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Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
#3106
Join Date: Aug 2012
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One cancelled due to a tech issue.
http://thebasource.com/tag/cancellations/
#3107
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,254
On BA 99 yesterday to Toronto in J. Crew were lovely and trying their best but service was obviously slow and there were fewer drinks runs than usual and much less proactive service. Starter came with the dessert and cheese already in place. No salad or bread run. Long wait between starter and main. Not the crew's fault as they were clearly down some members but didn't seem very premium either.
#3109
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#3111
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
In terms of who is striking - that's harder to say. Not all of MF is part of the union and not all union members will be striking. Some who went out in January won't be out now for example.
#3113
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 509
On BA 99 yesterday to Toronto in J. Crew were lovely and trying their best but service was obviously slow and there were fewer drinks runs than usual and much less proactive service. Starter came with the dessert and cheese already in place. No salad or bread run. Long wait between starter and main. Not the crew's fault as they were clearly down some members but didn't seem very premium either.
#3114
Join Date: May 2010
Location: London, UK
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Posts: 232
My flight BA459 from MAD - LHR was canceled on the 10th of July. I thought I could claim for compensation for this, but BA is quoting "industrial action" as the reason for the cancellation.
Is there any way of confirming this as the cause?
Is there any way of confirming this as the cause?
#3115
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,680
BA probably think this is a result. Saving on CC costs and not compensating customers for poor 'premium' service.
#3116
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BA459 is the flight operated by MF. It has been fairly consistently cancelled during the strikes. On this occasion I would be surprised if the reason BA gave was wrong, and as you noted no compensation is payable for cancellations due to strikes.
#3117
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Well - just 2 flights cancelled due to the strike yesterday - DOH and back.
One cancelled due to a tech issue.
http://thebasource.com/tag/cancellations/
One cancelled due to a tech issue.
http://thebasource.com/tag/cancellations/
Logically the union should cut their losses now when it's just the matter of a lost battle. Instead they are depleting the union's financial resources and PR goodwill, which increases the likelihood of not just a lost battle but a lost war.
#3118
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It might well be that if customer satisfaction scores dip even further, and complaints rise, that will be seen as a plausible reason to change tack and settle the dispute. If BA undertook a Net Promoter Score exercise on a LH Mixed Fleet route right now, I bet the results wouldn't look stellar, and the longer Mixed Fleet are out the harder it will be for BA to maintain service levels.
#3119
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: London, UK
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...any link between the strike and BA209 (MIA) leaving late from LHR recently?
Today it left 90 minutes later than scheduled...I'll be on it tomorrow with a 90 minutes connection in MIA (....well...good luck with that...)
Today it left 90 minutes later than scheduled...I'll be on it tomorrow with a 90 minutes connection in MIA (....well...good luck with that...)
#3120
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: FLR
Programs: BA Gold, LH Sen, FB Gold
Posts: 504
458/9 has also been canceled for Saturday and a couple of subsequent days. No problem getting rebooked on the earlier flight though, so all fine.
I am glad it is only a CE flight down to MAD - if I were on a CW or F flight, I would be extremely angry at reduced service, especially since there seems no improvement in sight any time soon. But given what I have read about some other positive experiences here, this seems to turn into a lottery now, yet another step down for BA; guess will rather avoid them the rest of the year and get my TP on OW partners....