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Old Oct 6, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Configurations (with links to AeroLOPA seatmaps, where available):

777-200ER
32J 48W 252Y (code 77S)
32J 52W 252Y (code 77T)
14F 48J 40W 134Y (code 77R)
48J 40W 184Y (New Club Suite) (code 77L)
8F 49J 40W 138Y (New Club Suite) (code 77M)


777-300ER
8F 76J 40W 130Y (New Club Suite) (code 77H)


Updated 777 aircraft now in service:

LGW Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-VIIX - 08 March 2018
G-VIIR - 20 April 2018
G-VIIO - 23 May 2018
G-VIIP - 25 June 2018
G-VIIT - 07 October 2018
G-VIIU - 07 November 2018

G-VIIV - 25 January 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-VIIW - 02 April 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMC - 15 May 2019
G-VIIY - 04 June 2019
(currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMF - 03 October 2019
G-YMMD - 01 November 2019
G-YMMB - 20 November 2019
G-YMME - 14 December 2019
G-YMMA - 14 July 2022

LHR Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-RAES - 08 October 2019
G-VIIL - 31 January 2020
G-VIIK - 02 March 2020
G-VIIM - 20 March 2020
G-VIIN - 14 April 2020
G-VIIB - 25 April 2020
G-VIIF - 15 June 2020
G-VIIS - 12 July 2020
G-VIIC - 08 September 2020
G-STBM - 01 October 2020*
G-STBN - 05 October 2020*

G-YMMI - 08 October 2020
G-VIIG - 28 October 2020
G-STBO - 06 January 2021*
G-STBP - 08 January 2021*

G-VIID - 28 February 2021
G-YMMN - 04 March 2021
G-YMMO - 21 April 2021

G-VIIE - 29 April 2021

G-STBD - 20 July 2021
G-YMMP - 23 July 2021
G-VIIH - 16 August 2021
G-YMMJ - 03 September 2021
G-YMMH - 05 October 2021

G-VIIJ - 29 October 2021
G-VIIA - 14 December 2021

G-YMMG - 07 January 2022
G-YMML - 31 January 2022
G-YMMK - 24 February 2022
G-STBH - 31 March 2022
G-YMMT - 24 May 2022
G-STBG - 14 June 2022
G-STBK - 21 August 2022

G-STBL - 09 October 2022
G-STBJ - 27 November 2022

G-YMMS - 22 February 2023
G-YMMR - 31 March 2023

G-YMMU - 04 May 2023
G-STBA - 24 June 2023
G-STBE - 22 September 2023
G-STBF - 12 December 2023


In Progress at CWL:

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Planned:
G-STBB - TBC (originally planned for March 2021)
G-STBC - TBC (originally planned for July 2021)
G-STBI - TBC
G-VIIV - TBC
G-VIIW - TBC
G-VIIY - TBC


*G-STBM/N/O/P were delivered new with cabins installed; date reflects entry into service rather than re-entry into service
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 3:26 am
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I am on BA2153 in WT+ to BGI in February, which I think is one of the densified models (British Airways B777-200ER 32J/52W/252Y Seat Map).

Does anyone know if the toilets in front of row 10 are J toilets or WT+ toilets? It is coloured green (which matches the rest of the WT+ cabin), but that would leave 32J pax with only 2 toilets between them.
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 6:03 am
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I think that toilet is for WT+ (probably could still used it if need be though) but during my flight to Punta Cana in June sitting in CW i never really noticed any issues with the toilets and whenever i needed to use them i got straight in without any queuing
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Old Oct 15, 2018, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by Agent69
I am on BA2153 in WT+ to BGI in February, which I think is one of the densified models (British Airways B777-200ER 32J/52W/252Y Seat Map).

Does anyone know if the toilets in front of row 10 are J toilets or WT+ toilets? It is coloured green (which matches the rest of the WT+ cabin), but that would leave 32J pax with only 2 toilets between them.
Welcome to densified long haul air travel. If it were only for CW, that would leave 52 WTP pax with no loo in or near their cabin. The 6 loos in WT are already shared by up to 252 pax, and probably to some extent by WTP. Compromise on loo exclusivity will be necessary, as it already is on short haul through the combination of loo removal on some aircraft and the lengthy blocking of the aisle with the BoB trolley.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 8:41 am
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Trust the seat map ?

