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Old Oct 6, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Configurations (with links to AeroLOPA seatmaps, where available):

777-200ER
32J 48W 252Y (code 77S)
32J 52W 252Y (code 77T)
14F 48J 40W 134Y (code 77R)
48J 40W 184Y (New Club Suite) (code 77L)
8F 49J 40W 138Y (New Club Suite) (code 77M)

777-300ER
8F 76J 40W 130Y (New Club Suite) (code 77H)


Updated 777 aircraft now in service:

LGW Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-VIIX - 08 March 2018
G-VIIR - 20 April 2018
G-VIIO - 23 May 2018
G-VIIP - 25 June 2018
G-VIIT - 07 October 2018
G-VIIU - 07 November 2018
G-VIIV - 25 January 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-VIIW - 02 April 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMC - 15 May 2019
G-VIIY - 04 June 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMF - 03 October 2019
G-YMMD - 01 November 2019
G-YMMB - 20 November 2019
G-YMME - 14 December 2019
G-YMMA - 14 July 2022

LHR Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-RAES - 08 October 2019
G-VIIL - 31 January 2020
G-VIIK - 02 March 2020
G-VIIM - 20 March 2020
G-VIIN - 14 April 2020
G-VIIB - 25 April 2020
G-VIIF - 15 June 2020
G-VIIS - 12 July 2020
G-VIIC - 08 September 2020
G-STBM - 01 October 2020*
G-STBN - 05 October 2020*
G-YMMI - 08 October 2020
G-VIIG - 28 October 2020
G-STBO - 06 January 2021*
G-STBP - 08 January 2021*
G-VIID - 28 February 2021
G-YMMN - 04 March 2021
G-YMMO - 21 April 2021
G-VIIE - 29 April 2021
G-STBD - 20 July 2021
G-YMMP - 23 July 2021
G-VIIH - 16 August 2021
G-YMMJ - 03 September 2021
G-YMMH - 05 October 2021
G-VIIJ - 29 October 2021
G-VIIA - 14 December 2021
G-YMMG - 07 January 2022
G-YMML - 31 January 2022
G-YMMK - 24 February 2022
G-STBH - 31 March 2022
G-YMMT - 24 May 2022
G-STBG - 14 June 2022
G-STBK - 21 August 2022
G-STBL - 09 October 2022
G-STBJ - 27 November 2022
G-YMMS - 22 February 2023
G-YMMR - 31 March 2023
G-YMMU - 04 May 2023
G-STBA - 24 June 2023
G-STBE - 22 September 2023
G-STBF - 12 December 2023

In Progress at CWL:

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Planned:
G-STBB - TBC (originally planned for March 2021)
G-STBC - TBC (originally planned for July 2021)
G-STBI - TBC
G-VIIV - TBC
G-VIIW - TBC
G-VIIY - TBC

*G-STBM/N/O/P were delivered new with cabins installed; date reflects entry into service rather than re-entry into service
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
The 12 x 777-300ERs at Heathrow are also being converted - roughly half of the 25 777s in total.
Really? When was that said? I thought it was all the 3 class 772s (25 of them right?)
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:43 am
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Actually ignore me, looks like there are 15 3 class 772s.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:45 am
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Originally Posted by Joely
Really? When was that said? I thought it was all the 3 class 772s (25 of them right?)
On the call. The 77Ws (12) and (presumably 13) Gatwick 772s = 25 total.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:45 am
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I'm not surprised.

They will now be my last choice in economy (along with any other over-densified aircraft). I'll still fly the A380 or the older 777s from LHR, if I can be reasonably sure that I will not have the overcrowded aircraft.

The comment in another thread about BA approaching the product level of Norwegian in economy seems quite accurate now - although they also now approach the product level of AA in economy, only without offering MCE seats.

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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
Please can we edit the thread title?

It makes it sound like only the Gatwick fleet is going 10-across. This is not the case.

