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Can I help you Sep 29, 16 3:07 am

Buy on board: Implemented on BA short haul - opinions on the concept
 
Just been announced, M&S food, all under £5 to be starting in January.

r00ty Sep 29, 16 3:09 am


Originally Posted by Can I help you (Post 27278244)
Just been announced, M&S food, all under £5 to be starting in January.

I know the answer is probably yes. But, I have to ask. Including water?

Can I help you Sep 29, 16 3:14 am

A full drinks menu and bar service will be available for purchase.

Quarky Quark Sep 29, 16 3:15 am


Originally Posted by Can I help you (Post 27278244)
Just been announced, M&S food, all under £5 to be starting in January.

Thanks CIHY at least we can say we heard it here first :p

I look forward with interest to see how this is a) announced and b) received, especially among the general travelling public.

r00ty Sep 29, 16 3:18 am


Originally Posted by Can I help you (Post 27278252)
A full drinks menu and bar service will be available for purchase.

Damn, that's a real shame. But, worst case is buying some from boots on the way on.

Many thanks for giving us the scoop on this.

Can I help you Sep 29, 16 3:19 am

Soft drinks from £1.50 and alcohol from £4, payment by debit card or credit cards and contactless transactions, you can also pay with Avios.

Quarky Quark Sep 29, 16 3:20 am

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Posting this for posterity :)
Also, shall we take bets on how long it takes to update the website?

simons1 Sep 29, 16 3:22 am

The airport shops must be delighted as a percentage of people will bring on board (and then leave their rubbish for the crew to clear up).

Flexible preferences Sep 29, 16 3:23 am


Originally Posted by Can I help you (Post 27278244)
Just been announced, M&S food, all under £5 to be starting in January.

Sounds like a good high quality food brand to use. Pricing OK too - cheaper than the AA options linked to by elitetraveller.

TCX69 Sep 29, 16 3:29 am

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Andriyko Sep 29, 16 3:31 am

Judging by the 'under GBP5' prices, there will be no hot options?

JumboJim Sep 29, 16 3:32 am

BA have already updated the catering section of its website:

London Heathrow and London Gatwick

From 11 January, we’re upgrading our food offering in our short haul economy cabins (Euro Traveller and UK Domestic) on flights to and from London Heathrow and London Gatwick.
We’re proud to be partnering with Marks & Spencer, another iconic British brand, to offer you a new 'M&S on board' menu that will replace the complimentary service currently provided. You will be able to select from the seasonally inspired menu and buy your food and drinks in one easy transaction.

M&S on board sample menu
Enjoy delicious sweet and savoury treats from British food favourite Marks & Spencer when travelling in our short haul economy cabins, Euro Traveller and UK Domestic, to and from London Heathrow and London Gatwick.
Here are just some of the exciting food options you can look forward to on board.
Fresh food

Classic Fruit Salad £3.10
Includes pineapple, melon, mango, apple, kiwi and blueberries.
Yogurt with Summer Berry Compote and Crunchy Granola - £1.95
Reduced-fat Greek-style yogurt, blackberry and blackcurrant compote and granola with sunflower and pumpkin seeds.

Mature Cheddar Cheese Ploughman's - £3.00
Farmhouse cheddar cheese with vine-ripened tomatoes, pickle and lettuce on malted brown bread
Aberdeen Angus Beef and Red Onion Chutney Bloomer - £4.75
Soft onion bloomer with Aberdeen Angus beef, red onion chutney and tangy mustard.

Bacon Roll - £4.75
A soft white, buttered roll filled with succulent smoked British bacon. Served hot.
Mozzarella and Tomato Focaccia - £4.75
Buffalo mozzarella, juicy vine-ripened tomatoes and fragrant basil pesto dressing on pesto focaccia. Served hot.

Spiced Chicken with Quinoa and Rice - £4.95
Spiced chicken with quinoa, rice and a smoky tomato salsa.

