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Configurations (with links to AeroLOPA seatmaps, where available):

777-200ER
32J 48W 252Y (code 77S)
32J 52W 252Y (code 77T)
14F 48J 40W 134Y (code 77R)
48J 40W 184Y (New Club Suite) (code 77L)
8F 49J 40W 138Y (New Club Suite) (code 77M)

777-300ER
8F 76J 40W 130Y (New Club Suite) (code 77H)

Updated 777 aircraft now in service:

LGW Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-VIIX - 08 March 2018
G-VIIR - 20 April 2018
G-VIIO - 23 May 2018
G-VIIP - 25 June 2018
G-VIIT - 07 October 2018
G-VIIU - 07 November 2018
G-VIIV - 25 January 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-VIIW - 02 April 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMC - 15 May 2019
G-VIIY - 04 June 2019 (currently operating from LHR)
G-YMMF - 03 October 2019

G-YMMD - 01 November 2019

G-YMMB - 20 November 2019

G-YMME - 14 December 2019

G-YMMA - 14 July 2022

LHR Based Aircraft:
Completed (re-entry to service date):
G-RAES - 08 October 2019
G-VIIL - 31 January 2020

G-VIIK - 02 March 2020
G-VIIM - 20 March 2020
G-VIIN - 14 April 2020
G-VIIB - 25 April 2020
G-VIIF - 15 June 2020
G-VIIS - 12 July 2020
G-VIIC - 08 September 2020
G-STBM - 01 October 2020*
G-STBN - 05 October 2020*
G-YMMI - 08 October 2020
G-VIIG - 28 October 2020
G-STBO - 06 January 2021*
G-STBP - 08 January 2021*
G-VIID - 28 February 2021
G-YMMN - 04 March 2021
G-YMMO - 21 April 2021
G-VIIE - 29 April 2021
G-STBD - 20 July 2021
G-YMMP - 23 July 2021
G-VIIH - 16 August 2021
G-YMMJ - 03 September 2021
G-YMMH - 05 October 2021
G-VIIJ - 29 October 2021
G-VIIA - 14 December 2021
G-YMMG - 07 January 2022
G-YMML - 31 January 2022
G-YMMK - 24 February 2022
G-STBH - 31 March 2022
G-YMMT - 24 May 2022
G-STBG - 14 June 2022
G-STBK - 21 August 2022
G-STBL - 09 October 2022
G-STBJ - 27 November 2022
G-YMMS - 22 February 2023
G-YMMR - 31 March 2023
G-YMMU - 04 May 2023
G-STBA - 24 June 2023
G-STBE - 22 September 2023
G-STBF - 12 December 2023

In Progress at CWL:

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Planned:

G-STBB - TBC (originally planned for March 2021)

G-STBC - TBC (originally planned for July 2021)
G-STBI - TBC
G-VIIV - TBC
G-VIIW - TBC
G-VIIY - TBC

*G-STBM/N/O/P were delivered new with cabins installed; date reflects entry into service rather than re-entry into service

LGW & LHR selected 777s go 10-abreast (3-4-3) in Y 2018 onwards

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Jan 2, 2018, 2:13 pm

#271

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Is this not something BA used to do in house? More outsourcing a la Accenture? Snr Cruz is not departing far from the playbook.

Jan 2, 2018, 2:44 pm

#272

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianDromey

I think all 777-200s are becoming 3 class aircraft, or at least 25 of them are.

so F on the 77W will be no more?

Jan 2, 2018, 3:02 pm

#273

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Originally Posted by SussexFly

so F on the 77W will be no more?

The 77W is not a 777-200.

Jan 2, 2018, 3:19 pm

#274

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Globaliser

The 77W is not a 777-200.

Oops my mistake - 777-200 then - the 4 class version of the 777-200 will be no more?

Jan 2, 2018, 3:27 pm

#275

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SussexFly

Oops my mistake - 777-200 then - the 4 class version of the 777-200 will be no more?

The LHR based (G-VIIx) aircraft will remain 4 class, I believe.

Jan 2, 2018, 3:28 pm

#276

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SussexFly

Oops my mistake - 777-200 then - the 4 class version of the 777-200 will be no more?

To recap from earlier, it seems the LGW 3-class fleet (GE-powered) will be converted, and the entire RR fleet (including LHR based 3 and 4 class aircraft). 3 LGW-based 777s will retain 4-class layouts for BGI etc. though no word whether their 2000-vintage WT/WTP cabins will linger on or not.

The 4-class recently refitted LHR-based 777-200s (GE-powered) aren't affected by this refit announcement. Yet.

Jan 2, 2018, 3:52 pm

#277

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I flew Y on AC 77W recently with the 10 across in Y for the first time and there was no noticeable difference to previous experiences in terms of seat. In fact, it took me a while to realise that these are 9 across on BA.

