would bring it into line with the rest of European SH which books into ET from WTP+

the main driver behind the change is the connecting J and F customers who now need to buy a coffee on domestic

The service will pick up the improved CE service that is being rolled out later this year

Are they really going to have missing middle seats and a curtain or is this FT speculation?

That is the CE product. I see no value in changing it....

No guarantee of a curtain then!

I do at least 1 CE flight per week and never not had a curtain I still think it's fairly standard.

I'm curious to see how many rows of CE there will be.

On some of the highly utilised domestics the dynamic will be interesting. With empty seats it could presumably be that less people are being flown, however if the pricing is such that the revenue from A-C (after deduction of the cost of drinks and the CE salad) is higher than A-B-C then shareholders will be happy.

I'm wondering what would happen here.
Say you've a full flight from GLA-LHR and 8 people are connecting to F flights.
Are they going to block 4 middle seats and turf 4 paying passengers off that flight to accommodate them?

If I book a GLA-LHR-JFK F flight at short notice, am I going to get a couple of people removed so I can have a middle seat free for "CE" and then could that person claim EU261 for involuntarily being offloaded or something?

Or is it going to be like "Come Fly With Me" where the businessman tells Fearghal on Our Lady Air that he's paid for business class and Fearghal says something like "Oh yes Sir, sorry about that" and proceeds to put a piece of cloth saying "business" over the back of the 3/4 of the way back aisle seat.

Yes, I wonder if UK Business could become a travel class in its own right. 20 TPs no free middle seat and maybe an allowance from the BoB menu? Or a separate cabin. Especially with 767s being phased out why would they reduce capacity - I thought BA's model was like it high and flog it cheap! Have they explicitly said "Club Europe" or "Business Class". The latter is a malleable concept.

Also let's see what enhancements are coming to CE.

Why do you think there will be any difference to the current CE service? BA said it was to introduce Club Europe to its domestic services, Club Europe is an established product and once it is introduced it will operate like every other Club Europe service. It is either CE or it isn't.

BA has been specific in its language - when it has mentioned the introduction of the new service they have consistently referred to it as Club Europe - and that is an established product.

​​​​​​​Csm on my flight from Glasgow this week said it will be CE and that CE is being improved later this year

Surely it will be just like CE in the rest of Europe from that point of view? So if you are in AMS going to an F flight, they will manage the inventory to prevent this from happening: they'll either have the seats in CE or ET available for sale or won't sell the ticket. Sometimes they'll oversell but particularly in Europe it's very rare for this to go wrong. Moreover, by effectively reducing the ET inventory, fares go up.....

In your GLA example, they would statistically know you were going to buy that ticket (before you did) and would have kept xenole's seat ready for his late purchase. When he did this, the CE inventory goes down, and if necessary the ET inventory also goes down, just as it does already from AMS. And often fares for both inventories will then go up. And if all else fails, they'll tell any staff members on Standby to wait for the next flight.

I also agree that this is likely to be a BRU/AMS band 1 style full CE product (not sure about Avios) and expensive standalone unless done with the Saturday night rule. It's actually logistically easier, in some respects, to do that than to operate the current Domestic arrangement, at least in terms of the catering trucks and the table movements. So I don't see any novelties with CE in the UK. EDIT: one possible exception, there is a slight staffing implication with CE getting to a certain size, so on some EDIs they may get an extra crew member as a result of a large CE.

A Club Domestic class seems to be a missed opportunity.

How would you see Club Domestic as different to Club Europe? Different catering?