Savoury snacks
Oriental Snack Mix - £2.00
Sesame-coated roasted cashew nuts, edamame soybeans, and roasted corn with puffed brown rice all with a soy and five-spice seasoning.
Hand Cooked Crisps - £1.00
Salt and Vinegar, or Lightly Sea Salted.

Nut Assortment - £1.60
A selection of almonds, brazil nuts, cashew nuts and hazelnuts.
Wasabi Peas - £1.60
Roasted green peas with a punchy wasabi flavoured coating.

Something sweet
Percy Pig - £1.85
Soft fruit-flavoured gums made with fruit juice…an M&S classic.
Salted Caramel Hazelnut Millionaire Biscuit - £1.45
Made without wheat and deliciously gluten free.
Chocolate Pretzels and Candy Popcorn - £2.45
Milk chocolate-covered toffee popcorn with popping candy pieces.
Super Nut Fruit and Seed Flapjack - £1.45
Soft, chewy all-butter flapjack.

JumboJim Sep 29, 16 3:34 am

And the drinks:

Drinks menu

Choose from a wide range of hot or cold drinks when travelling in our short haul economy cabins, Euro Traveller and UK Domestic, to and from London Heathrow and Gatwick.
Here are some examples of what you can enjoy during your flight. For allergen information, please see the on-board menu or packaging.

Hot drinks
Java Republic Coffee - £2.30
Twinings Tea - £2.30
Cadburys Hot Chocolate - £2.70
Soft drinks
Pip Organic Orange & Apple Juice (200ml) - £2.70
Vita Coco Coconut Water (330ml) - £2.70
Folkington's Elderflower Presse (250ml) - £2.20
Appletiser (275ml) - £1.80
Harrogate Still or Sparkling Water (500ml) - £1.80
Coca Cola or Diet Coke (330ml) - £1.80
Alcoholic drinks
Spirits (5cl mini bottles) - £4.50
Assorted range including Bombay Sapphire, Johnny Walker Red, Smirnoff Red, Baileys Irish Cream, Bacardi and Jack Daniels.
Mixers (150ml mini bottles) - £1.50
Assorted range including Schweppes tonic water, slimline tonic and ginger ale.
Red or white wine (187ml) - £4.50
Prosecco Bottega Gold (200ml) - £6.00
London Pride (330ml) - £4.00
Becks Lager (330ml) - £4.00
Magners Original Cider (330ml) - £4.00

cosmo74 Sep 29, 16 3:34 am

I'm guessing there's been no announcement about how much flight prices are being reduced by to 'compensate' for the loss of the free food and drink service?

ajbrowc Sep 29, 16 3:39 am

Any news on how existing bookings will be dealt with? My flight already booked on 3rd September 2017 states complimentary food and bar service.

BahrainLad Sep 29, 16 3:40 am

Only in BA land could "upgrade" mean taking away something that used to be for free and charging almost £5 for a beef sarnie and £6 for a G&T.

gorps1 Sep 29, 16 3:40 am


Originally Posted by Andriyko (Post 27278291)
Judging by the 'under GBP5' prices, there will be no hot options?

The menu suggests the bacon roll will be served hot.

ba_cityflyer Sep 29, 16 3:40 am

£1.80 for a water?

Bye bye, BA. No more short-haul revenue from me.

englisha Sep 29, 16 3:41 am

I wonder how this will effect existing bookings which were sold with drinks and food included?

pdsuk Sep 29, 16 3:41 am


Originally Posted by JumboJim (Post 27278292)
BA have already updated the catering section of its website:

London Heathrow and London Gatwick

From 11 January, we’re upgrading our food offering in our short haul economy cabins (Euro Traveller and UK Domestic) on flights to and from London Heathrow and London Gatwick.
We’re proud to be partnering with Marks & Spencer, another iconic British brand, to offer you a new 'M&S on board' menu that will replace the complimentary service currently provided. You will be able to select from the seasonally inspired menu and buy your food and drinks in one easy transaction.

