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Old Oct 6, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Configurations (with links to AeroLOPA seatmaps, where available):

777-200ER
32J 48W 252Y (code 77S)
32J 52W 252Y (code 77T)
14F 48J 40W 134Y (code 77R)
48J 40W 184Y (New Club Suite) (code 77L)
8F 49J 40W 138Y (New Club Suite) (code 77M)

777-300ER
8F 76J 40W 130Y (New Club Suite) (code 77H)


Updated 777 aircraft now in service:

LGW Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-VIIX - 08 March 2018
G-VIIR - 20 April 2018
G-VIIO - 23 May 2018
G-VIIP - 25 June 2018
G-VIIT - 07 October 2018
G-VIIU - 07 November 2018
G-VIIV - 25 January 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-VIIW - 02 April 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMC - 15 May 2019
G-VIIY - 04 June 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMF - 03 October 2019
G-YMMD - 01 November 2019
G-YMMB - 20 November 2019
G-YMME - 14 December 2019
G-YMMA - 14 July 2022

LHR Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-RAES - 08 October 2019
G-VIIL - 31 January 2020
G-VIIK - 02 March 2020
G-VIIM - 20 March 2020
G-VIIN - 14 April 2020
G-VIIB - 25 April 2020
G-VIIF - 15 June 2020
G-VIIS - 12 July 2020
G-VIIC - 08 September 2020
G-STBM - 01 October 2020*
G-STBN - 05 October 2020*
G-YMMI - 08 October 2020
G-VIIG - 28 October 2020
G-STBO - 06 January 2021*
G-STBP - 08 January 2021*
G-VIID - 28 February 2021
G-YMMN - 04 March 2021
G-YMMO - 21 April 2021
G-VIIE - 29 April 2021
G-STBD - 20 July 2021
G-YMMP - 23 July 2021
G-VIIH - 16 August 2021
G-YMMJ - 03 September 2021
G-YMMH - 05 October 2021
G-VIIJ - 29 October 2021
G-VIIA - 14 December 2021
G-YMMG - 07 January 2022
G-YMML - 31 January 2022
G-YMMK - 24 February 2022
G-STBH - 31 March 2022
G-YMMT - 24 May 2022
G-STBG - 14 June 2022
G-STBK - 21 August 2022
G-STBL - 09 October 2022
G-STBJ - 27 November 2022
G-YMMS - 22 February 2023
G-YMMR - 31 March 2023
G-YMMU - 04 May 2023
G-STBA - 24 June 2023
G-STBE - 22 September 2023
G-STBF - 12 December 2023

In Progress at CWL:

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Planned:
G-STBB - TBC (originally planned for March 2021)
G-STBC - TBC (originally planned for July 2021)
G-STBI - TBC
G-VIIV - TBC
G-VIIW - TBC
G-VIIY - TBC

*G-STBM/N/O/P were delivered new with cabins installed; date reflects entry into service rather than re-entry into service
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:17 am
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Posted this in the wrong thread:
In terms of the 10 abreast 777s, I can't believe FTers are surprised.

The competition have been doing it since last year, so it was surely only a matter of time before BA followed suit.

In terms of the 787-9s, the report seems to say less F on those. Does that mean we'll see aircraft with one solitary row of F?

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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:18 am
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Surprised by the outrage here - thought nobody on this forum ever travels in Y?
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
In terms of the 787-9s, the report seems to say less F on those. Does that mean we'll see aircraft with one solitary row of F?

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I read that to mean that more 787-9s are arriving (with current config) and they have smaller F cabin than the aircraft they are replacing. I didn't read it that they are reducing the current 8 seats.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by chazman189
Surprised by the outrage here - thought nobody on this forum ever travels in Y?
One can still have feelings for one's fellow man, surely?
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by chazman189
Surprised by the outrage here - thought nobody on this forum ever travels in Y?
I do 100k miles a year down the back, company policy, but yes in general most folks round these parts consider us down the back as ballast.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:24 am
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I earn my TPs in J & F (when someone else is paying); I spend the Avios in J when Mrs R is travelling with me, but often in W or Y even for long-haul if it's just with friends - came back rom DFW in Y the other week - with the right seat selection, I actually found Y pretty comfortable and a decent product on the 77W - suspect with 10 abreast my view would change....(flew out for that trip in W on a 787; the 9-abreast tight Y seats down the back looked horrendous)
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by Joely
I do 100k miles a year down the back, company policy, but yes in general most folks round these parts consider us down the back as ballast.
I appreciate your contribution to keeping the aircraft within trim limits, Sir.

And I am aware that a lot of folks round here have a company Y travel policy, so you are not alone.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Posted this in the wrong thread:
In terms of the 10 abreast 777s, I can't believe FTers are surprised.

The competition have been doing it since last year, so it was surely only a matter of time before BA followed suit.
+1, as I've been saying for a while. However the loss of 2 toilets is a major negative!

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In terms of the 787-9s, the report seems to say less F on those. Does that mean we'll see aircraft with one solitary row of F?
Think you're misreading that. Point is that paying F load factor is low on current fleet (i.e. 12/14/17 F on 777/747) but 789 addresses that by having a smaller cabin of 8.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:30 am
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I see nothing wrong with it, as long as they keep you fed and watered. Oh no, wait!
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1
+1, as I've been saying for a while. However the loss of 2 toilets is a major negative!

Think you're misreading that. Point is that paying F load factor is low on current fleet (i.e. 12/14/17 F on 777/747) but 789 addresses that by having a smaller cabin of 8.
I see what you mean about the 789s in terms of wording.

I think you're right, and I have misinterpreted...but it leads to another intriguing question.

I think AF restrict F redemptions to Flying Blue Platinum level only - as they only ever have a maximum of 8 (minimum of 4) F seats in the cabin.

Would BA follow suit, and allow only GCH/GGLs to redeem in F?

Probably not a conversation for today, but a thought nonetheless.

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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:36 am
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Making the 77Ws is a bit cruel as they are used on the ultra long haul Kangaroo route. Ouch!
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:38 am
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Hopefully they'll be cleaning the LGW 777s too. Absolutely disgusting level of filthiness on our last two flights.
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by chris1922Mk2
Bye bye BA, it's been nice...........
Agree - this absolutely is the final straw for BA with me - I think I may well use up the rest of my Avios and be done with it.

easyjet really are a much better alternative these days, great crew and BoB with reasonable prices. Cruz want's to make an airline - which represents such an incredible nation of class - to something that is the pits, and I now refuse to pay any money to a company that wants to do that - even Ł35 for a RFS...
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Old Nov 4, 2016, 5:46 am
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I think this occurred years ago on certain leisure routes?

Not great for those sitting there but it appears to be the industry norm?
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Well, they've got to make up the money from the 10% discount for old soldiers some how
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