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Configurations (with links to AeroLOPA seatmaps, where available):

777-200ER
32J 48W 252Y (code 77S)
32J 52W 252Y (code 77T)
14F 48J 40W 134Y (code 77R)
48J 40W 184Y (New Club Suite) (code 77L)
8F 49J 40W 138Y (New Club Suite) (code 77M)

777-300ER
8F 76J 40W 130Y (New Club Suite) (code 77H)

Updated 777 aircraft now in service:

LGW Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-VIIX - 08 March 2018
G-VIIR - 20 April 2018
G-VIIO - 23 May 2018
G-VIIP - 25 June 2018
G-VIIT - 07 October 2018
G-VIIU - 07 November 2018
G-VIIV - 25 January 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-VIIW - 02 April 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMC - 15 May 2019
G-VIIY - 04 June 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMF - 03 October 2019

G-YMMD - 01 November 2019

G-YMMB - 20 November 2019

G-YMME - 14 December 2019

G-YMMA - 14 July 2022

LHR Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-RAES - 08 October 2019
G-VIIL - 31 January 2020

G-VIIK - 02 March 2020
G-VIIM - 20 March 2020
G-VIIN - 14 April 2020
G-VIIB - 25 April 2020
G-VIIF - 15 June 2020
G-VIIS - 12 July 2020
G-VIIC - 08 September 2020
G-STBM - 01 October 2020*
G-STBN - 05 October 2020*
G-YMMI - 08 October 2020
G-VIIG - 28 October 2020
G-STBO - 06 January 2021*
G-STBP - 08 January 2021*
G-VIID - 28 February 2021
G-YMMN - 04 March 2021
G-YMMO - 21 April 2021
G-VIIE - 29 April 2021
G-STBD - 20 July 2021
G-YMMP - 23 July 2021
G-VIIH - 16 August 2021
G-YMMJ - 03 September 2021
G-YMMH - 05 October 2021
G-VIIJ - 29 October 2021
G-VIIA - 14 December 2021
G-YMMG - 07 January 2022
G-YMML - 31 January 2022
G-YMMK - 24 February 2022
G-STBH - 31 March 2022
G-YMMT - 24 May 2022
G-STBG - 14 June 2022
G-STBK - 21 August 2022
G-STBL - 09 October 2022
G-STBJ - 27 November 2022
G-YMMS - 22 February 2023
G-YMMR - 31 March 2023
G-YMMU - 04 May 2023
G-STBA - 24 June 2023
G-STBE - 22 September 2023
G-STBF - 12 December 2023

In Progress at CWL:

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Planned:

G-STBB - TBC (originally planned for March 2021)

G-STBC - TBC (originally planned for July 2021)
G-STBI - TBC
G-VIIV - TBC
G-VIIW - TBC
G-VIIY - TBC

*G-STBM/N/O/P were delivered new with cabins installed; date reflects entry into service rather than re-entry into service

LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards

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Feb 6, 2018, 7:39 am

#301

pauldb

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BA2039 LGW-MCO on 1st April is showing 32J, then oddly 32W and 3-3-3 Y. Has the programme come forward a month (https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...routes-in-s18/ had changes from 7th May)?

I'm travelling 2nd April and was hoping to move to the 1st - will CW be improved in the refit?

Feb 6, 2018, 7:49 am

#302

Globaliser

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This wouldn't be the first report of odd / hybrid / incompletely-changed seat maps. See, for example: Densified 777 LGW seat maps

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Mar 4, 2018, 2:53 pm

#303

TaxiTiger

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Will the IFE in CW be upgraded during the densification? Flying CW for first time LGW-MCO in November 2018. Great forum btw. (First time poster). Thanks in advance.

Mar 4, 2018, 2:59 pm

#304

Can I help you

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Yes I will be, it will be the same Panasonic system as the refurbished B744.

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Mar 4, 2018, 3:00 pm

#305

corporate-wage-slave

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TaxiTiger

Will the IFE in CW be upgraded during the densification? Flying CW for first time LGW-MCO in November 2018. Great forum btw. (First time poster). Thanks in advance.

Welcome to the Forum and welcome to the Flyertalk as well TaxiTiger, and thank you for joining up with us here.

