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Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
#2716
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Thanks. Given that there haven't been any cancellations to US-bound long haul flights during previous strikes, I don't think I have anything to worry about regarding a cancellation to IAD but please let me know if I'm missing something?
#2717
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I have 10 flights over the period of the proposed strikes, including several on MF routes, and I am not in the slightest bit concerned about getting to my destinations on the days planned.
#2718
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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There were transatlantic flights cancelled during the previous strikes, these were WW routes with more than one flight daily allowing WW crew to operate MF transatlantic routes.
#2719
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 905
I think that advice that c-w-s kindly posted would act as a lovely boilerplate for the wiki! (and actually for many a wiki!). Thank you all for your continuing discussion - fascinating to read.
Last edited by Simon Schus; Jun 24, 2017 at 9:10 am
#2720
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: BA Silver, Mucci
Posts: 5,289
Long haul WW flights have been cancelled during past MF strikes to enable WW crew to operate MF routes.
On July 3rd, all BOS - LHR flights are zeroed out in all classes. They went from plenty of availability to zero instantly. Seat reservations are very light in all cabins. I would put money on at least one of these flights being cancelled and passengers being consolidated on the remaining flight / flights. At the very least, this would cause disruption / delays, especially for connecting passengers.
#2721
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Simply because BA's planning goes from crude to precise only at 3 days out. For example, maybe they zero'd these out before they knew about the Qatar aircraft? We can speculate now, certainly, but what good will that do? It's not a though we can lobby BA to change their minds. The zero'd services may well end up operating.
#2722
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Location: London
Posts: 17,007
When flying on AA flight number but operated by BA. If the flight is cancelled who will be working on my reservation to find me another alternative for the cancelled flight: BA or AA and who I should contact to demand fixing up the mess that I will be in while traveling overseas?
If it is close to departure under airport control then talk to BA.
AA's Sabre feed is always a bit delayed, so I would keep an eye on your Amadeus reservation yourself.
#2723
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 126
Exactly. My guess is, one of the e.g. daily DUS is planned to be cancelled. To protect space, all other flights between LHR and DUS are closed for sale, until the cancellation is confirmed. The passengers will then be shifted to other flights and the non cancelled flights are opened up for sale again.
#2724
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 126
Spotted a few longhaul cancellations, such as:
BA79/01July LHR-MCT
BA80/02July MCT-LHR
BA83/02July LHR-ABV
BA82/03July ABV-LHR
BA125/03July LHR-BAH
BA124/05July BAH-LHR
BA173/04July LHR-JFK
BA112/04July JFK-LHR
BA75/05July LHR-LOS
BA74/05July LOS-LHR
BA133/05July LHR-JED
BA132/06July JED-LHR
BA79/01July LHR-MCT
BA80/02July MCT-LHR
BA83/02July LHR-ABV
BA82/03July ABV-LHR
BA125/03July LHR-BAH
BA124/05July BAH-LHR
BA173/04July LHR-JFK
BA112/04July JFK-LHR
BA75/05July LHR-LOS
BA74/05July LOS-LHR
BA133/05July LHR-JED
BA132/06July JED-LHR
#2725
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#2730
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: UK
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Posts: 740
Are delays more likely than usual during the strikes? Specifically on MF routes LHR to USA?
I'm not worried about cancellations but some of my travel timings that week are tight and so I'm trying to get a feel for risks and a Plan B & C.
I'm not worried about cancellations but some of my travel timings that week are tight and so I'm trying to get a feel for risks and a Plan B & C.