may have been answered but I can’t find it
for an LGW - MCO booking for May, if the seat map shows the WT+ cabin with lots more rows (newer version) and we pre book seats is that likely to be the aircraft used ? Or can they (are there still) planes with smaller original WT+ cabins that can be substituted
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 8:59 am
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@aircrashsurvivor while obviously all aircraft are subject to change etc etc if you can see a 52 WTP 32 J then chances are that will be your aircraft. I believe there are a couple left to be done but id imagine you getting one at that point would be due to an aircraft going tech or something like that
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by TWCLAM
@aircrashsurvivor while obviously all aircraft are subject to change etc etc if you can see a 52 WTP 32 J then chances are that will be your aircraft. I believe there are a couple left to be done but id imagine you getting one at that point would be due to an aircraft going tech or something like that
thank you. Yes that was essentially my question: understand of course any “reasonable” substitute aircraft is always possible, (and I suppose even an unreasonable one is possible &#128514
With all the new WT+ seats and less CW seats an opup to CW at checkin or at the gate is likely all but eliminated. My kids fly WT+ regularly and have an amazing record of ending up in CW as a single flyer from WT+. Poor things just may have to tolerate WT+ now.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 3:36 pm
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No worreis. I'd say it's always worth asking at the airport. LGW is obviously more leisure orientated so J isn't always as full especially outside of school holidays. When we flew back PUJ-LGW they actually had a proper banner they brought out as they started setting up for check-in promoting AOPs to BC/ J. We were already flying J so no idea what the rates were like. Outbound there were 8 of us 02.09 and on the way back I think it was 12 or 14 in J 13-09 from memory. I think the new 52 WTP cabin detracts from the product and makes it lose some of it's 'special' feel as it's now quite a large cabin. I think with 3-4 rows before was too small but they've maybe gone from one extreme to the other but as it's made J feel more exclusive/ intimate to a degree that's a good thing and at the end of the day they need to fill the space after taking out F and WTP earns them more than filling it with WT/ Econ seats.

While the densified fleet has new seats in WTP & Econ they didnt look that comfy for such a long flight. I went and tried both out on the outbound flight but only for say 10 mins each which isn't really a decent enough time to get a proper gauge( I'm sure ppl who've flown them LH could give a proper opinion) The improved/ newer IFE throughout was def' noticeable and not nearly as laggy.

If they're fairly regular fliers I hope you've given them their own accounts so they can be building up those lifetime TP's
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 6:37 pm
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@TWCLAM, thank you. And yes they have accounts
They have done nearly all their flying between YYZ and LHR but one has now moved to MCO and sontbst will be the home base. I think she was hoping for a smaller WT+ cabin for reasons you stated
we’ve just managed to use avios for a one way up in CW and will see what happens with the other leg.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by aircrashsurvivor
I think she was hoping for a smaller WT+ cabin for reasons you stated
One significant advantage of the new aircraft at LGW for WTP is that the revised cabin now has dedicated crew for WTP. I think this is first time this has been done by BA, and the reports that I've seen on this have been pretty positive. It avoids the current problem that while the meal service is started in WTP, the same crew in other aircraft move on to WT and aren't seen again for quite some time. Moreover if there is the risk of turbulence after take off - entirely possible - so the seatbelt light stays on, then hot drinks (tea, coffee) have to held back until it is safe. By which stage the serving crew could be deep into WT. Having WTP dedicated crew avoids this.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 7:22 pm
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Is F disappearing completely from LGW?
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 7:24 pm
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I have a 772 LHR-YYZ CW flight in mid - November that is a 48J 10 abreast Y 3 class version. I was tempted to go for 5A until I saw it is missing a window so I'll stay in 2A. The later BA99 is also a 772 but 4 class with F not sold. I hope that this route doesn't go all 772 in 2019

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Old Oct 17, 2018, 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Crampedin13A
I have a 772 LHR-YYZ CW flight in mid - November that is a 40J 10 abreast Y 3 class version. I was tempted to go for 5A until I saw it is missing a window so I'll stay in 2A. The later BA99 is also a 772 but 4 class with F not sold. I hope that this route doesn't go all 772 in 2019
I’m so confused by this. If it’s from LHR and/or 40J then it’s 9 abreast Y and not 10. Also it can’t be a 40J as they don’t have a seat (or row) 5. 5A with missing window indicates a 48J aircraft (9 abreast Y and not 10 too) is the one you have.
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Old Oct 18, 2018, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by george77300


I’m so confused by this. If it’s from LHR and/or 40J then it’s 9 abreast Y and not 10. Also it can’t be a 40J as they don’t have a seat (or row) 5. 5A with missing window indicates a 48J aircraft (9 abreast Y and not 10 too) is the one you have.
It was a 4 class 772 originally and it was swapped out a few days ago to this 3 class configuration. The seat map is odd on BA.com in that the first row window which I am in is 2A. The seat map also shows the Y cabin as 3-4-3. My mistake in that it is a 48J/24PE/203Y Here is the seat map from BA Source

British Airways B777-200ER 48J/24W/203Y Seat Map
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Old Oct 18, 2018, 7:39 am
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That seat map is 333 in Y though...this is confusing, there are so many 777 varients!
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Old Oct 18, 2018, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by Flexible preferences
That seat map is 333 in Y though...this is confusing, there are so many 777 varients!
Agreed. I only used that one to show the J cabin. But that one shows 3-3-3 in Y whereas the EF map for my flight shows it 3-4-3 in Y. I used to like the old 3 class 772 as 4A was a good seat but this new 5A with a missing window ruins that. I'm hoping this isn't the new norm on LHR-YYZ but with the removal of F I can see it being so.
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