Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
Ballot results for industrial action:
*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.
Current strike period:
- None
Next announced strike period:
Previous strike periods:
- 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
- 10th & 11th January 2017
- 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
- 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
- 17th-20th February 2017
- 22nd-25th February 2017
- 3rd-9th March 2017
- 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
- 1st-16th July 2017
- 19th July-1st August 2017
- 2nd-15th August 2017
- 16th-30th August 2017
Routes affected:
As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).
Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.
Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew
Background Details from BA:
Strike 19th July-1st August
2nd August-16th August
Background Details from Unite:
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/
Latest negotiating position:
Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.
Key upcoming dates:
- Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.
Ballot results for industrial action:
- First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
- Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
- Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
BA 'Mixed Fleet' cabin crew dispute [agreement reached]
Jun 11, 2017, 12:29 pm
#2506
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I don't see how doing something once in 2010/11 can be considered to establish a precedent. As others have said, if it's not in your contract of employment then you shouldn't rely on getting it (best of luck to UNITE in trying to prove otherwise).
I can understand there being some bad feeling that non strikers get the 'benefit' of any deal that UNITE negotiate, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
I can understand there being some bad feeling that non strikers get the 'benefit' of any deal that UNITE negotiate, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Jun 11, 2017, 12:54 pm
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I don't see how doing something once in 2010/11 can be considered to establish a precedent. As others have said, if it's not in your contract of employment then you shouldn't rely on getting it (best of luck to UNITE in trying to prove otherwise).
I can understand there being some bad feeling that non strikers get the 'benefit' of any deal that UNITE negotiate, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
I can understand there being some bad feeling that non strikers get the 'benefit' of any deal that UNITE negotiate, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Jun 11, 2017, 12:58 pm
#2508
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I don't see how doing something once in 2010/11 can be considered to establish a precedent. As others have said, if it's not in your contract of employment then you shouldn't rely on getting it (best of luck to UNITE in trying to prove otherwise).
I can understand there being some bad feeling that non strikers get the 'benefit' of any deal that UNITE negotiate, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
I can understand there being some bad feeling that non strikers get the 'benefit' of any deal that UNITE negotiate, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Jun 11, 2017, 1:14 pm
#2509
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Jun 11, 2017, 1:53 pm
#2510
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They spent a year on strike trying to prevent this in 2010 and were unsuccessful. No guarantee of success this time around.
Jun 16, 2017, 6:08 am
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Jun 16, 2017, 6:48 am
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Ah, great. I have a positioning flight to PRG on Sunday 2nd July for a trip to IAD on 3rd July... Would it be advisable to look at booking a non-BA flight for the Sunday, or should things generally be ok?
Jun 16, 2017, 6:52 am
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Jun 16, 2017, 7:14 am
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Oh well bad news from business traveller, strike in July is on. And I do have a flight booked in that period. Have to wait and see if my flight is affected.