jul 2017)
  • WAW - £115 (Jan2017) / 475 PLN (£79) (Oct 2015) £109/139 (To LHR, Jun 2017)
  • ZAG - €130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015
  • ZRH – £119 (To LHR, Jun 2017), £131 (Jan 2017) / £69 (from LCY Jan 2016) £69 (LCY July 2017), CHF189/£148 (To LHR, May 2018, Dec 2018)
  • ZTH - £135 (March 2017)


Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUS - WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW £473 (Feb 2015)
  • BOS - WTP £198 (Jul 2017), CW £352 ex-BOS (Jan 2018), CW £352 ex-LHR (Jan 2018)
  • BWI - WTP $248 to BWI / WTP $256 to LHR (Mar 2017), CW $306 to LHR (Jan 2018)
  • DFW - CW $850/£380 (Feb 2017/Mar 2017) £525 (Apr 2017)
  • EWR - WTP $256 (Jan 2016) see also JFK
  • JFK – WTP £279 (Oct 2018) and then down to £238 (Nov 2018) CW £359 (Jul 2017) see also EWR
  • IAD – WTP £190 / £216 (Feb 2017), £269 (Nov 2017) CW $525 (Jul 2017) WTP $171 (May 2018 •• on an Avios booking)
  • LAS – WTP £198 (Aug 2015) CW £416 from WT (Apr 2017)
  • LAX - WTP £195 (Aug 2017), WTP £269 (June 2018)CW £540 (Feb 2015)
  • MEX - WTP £235 (Jan 2017),CW £468 (Jan 2017). F £447 (Oct 2014)
  • MIA - WTP £160 (Aug 2017), CW £420 (Jan 2017)
  • OAK - CW £464 ex LGW (Feb 2018) and £508 (Oct 2018)
  • ORD - CW £473 (Nov 2015)
  • PHL - CW $551/$379 (Apr/May 2017), CW £525 (Feb 2016) F £575 (Feb 2017) CW £330 (Oct 2018)
  • PHX- CW $1,080 (May 2017)
  • SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015), CW $552 (offered Aug, for Dec 2017)
  • SFO - CW $799 (offered Sep 2018 for Oct 2018)
  • SJC - CW $900 (Mar 2017)
  • YUL – CW £549 (Mar 2017)
  • YVR - WTP £209 (Jun 2017), CW £595 (Jan 2017), CW £441 (Aug 2018)
  • YYZ - WTP £168 (Aug 2016), CW £549/449 (May 2017)
  • SEA - WTP $288 (Mar 2018)

Long haul routes from LON to South America and the Caribbean

(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BGI -WTP £180 (Oct 2016)

Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £229 / £240 (Aug 2016), CW £549 (Aug 2016)
  • BOM – WTP £249 (May 2018)
  • BLR – CW £350 (Sep 2017)
  • DEL – WTP £189 (Jan 2017), CW £352 (May 2018)
  • HKG - WTP £165/270 (Mar 2017), CW £486 (Jan, Apr 2017), CW £629 (Seo 2017), CW £820 (June 2018)
  • ICN - WTP £152 (Sep 2016)
  • KUL - F £649 (Feb 2016)
  • NRT - WTP £207 (Apr 2015)
  • PEK - WTP £165 (Apr 2016)
  • PVG – WTP £200 (Mar 2017), CW £460 (Mar 2017)
  • SIN - to LHR - CW £495 (Apr 2017)

Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • LHR-SYD – WTP £159 (Apr 2015)

Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – WTP £105 (Feb 2017) CW £425 (Jan 2017)
  • CAI - WTP £109/155 (May 2017) CW £399 (from WT, Jan 2017)
  • CPT – WTP £92 (Apr 2016)
  • DXB – WTP £119/153 (Jul 2017) CW £425 (Feb 2017) WTP £127 (Aug 2017)
  • JNB - WTP £229 (Feb 2016), CW £540 (Jan 2017), CW £510 (Feb 2017)
  • KWI – WTP £100 (to LHR, Aug2017)
  • MCT - CW £450 (March 2017), CW £522 (Sept 2017)
  • RAK - CE £99 (Dec 2015)
  • TLV - WTP £118 (May 2017) WTP £150 (April 2018)
  • TLV - CW £120 (Sept 2015)


Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – WTP £129 (May 2017); CW £425 (May 2017) WT - WTP £161 (Dec 2018), WTP - CW £161 (Dec 2018
  • BGI - WTP £199 (Oct 2016)
  • BKK - CW £399 (Jul 2017)
  • BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), CW $680 (Mar 2016), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015)
  • BOM - CW £499 (July 2016), CW to F INR 46,665, approx. GBP 530 (29-Jun-18 for 30-Jun-18 1.45am departure)
  • DEL - WTP £209 (Jan 2017)
  • DEN- CW £473 (May 2017
  • DFW - WTP £255 (May 2017) CW $680 (to LHR, Mar 2017)
  • DME - WTP £145 (Apr 2016)
  • DXB – WTP £109 (Jun 2017), CW £350/425 (Mar 2017) WTP £150 (Aug 2017)
  • EWR - CW £473 (Sep 2016) see also JFK
  • GIG – CW £399 (Aug 2016), F £447 (Jan 2015)
  • HKG – WTP £161 (Jan 2015)/ HK$2700 (Mar 2017)
  • HKG - CW £599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April, also offered for May 2016), CW £540 (Jan 2017) CW £697 (May 2018)
  • IAD - CW $780 (Jul 2017) CW £540/485 (Feb/Mar 2017)
  • IAH - WTP £209 (June 2017), CW $850 (June 2017)
  • JFK – WTP £157/£270 (Jan/Apr 2017), WTP $279 (Mar 2017), CW £296/315 (Aug 2017) F £525 (May 2017), F $999 (Jan 2016) see also EWR, CW £501 (Dec 18)
  • JNB - CW £599 (Feb 2017)
  • KWI - WTP £226 (Oct 2018)
  • LAX - WTP £184, CW £599 (Apr 2016)
  • MCT - CW £450 (Mar 2017)
  • MCO - WTP £170 (Mar 2016) WTP £160 (Sept 2017)
  • MEX - CW £447 (Apr 2016)
  • MSY - CW £549 (Apr 2017)
  • MIA - WTP £176 (Nov 2015, CW £420 (Jan 2017)
  • NBO - CW £518 (Jan 2018)
  • OAK - CW £480 (Feb 2018) and £508 (Oct 2018)
  • ORD - WTP £189 (Feb 2016), CW £473 (Nov 2015) increased to £525 in 4 hours.
  • PEK - WTP £198 (Apr 2016), CW £549 (Aug 2015)
  • PHL- CW $579 (Apr 2017)
  • PHX - CW $765 (Feb 2017)
  • SCL - CW £425 (Apr 2017)
  • SEA - WTP £207 (Feb 2016)
  • SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015), $950/970 (Jan 2017), CW £477 (Nov 2017)
  • SFO - F $950, then $855, then back to $950 two days before dep (Feb 2017)
  • SFO - CW: $631 (Feb 2018 flight)
  • SFO - WTP to CW $738 (6/22/18 flight)
  • SIN – WTP £198 (Feb 2017), CW £495 (Jun 2017) WTP - £198 (Jan 2017)
  • SJC - CW £809 (Feb 2017) CW $1,046 (Jun 2017)
  • TLV - WTP £127-136 Jan 2017) $240 (Jun 2016)
  • YUL - WTP £180 (Jun 2016) CW £449 (Mar 2017)
  • YYC - WTP £189 (Aug 2016)
  • YYZ - WTP £189 (July 2016), CW C$723 (Nov 2015), F £499 (Mar 2017)
  • YVR - WTP £209 (Jun 2017)/C$459 (Aug 2017), CW £425 (Mar 2017), F C$900 (Mar 2016)
  • SEA - WTP $319 (Mar 2018)

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Old Jul 4, 18, 10:23 am
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LHR - ATH prices of £149 still current both ways as at July 2018. Effective additional 70TP if you had a cheap economy fare.
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Old Jul 4, 18, 10:59 am
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Might not be appropriate here but by way of comparison - Emirates sporadically offer me Economy to Business Class on the DXB -LHR or LHR - DXB route. They charge $600 USD one way and it's offered when you go to web check in (although I have sometimes received specials at $480 USD one way via email 5-7 days before departure). You don't get lounge access or pick up with these but it is basically a double upgrade from a BA point of view as EK don't have WTP in between.

FYI, I never buy these as flight is only 6-7 hours long and EK is just fine in Eco for this length of time.
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Old Jul 8, 18, 8:20 am
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Am I likely to be targeted on a six leg (return) ex-AMS to BKK? If I go to upgrade on my App I get an error.
Or am I limited to the unlikely chance of reward availability with this type of booking?
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Old Jul 9, 18, 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by Willphipps View Post
Am I likely to be targeted on a six leg (return) ex-AMS to BKK? If I go to upgrade on my App I get an error.
Or am I limited to the unlikely chance of reward availability with this type of booking?
with a more complex booking like that you are probably very unlikely to get offered a POUG on MMB.

in terms of reward availability that is only really relevant to doing a UuA.
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Old Jul 9, 18, 4:42 am
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LHR - OTP BA886 ET to CE UK£129 Sunday July. Gives you 80 TP (gain of 60 from original tkt)
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Old Jul 11, 18, 3:10 am
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Another £129 LHR- ARN from HBO
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Old Jul 11, 18, 7:57 am
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WTP-> CW £599 YYC->LHR Saturday in August 2018, offered in MMB about 6 weeks in advance. Both ways add up to £1300. Will keep watching..

Last edited by Strattonflyer; Jul 11, 18 at 8:08 am Reason: Typo correction
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Old Jul 11, 18, 9:17 am
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LHR-DUB and v.v. offered at £89. Inbound has been available since I made the booking months ago, outbound offered at T-36 or so.
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Old Jul 17, 18, 5:03 am
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Do BA Holidays bookings attract POUG offers in MMB?

We have booked a long weekend in BUD, and would be tempted by an upgrade on the outbound at least.
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Old Jul 17, 18, 5:36 am
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LHR - BSL (Tuesday, July) + BSL - LHR (Monday, July) both £ 129. Offered at £ 115 at OLCI for LHR - BSL. £ 129 have been offered since booking 8 weeks in advance.
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Old Jul 18, 18, 6:59 am
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GLA-LCY

£59 for CE
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Old Jul 21, 18, 11:26 am
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Today I have been offered £59 to upgrade to/from LHR to NCL
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Old Jul 25, 18, 6:17 am
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£225 WTP lgw-fll for my first POUG
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Old Jul 25, 18, 6:49 am
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NCE-LHR €189 July ‘18
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Old Jul 25, 18, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by clarkeysntfc View Post
Do BA Holidays bookings attract POUG offers in MMB?

We have booked a long weekend in BUD, and would be tempted by an upgrade on the outbound at least.
An agent on the Silver line told me they can appear on BA Holidays bookings, but I've never seen one, and have had about 6 BA Holidays trips in the past 2 years...
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