Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Jul 19, 2017, 6:06 pm
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Am really worried. We are flying from Munich to Heathrow to catch a connecting Malaysia Airlines flight at Night to Kuala Lumpur and we would be in dire straits if there was a strike on the 3rd August with BA.
We are considering flying on Easy Jet now just to avoid this danger...but it would mean flying to potentially Luton, City Airport or Gatwick.
Is it a big hassle getting from either of the 3 airports to Heathrow if we took a lunch time flight into London and then had a 9.50pm flight out of Heathrow Terminal 4?
Just worried about how much travel the kids can handle.
We are considering flying on Easy Jet now just to avoid this danger...but it would mean flying to potentially Luton, City Airport or Gatwick.
Is it a big hassle getting from either of the 3 airports to Heathrow if we took a lunch time flight into London and then had a 9.50pm flight out of Heathrow Terminal 4?
Just worried about how much travel the kids can handle.
Jul 19, 2017, 6:13 pm
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Am really worried. We are flying from Munich to Heathrow to catch a connecting Malaysia Airlines flight at Night to Kuala Lumpur and we would be in dire straits if there was a strike on the 3rd August with BA.
We are considering flying on Easy Jet now just to avoid this danger...but it would mean flying to potentially Luton, City Airport or Gatwick.
Is it a big hassle getting from either of the 3 airports to Heathrow if we took a lunch time flight into London and then had a 9.50pm flight out of Heathrow Terminal 4?
Just worried about how much travel the kids can handle.
We are considering flying on Easy Jet now just to avoid this danger...but it would mean flying to potentially Luton, City Airport or Gatwick.
Is it a big hassle getting from either of the 3 airports to Heathrow if we took a lunch time flight into London and then had a 9.50pm flight out of Heathrow Terminal 4?
Just worried about how much travel the kids can handle.
Lufthansa flies from Munich to Heathrow though
Are these separate bookings of BA MUC-LHR and MH from LHR-KUL? if it is a through ticket for MUC-KUL via LHR, you cannot just go and book another flight and catch up at Heathrow
Jul 19, 2017, 6:17 pm
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The strike is as a result of a number of issues facing Mixed Fleet Crew. Firstly, the expected salary that was advertised when most people started has turned out to be nowhere near what can be acheived. As this was a new Fleet with a completely new way of working, it wasn't easy to get a precedent on how much earnings could have been. New entrants were told before starting that this was meant to be industry rate plus 10% and this has turned out to be untrue. Whilst other areas of the business have also seen their pay adjusted in line with inflation, Mixed Fleet haven't.
There is a huge mistrust of the company and their management and unfortunately they have indicated to the Mixed Fleet union they won't negotiate any further than a 6p an hour pay rise.
There is a huge mistrust of the company and their management and unfortunately they have indicated to the Mixed Fleet union they won't negotiate any further than a 6p an hour pay rise.
How much does the CEO take home as a pay packet every year out of interest?
Jul 19, 2017, 6:20 pm
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If you fly into Gatwick, there is a coach service that will get from Gatwick to Heathrow in under an hour
Lufthansa flies from Munich to Heathrow though
Are these separate bookings of BA MUC-LHR and MH from LHR-KUL? if it is a through ticket for MUC-KUL via LHR, you cannot just go and book another flight and catch up at Heathrow
Lufthansa flies from Munich to Heathrow though
Are these separate bookings of BA MUC-LHR and MH from LHR-KUL? if it is a through ticket for MUC-KUL via LHR, you cannot just go and book another flight and catch up at Heathrow
Yes, separate bookings. We only decided to take the kids to munich last week after securing match tickets for the Audi Cup to watch Liverpool v Bayern Munich.
Will have another look at airfares, etc today.
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Jul 20, 2017, 12:39 am
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Jul 20, 2017, 3:01 am
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Am really worried. We are flying from Munich to Heathrow to catch a connecting Malaysia Airlines flight at Night to Kuala Lumpur and we would be in dire straits if there was a strike on the 3rd August with BA.
We are considering flying on Easy Jet now just to avoid this danger...but it would mean flying to potentially Luton, City Airport or Gatwick.
Is it a big hassle getting from either of the 3 airports to Heathrow if we took a lunch time flight into London and then had a 9.50pm flight out of Heathrow Terminal 4?
Just worried about how much travel the kids can handle.
We are considering flying on Easy Jet now just to avoid this danger...but it would mean flying to potentially Luton, City Airport or Gatwick.
Is it a big hassle getting from either of the 3 airports to Heathrow if we took a lunch time flight into London and then had a 9.50pm flight out of Heathrow Terminal 4?
Just worried about how much travel the kids can handle.
You've got considerably more chance of being delayed by thunderstorms over central Europe - and in this case all airlines would be affected anyway.
Jul 20, 2017, 3:44 am
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Looking at the QR Source, it appears that QR have more than 9 spare aircraft currently as some are doing duties for Royal Air Maroc ...
Jul 20, 2017, 5:29 am
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