M&S on board sample menu
Enjoy delicious sweet and savoury treats from British food favourite Marks & Spencer when travelling in our short haul economy cabins, Euro Traveller and UK Domestic, to and from London Heathrow and London Gatwick.
Here are just some of the exciting food options you can look forward to on board.
Fresh food

Classic Fruit Salad £3.10
Includes pineapple, melon, mango, apple, kiwi and blueberries.
Yogurt with Summer Berry Compote and Crunchy Granola - £1.95
Reduced-fat Greek-style yogurt, blackberry and blackcurrant compote and granola with sunflower and pumpkin seeds.

Mature Cheddar Cheese Ploughman's - £3.00
Farmhouse cheddar cheese with vine-ripened tomatoes, pickle and lettuce on malted brown bread
Aberdeen Angus Beef and Red Onion Chutney Bloomer - £4.75
Soft onion bloomer with Aberdeen Angus beef, red onion chutney and tangy mustard.

Bacon Roll - £4.75
A soft white, buttered roll filled with succulent smoked British bacon. Served hot.
Mozzarella and Tomato Focaccia - £4.75
Buffalo mozzarella, juicy vine-ripened tomatoes and fragrant basil pesto dressing on pesto focaccia. Served hot.

Spiced Chicken with Quinoa and Rice - £4.95
Spiced chicken with quinoa, rice and a smoky tomato salsa.

Savoury snacks
Oriental Snack Mix - £2.00
Sesame-coated roasted cashew nuts, edamame soybeans, and roasted corn with puffed brown rice all with a soy and five-spice seasoning.
Hand Cooked Crisps - £1.00
Salt and Vinegar, or Lightly Sea Salted.

Nut Assortment - £1.60
A selection of almonds, brazil nuts, cashew nuts and hazelnuts.
Wasabi Peas - £1.60
Roasted green peas with a punchy wasabi flavoured coating.

Something sweet
Percy Pig - £1.85
Soft fruit-flavoured gums made with fruit juice…an M&S classic.
Salted Caramel Hazelnut Millionaire Biscuit - £1.45
Made without wheat and deliciously gluten free.
Chocolate Pretzels and Candy Popcorn - £2.45
Milk chocolate-covered toffee popcorn with popping candy pieces.
Super Nut Fruit and Seed Flapjack - £1.45
Soft, chewy all-butter flapjack.

My bolding and other font changes.

Fantastic !!!!!!!!!!!!

Percy Pigs are the best ...........

Ldnn1 Sep 29, 16 3:42 am

£6 for a G&T. Wonderful. :(

Main question though - not answered in the FAQ - is what about existing bookings for flights post January? I am certainly of the view that complimentary food and drink is part of the contract for tickets already bought.

rossmacd Sep 29, 16 3:42 am


Originally Posted by englisha (Post 27278312)
I wonder how this will effect existing bookings which were sold with drinks and food included?

You will be given the two fingers, I expect, which is normal behaviour for BA at present.

Airprox Sep 29, 16 3:42 am


Originally Posted by TCX69 (Post 27278289)
For anyone wondering about Club Europe:

“Club Europe (short-haul business class) customers will continue to be offered a full, complimentary menu, which is being improved and revamped from spring 2017 as part of the changes to short-haul catering. Further details will be released on the changes nearer the time.” ^

This concerns me more than BoB in Y.

r00ty Sep 29, 16 3:43 am


Originally Posted by englisha (Post 27278312)
I wonder how this will effect existing bookings which were sold with drinks and food included?

Those of us with existing bookings will be lucky enough to be included in this catering upgrade.

smokie36 Sep 29, 16 3:44 am

To me for economy that is a catering improvement as I hate BA's food offering as is.

That includes the sorry excuse for a breakfast they currently serve.

£4.75 for a bacon roll is steep, I wonder how that is going to sell on the red eye lol.