It is disingenuous to make 'Gatwick' the headline (I agree the slide is misleading) - this is a change that will not merely affect leisure passengers going to Orlando once per year.

The 12 x 777-300ERs at Heathrow are also being converted - roughly half of the 25 777s in total.
Happy for my thread title to be edited.

It seems the configuration shown in the slide is only for LGW, but some LHR 777s (77Ws only?) will also go 10-abreast... and possibly fewer toilets and/or reduced galley space too.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:50 am
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
On the call. The 77Ws (12) and (presumably 13) Gatwick 772s = 25 total.
But there are 14 3 class 772s (according to the BA source)
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by GaxxyFlyer
I would guess they'll get rid of the front galley/cupboards like easyjet/wizz etc. Row 1 won't be quite as nice in future.

But remember, they're not a LCC
Oh God please no. Row 2 it is then. What an absolute horror show.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 4:53 am
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Originally Posted by Joely
But there are 14 3 class 772s (according to the BA source)
Indeed, there are 25 772s with the old IFE/Seats, wouldn't it make sense that all of those are converted?
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by Joely
Indeed, there are 25 772s with the old IFE/Seats, wouldn't it make sense that all of those are converted?
It is possible I misheard 777-200 for -300 on the call.

Either way, it's definitely 100% absolutely not just Gatwick!
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:05 am
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Originally Posted by sts603
Sure, I meant for short haul? That's whats becoming impossibly uncomfortable even in J. And my guess is the wardrobes will go so no coat hanging (which is critical for a business traveler especially in winter).

I already fly QR and CX going east and am moving more of my business back to AA going west (I hate VS's herringbone configuration even more than I hate BA CW).
Short haul ? easyJet and a paid for lounge. What's the point of BA now ?
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:05 am
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Originally Posted by chris1922Mk2
Emirates or Qatar going east, Virgin going west ? Dunno. but as is often said here, a race to the bottom and constant de-valuing of the product. In all classes.
NOT the world's favourite airline, it's not even the UK's favourite.
To fly, to piss you off..........
Bad news then, because Qatar are considering/planning to switch to 10 across in their 777s as well! So best to avoid the 777s in Economy. (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...ng-10-abreast/)


I thought that the A350 was designed to not be able to handle 10 across in Economy, but seems that this is also possible: https://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/20...t-airbus-a350/

So only a matter of time before we see this on other airlines as well!
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by dj_jay_smith
Bad news then, because Qatar are considering/planning to switch to 10 across in their 777s as well! So best to avoid the 777s in Economy. (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...ng-10-abreast/)


I thought that the A350 was designed to not be able to handle 10 across in Economy, but seems that this is also possible: https://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/20...t-airbus-a350/

So only a matter of time before we see this on other airlines as well!
As per my post above - QR did this last year on the 777s and reports back from FTers have been mostly positive (much to the surprise of many!).

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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:08 am
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Presumably they'll be fitting the new Y seats, so that at least will be something. (Perhaps Panasonic IFE too?)

As for the smaller 789 F cabin - down to one row of 4 seats then?
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by chris1922Mk2
Short haul ? easyJet and a paid for lounge. What's the point of BA now ?
Given how bad Y is/will be, I will still find myself in J no matter how bad it is. I just wish there were short haul carriers that had a better product (Air Serbia can't fly you many places!).

Furthermore, living in West London, LHR will always be preferred.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:17 am
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Given how bad Y is/will be, I will still find myself in J no matter how bad it is. I just wish there were short haul carriers that had a better product (Air Serbia can't fly you many places!).
I have no great affinity with BA, I only came here due to the demise of BD and switched my allegiance from *A. I'm "region" based so will normally require a connection to most places in the OW alliance. For long haul, Emirates provide a better network, but have fewer earning partners. My last few flights with BA have actually been domestics, but now that BoB is coming, there is no reason to fly BA, even the measly avios and TP offered have been scaled back.
I have an F redemption booked for May next year, but all i read on here is how even that is not as good as it used to be. Even down to flowers in the loo !
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