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Old Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
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Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.

*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.

Current strike period:
  • None

Next announced strike period:

    Previous strike periods:
    • 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
    • 10th & 11th January 2017
    • 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
    • 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
    • 17th-20th February 2017
    • 22nd-25th February 2017
    • 3rd-9th March 2017
    • 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
    • 1st-16th July 2017
    • 19th July-1st August 2017
    • 2nd-15th August 2017
    • 16th-30th August 2017

    Routes affected:
    As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).

    Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.

    Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew

    Background Details from BA:
    Strike 19th July-1st August
    2nd August-16th August

    Background Details from Unite:
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/

    Latest negotiating position:
    Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.

    Key upcoming dates:
    • Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.

    Ballot results for industrial action:
    • First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
    • Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
    • Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 10:40 am
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    Originally Posted by Can I help you
    It couldn't have been better timed.
    I wait for the Media to start picking up on it ... why wait until the 16th?
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 10:41 am
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    I'm not sure that there is as much charter capacity out there in June, our schedule is now larger and hopefully there will be more support from MF crew.
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 10:50 am
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    Originally Posted by Can I help you
    I'm not sure that there is as much charter capacity out there in June, our schedule is now larger and hopefully there will be more support from MF crew.
    Or perhaps BA will have to pay more for it
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 10:51 am
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    Originally Posted by cwagsg
    Does anyone know if LGW will be affected this time?
    See the big red text at the top of the page/wiki?

    Mixed Fleet (MF) only operate flights to/from LHR.
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 10:53 am
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    Travelling to Corfu on 18 June - is that a mixed fleet route?
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 10:54 am
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    Waste of time....
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 11:19 am
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    BBC web site has a quote from BA - We had reached a deal on pay, which Unite's national officers agreed was acceptable. We urge Unite to put the pay proposals to a vote of their members

    Was that the case? If so why the strike?
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 11:22 am
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    No, the members very balloted and the deal wasn't accepted.
    The deal is acceptable but those who chose to strike and being penalised which isn't fair.
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 11:58 am
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    What was the ballot result?

    Unite appear to be saying there was one and BA are saying that their wasn't.

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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 12:24 pm
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    56% rejected 44% agreed, 72% return.
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 12:48 pm
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    Originally Posted by Can I help you
    56% rejected 44% agreed, 72% return.
    Thanks. Doesn't seem like there would need to be much movement to tip it over.

    Equally taking strike action would seem to be a gutsy move as previous strikes weren't well supported when the mandate was much bigger.
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 12:52 pm
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    The problem with these strikes is that it never seems to get anywhere or actually gain anything! Best of luck to the Cabin Crew this time 🖒
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 1:25 pm
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    Doh, will be flying on the 16th. I guess no way of knowing at this stage whether will be affected. Anyway, I support the MF union members - IAG profits show that it can afford to pay them a decent wage if the will is there.
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 1:29 pm
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    They have already offered the money, it's the penalties for strikers that is the sticking point.
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    Old Jun 2, 2017, 1:30 pm
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    Originally Posted by Can I help you
    They have already offered the money, it's the penalties for strikers that is the sticking point.
    I'm surprised that's even legal these days, but I admit I know absolutely nothing about the subject.
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