Arctic Troll Sep 29, 16 3:45 am


Originally Posted by Ldnn1 (Post 27278317)
Main question though - not answered in the FAQ - is what about existing bookings for flights post January? I am certainly of the view that complimentary food and drink is part of the contract for tickets already bought.

Instead of the two fingers of whiskey, you'll just get the two fingers.

Using BA's prices, my G&T and crisps on UK Domestic is worth just under a tenner. I shall wait with baited breath for UK Domestic fares to decrease by a tenner.

Meanwhile, I'll be transferring my business back to Virgin Trains...

Roger Sep 29, 16 3:46 am

The info seems to relate to LHR and LGW routes.

Any info on LCY routes?

r00ty Sep 29, 16 3:46 am


Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer (Post 27278311)
£1.80 for a water?

Bye bye, BA. No more short-haul revenue from me.

Better than some other LCCs though. I once paid £6 for effectively 1L of water (which I very much needed). It's still quite sad though.

rossmacd Sep 29, 16 3:47 am


Originally Posted by Roger (Post 27278331)
The info seems to relate to LHR and LGW routes.

Any info on LCY routes?

The FAQ states LCY and STN routes will switch in Summer 2017.

Strawb Sep 29, 16 3:47 am

What's in it for BA status members?

KARFA Sep 29, 16 3:47 am

I think there was some suggestion status passengers would get something for free. Any information on that?

JumboJim Sep 29, 16 3:47 am

My question is whether BAEC Golds & OWEs and above will get a complimentary drink and snack as happens to Executive Platinum & OWE members on AA?

Arctic Troll Sep 29, 16 3:49 am


Originally Posted by Strawb (Post 27278336)
What's in it for BA status members?

You get to use the app to pay with Avios?

You didn't think Cruz was going to give high status pax something for free did you? :D

cosmo74 Sep 29, 16 3:49 am

LCY and STN flights are at least not being impacted until 'Summer 2017'.

Funnily enough, there is no mention in the FAQ's about what happens to existing bookings - I'd suggest anyone impacted tweets BA to see what they have to say

IAMORGAN Sep 29, 16 3:50 am


Originally Posted by Airprox (Post 27278320)
This concerns me more than BoB in Y.

Free Percy pigs to replace afternoon tea no doubt. Appropriate to the time of day.

I do wonder whether this will be available on all flights - IE LHR-MAN, LGW-JER. I wonder if CE will just get something 'free' from the trolley and then the SCCM will disappear down the back to help with the retail service.

DELLAS Sep 29, 16 3:51 am


Originally Posted by IAMORGAN (Post 27278348)
Free Percy pigs to replace afternoon tea no doubt. Appropriate to the time of day.

A real enhancement then :D;)

rossmacd Sep 29, 16 3:52 am

An FTer is already at work on Twitter :D

https://twitter.com/British_Airways/...15855645130752

Ldnn1 Sep 29, 16 3:52 am


Originally Posted by Arctic Troll (Post 27278330)
Instead of the two fingers of whiskey, you'll just get the two fingers.

Using BA's prices, my G&T and crisps on UK Domestic is worth just under a tenner. I shall wait with baited breath for UK Domestic fares to decrease by a tenner.

Meanwhile, I'll be transferring my business back to Virgin Trains...

On my last BA shorthaul I had 4 wines - that's £20 on the menu now. I wouldn't be accepting two fingers.

My guess is that those who complain may get given a set number of avios per existing booking, perhaps enough for say one drink and one snack at the new avios payment prices.

ShuttleRunner Sep 29, 16 3:53 am

Granola pot (the exact one I have for brekkie most days), cider, and Percy Pigs? This is great!

On the other hand, will we be saying goodbye to hot breakfast domestics and lemon melts?

Flexible preferences Sep 29, 16 3:54 am


Originally Posted by JumboJim (Post 27278338)
My question is whether BAEC Golds & OWEs and above will get a complimentary drink and snack as happens to Executive Platinum & OWE members on AA?

It doesn't look like it, or it would have made sense that they would have mentioned this when saying about CE still being catered.


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