We have been told that the LGW refits will end up with the Panasonic eX3 system in all cabins, which is a big step up from the existing Rockwell Collins system used on LGW's 777s. The eX3 one of the best IFE systems available inflight.

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Mar 4, 2018, 4:16 pm

#306

TaxiTiger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave

Fantastic, thanks for the quick reply. Any idea how long the program will take, in other words, should all the LGW 777's be updated by November?

Mar 4, 2018, 4:56 pm

#307

rockflyertalk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TaxiTiger

Fantastic, thanks for the quick reply. Any idea how long the program will take, in other words, should all the LGW 777's be updated by November?

In a quick answer... No.

It takes 30 days to refit or refurb a 777. The first one just went in, so there might be 8 refurb done by November if all goes to plan. But that’s tough and I can’t remember how many are due for this so ALL is optimistic.

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Mar 4, 2018, 5:44 pm

#308

Beaulieu

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G-VIIX seems to have come back from Singapore on 1st March after its refit so may see it out and about soon.

Mar 5, 2018, 12:36 am

#309

TCX69

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Mar 5, 2018, 1:06 am

#310

pauldb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TCX69

Planned schedule for IIX for the next week:

Slightly odd that all of those (outbounds) show the smaller J cabin but only the first 4 have 3-4-3 Y with the others (and other J-effected flights further out) still showing 3-3-3. I guess if you're travelling Y you need to plan based on the J seat map if you're trying to avoid a 3-4-3. Did wonder, with the lingering odd maps, if they were going to start operating the refurbs as 3-3-3 (crewing issues?) but that now doesn't look to be the case.

Mar 5, 2018, 4:29 am

#311

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TaxiTiger

Fantastic, thanks for the quick reply. Any idea how long the program will take, in other words, should all the LGW 777's be updated by November?

I've seen the following dates given for the refresh - I assume it relates to entry into service date as the first refreshed 777 (IIX) has today's date (5th Mar) given.

3 Class
IIX - 5th March (converted from 4 Class to 3 Class)
IIR - 20th April
IIO - 23rd May
IIP - 25th June
---------------------------
IIT - 7th October
IIU - 6th November

4 Class
IIV - 1st January 2019
IIW - 19th March 2019
IIY - 1st June 2019

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Mar 5, 2018, 5:18 am

#312

StingWest

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Thanks for the detail in these posts.

Wow, after flying United's new densified 777 in economy (and once in C) to/from New Zealand, I can safely say "never again" in economy. I will fly any carrier, make any connection, to avoid those horrible seats again. Haven't had the pleasure on BA yet, but can safely say that it will likely be the same level of comfort (or lack thereof)

I encourage anyone reading this to book away from these - AVOID.

Mar 5, 2018, 5:25 am

#313

firstlight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TCX69

Planned schedule for IIX for the next week:

5/Mar
BA2263 LGW-KIN
BA2262 KIN-LGW

6/Mar
BA2205 LGW-PUJ
BA2204 PUJ-LGW

7/Mar
BA2263 LGW-KIN
BA2262 KIN-LGW

8/Mar
BA2205 LGW-PUJ
BA2204 PUJ-LGW

9/Mar
BA2263 LGW-KIN
BA2262 KIN-LGW

10/Mar
BA2203 LGW-CUN
BA2202 CUN-LGW

11/Mar
BA2205 LGW-PUJ
BA2204 PUJ-LGW

I'm on gviix on March 7th so will see what it looks like and take some pictures if I can

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Mar 5, 2018, 7:31 am

#314

kmccallum13

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I'm off to Bermuda at the end of May on my first First, will be sods law that I get a 3 class there and back!

Mar 5, 2018, 7:55 am

#315

salut0

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave

We have been told that the LGW refits will end up with the Panasonic eX3 system in all cabins, which is a big step up from the existing Rockwell Collins system used on LGW's 777s. The eX3 one of the best IFE systems available inflight.

But does that mean that BA are actually getting rid of those awful electronics boxes that take away a huge amount of the under seat space in economy? If so, then the nastiness of the densities seating may be somewhat mitigated (although I don’t think it will compensate for the reduced space overall). If not, another strike against BA for providing a bad hard product in economy.