Is the 77W wider than the 772 or would the seat be the same on the new densified aircraft?

Jan 2, 2018, 3:59 pm

#278

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Which reminds me, there has been an update to the planned routes and frequencies with the densified 772s. This was published several weeks ago, but don't recall seeing it posted here yet. Additionally, the routes which will feature these aircraft next winter are also shown.

The below is from routesonline.com and the full article can be found at

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...tish%20Airways

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London Gatwick – Cancun eff 12MAY18 1 weekly (Day 6; 3 weekly Day 136 from 11JUN18, instead of 20JUN18)
London Gatwick – Ft. Lauderdale eff 13SEP18 1 weekly (Day 4; 3 weekly Day 146 from 08OCT18 to 28OCT18, 2 weekly Day 46 from 29OCT18)
London Gatwick – Kingston eff 07MAY18 2 weekly (Day 13; Day 15 from 14SEP18, 3 weekly Day 135 from 10OCT18)
London Gatwick – New York JFK eff 08JUL18 1 daily
London Gatwick – Orlando eff 11MAY18 1 weekly BA2037/2036 (Day 5; 2 weekly Day 56 from 08JUN18 to 08SEP18; 1 weekly Day 6 15SEP18 – 29SEP18, gradually increasing to daily by 06OCT18
London Gatwick – Punta Cana eff 08MAY18 3 weekly (Day 247)
London Gatwick – Tampa eff 07JUN18 2 weekly (Day 47; up to 5 weekly Day x13 by 09OCT18, Day x67 from 29OCT18)

New HD 777 operational routes/flights for winter 2018/19 season (currently listed until second week of Nov 2018):
London Gatwick – Antigua – Providenciales eff 28OCT18 2 weekly (Day 47)
London Gatwick – Antigua – Tobago eff 29OCT18 2 weekly (Day 15)
London Gatwick – Barbados eff 28OCT18 2 weekly (Day 67)
London Gatwick – St. Lucia – Grenada eff 03NOV18 1 weekly (Day 6)
London Gatwick – St. Lucia – Port of Spain eff 28OCT18 2 weekly (Day 27)

Jan 2, 2018, 4:01 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skipness1E

Is this not something BA used to do in house? More outsourcing a la Accenture? Snr Cruz is not departing far from the playbook.

This was something that struck my mind, as I’m sure the 747 refresh completed in 2016 was done at that place near or in Wales (I forget the exact location?!) So is this now outsourced to SIN? i.e Singapore? Is that correct? Why is that?

Jan 2, 2018, 4:08 pm

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Originally Posted by rockflyertalk

So is this now outsourced to SIN? i.e Singapore? Is that correct? Why is that?

yep SIN as in singspore.
not sure why.

the first A321 has gone to Prestwick to be densified, yet the 777 has gone to SIN

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Jan 3, 2018, 12:55 am

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Originally Posted by SussexFly

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Originally Posted by rockflyertalk

yep SIN as in singspore.
not sure why.

I don't know why, either. However, we shouldn't forget that the noises from Capital Markets Day included a suggestion that more 747s will be getting refreshed and/or reconfigured. I am purely speculating here, but if CWL has already got the embedded experience and know-how for that, then it may make more sense for that line of work to go to CWL again (in addition to its normal workload of more routine maintenance) and for a separate discrete programme of conversions to go somewhere else that has capacity.

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Jan 3, 2018, 1:03 am

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Oh. BA copycat CX is to start reconfiguring their 777s starting March https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...rd-coming.html

And we're getting BoB too https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...rd-coming.html

Jan 3, 2018, 1:22 am

#283

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockflyertalk

Cardiff is very much alive and well, but has no more spare capacity to do the LGW job. LHR had one Heavy line but it was closed in 2016 as the costs were too high, and the hangar space was needed for the normal maintenance. Hence the refit has been contracted to the same guys, I believe, that used to do the 380 maintenance before it was moved to LH Technik in Manila.

Jan 3, 2018, 1:58 am

#284

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Originally Posted by frenzie01

If you like turbulence and the toilet, the twin paired seats at the back are great.
It also makes choosing your meal easier, as there will be one choice for you.

Enjoy!

I have partially remedied the solution as 2 CW seats appeared over the Xmas period for redemption. I snagged them (by complete luck checking availability on Boxing day lunchtime).

So my booking for me and my son is in CW. However, I need to work hard to upgrade my other son and my wife who are still in economy.

Jan 3, 2018, 3:17 am

#285

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It must be considerably cheaper to get the maintenance done out in the Far East - positioning a 777 to SIN or A380 to Manila can’t be cheap - yet still cheaper than doing maintenance in the UK/Europe.

However, The 777-300’s are sent to FRA for maintenance,

i believe some of the A380’s operate out to SIN then position to Manila though and swap with an A380 that was in maintenance out there.