The 2017 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation EC261/2004
Oct 24, 2017, 3:12 am
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May be a bit difficult without names or anything like that.
I assume if you have heard of these cases you may know which they are? Since this is clearly a grey area and lots of folks on here are interested you could be a bit more helpful than just saying "reference the WWW"?
I assume if you have heard of these cases you may know which they are? Since this is clearly a grey area and lots of folks on here are interested you could be a bit more helpful than just saying "reference the WWW"?
Oct 24, 2017, 5:35 am
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KARFA,
You can read the history of many cases here...
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...play.php?f=251
You can read the history of many cases here...
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...play.php?f=251
Oct 24, 2017, 5:45 am
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KARFA,
You can read the history of many cases here...
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...play.php?f=251
You can read the history of many cases here...
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...play.php?f=251
I had thought based on your comments that you were referring specifically to strikes and that you may be aware of some cases where CEDR has ruled that strike action doesn't constitute extraordinary circumstances - is that the case? Can you let us know which cases these are if so?
On Mattt1's case we obviously don't know any details so it is very difficult to be drawing any conclusions.
Oct 24, 2017, 6:24 am
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Thanks Tyzap. However, this is just general threads and comments on every aspect of EC261 compensation.
I had thought based on your comments that you were referring specifically to strikes and that you may be aware of some cases where CEDR has ruled that strike action doesn't constitute extraordinary circumstances - is that the case? Can you let us know which cases these are if so?
On Mattt1's case we obviously don't know any details so it is very difficult to be drawing any conclusions.
I had thought based on your comments that you were referring specifically to strikes and that you may be aware of some cases where CEDR has ruled that strike action doesn't constitute extraordinary circumstances - is that the case? Can you let us know which cases these are if so?
On Mattt1's case we obviously don't know any details so it is very difficult to be drawing any conclusions.
In my second paragraph I was referring to all other CEDR cases, not specifically to do with strikes. It was a general comment about CEDR, and how most airlines force claimants to go down this path unnecessarily.
In Mattt1's case it is not clear, but he seems happy with CEDR who have, presumably, found in his favour. Any possible confidentiality clause would have been enforced by BA's solicitors after the CEDR finding.
Oct 24, 2017, 7:56 am
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No, you have misunderstood what I was saying.
In my second paragraph I was referring to all other CEDR cases, not specifically to do with strikes. It was a general comment about CEDR, and how most airlines force claimants to go down this path unnecessarily.
In Mattt1's case it is not clear, but he seems happy with CEDR who have, presumably, found in his favour. Any possible confidentiality clause would have been enforced by BA's solicitors after the CEDR finding.
In my second paragraph I was referring to all other CEDR cases, not specifically to do with strikes. It was a general comment about CEDR, and how most airlines force claimants to go down this path unnecessarily.
In Mattt1's case it is not clear, but he seems happy with CEDR who have, presumably, found in his favour. Any possible confidentiality clause would have been enforced by BA's solicitors after the CEDR finding.
In an open and shut case my price for agreeing to an NDA would be at least as much again as the EU261 compensation I was due!
Oct 24, 2017, 9:10 am
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No, you have misunderstood what I was saying.
In my second paragraph I was referring to all other CEDR cases, not specifically to do with strikes. It was a general comment about CEDR, and how most airlines force claimants to go down this path unnecessarily.
In Mattt1's case it is not clear, but he seems happy with CEDR who have, presumably, found in his favour. Any possible confidentiality clause would have been enforced by BA's solicitors after the CEDR finding.
In my second paragraph I was referring to all other CEDR cases, not specifically to do with strikes. It was a general comment about CEDR, and how most airlines force claimants to go down this path unnecessarily.
In Mattt1's case it is not clear, but he seems happy with CEDR who have, presumably, found in his favour. Any possible confidentiality clause would have been enforced by BA's solicitors after the CEDR finding.
Are you aware of any decions of CEDR that, when promulgated, are marked ‘confidential’?
Oct 24, 2017, 9:26 am
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BA know that if they offer what you’re looking for as a settlement just prior to the hearing - but with an NDA attached - you’d be mad not to accept.
Anyone with some soft social skills can see what has happened in Matt’s case.
Oct 24, 2017, 9:39 am
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I once read one post from one person on this website who had soft social skills.
Hat, coat,......
Hat, coat,......
Oct 24, 2017, 9:42 am
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Not quite true mate - the county court mediation service will always comes with an NDA from British Airways attached to any offer they make.
BA know that if they offer what you’re looking for as a settlement just prior to the hearing - but with an NDA attached - you’d be mad not to accept.
Anyone with some soft social skills can see what has happened in Matt’s case.
BA know that if they offer what you’re looking for as a settlement just prior to the hearing - but with an NDA attached - you’d be mad not to accept.
Anyone with some soft social skills can see what has happened in Matt’s case.
As for Mattt1’s result, we can only assume what has happened - we cannot be certain. In litigation one shouldn’t assume but rely on fact.
Oct 24, 2017, 9:48 am
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Of course, there's no obligation to accept the County Court Mediation offer, but if they're giving you everything you asked for without having to take a day off work and risk the tiny % of a crazy magistrate then most people would say it's a slam dunk.
Oct 24, 2017, 9:54 am
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It's not necessarily a compromise - in my experiences, BA have always offered up the full amount requested in the claim. Have you had them offer a proportion of what you claimed - and do you think this was because your cases were less assured of a successful judgement?
Of course, there's no obligation to accept the County Court Mediation offer, but if they're giving you everything you asked for without having to take a day off work and risk the tiny % of a crazy magistrate then most people would say it's a slam dunk.
Of course, there's no obligation to accept the County Court Mediation offer, but if they're giving you everything you asked for without having to take a day off work and risk the tiny % of a crazy magistrate then most people would say it's a slam dunk.
Oct 24, 2017, 11:16 am
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