crazyarmadillo

our first domestic flights since the change earlier this month, aren't till March either, but will give it a go and see what they say. They can only say no, I suppose.

T8191

Our impending DUB-PHL-PHX in I/A/A/I [originally] was booked last August. Now, after squillions of terminal, flight number, timing and booking class changes, it's predictably I/D/D/I.

CBA to chase the TP difference, though - still enough to renew BAEC status for another year

crazyarmadillo

should added that we had 6 or 7 flights in DOM a day or so before the change and all were credited the old way.

Just in case someone else has gotten the wrong TP just around the time of the change.

Percy Pig

I have one of those AA RTM-ORD-CDG fares coming up in April. Affected portion of the trip was AUS-DFW-ORD, originally booked in A, now in D. Was 60+60 TPs now 40+40 TPs.

After the obligatory schedule changes AA agreed to reroute on AUS-DFW-LAX-ORD

Original TPs restored

msm2000uk

I flew on the day the changes took place, and called the GGL line upon my return to ask about the extra 20 TPs.

They aren't essential, but I was sat on the M25 with nothing to do, so made sense to try and obtain the extra credit.

The only response from the GGL line, was that they would need to speak to AA. The change was implemented by AA, and thus it was for AA to confirm the position.

Fast forward to last Thursday, and an email popped in to say AA wouldn't change their position.

Now, for 20 TPs I'm not worried, but for those on TP runs, I can understand the major loss.

Looks like AA are standing firm though - and personally, I wasn't expecting them not to.

M

Tobias-UK

The T&Cs do of course allow such changes:

"8.2. British Airways may, from time to time, alter the rules for earning Tier Points (for example, by altering eligible flights or fares or the number of Tier Points earned for specific Sectors). Members will be notified in advance of any changes.".

strichener

And when were members notified? I don't remember receiving any notification of this.

Tobias-UK

Wasn't it posted on BA.com several months ago? In any event, BA have changed nothing, AA have reclassified their fare codes.

sts603

Had you booked prior to the changes? I have one effected itinerary with three domestic sectors. All short so its only a delta of 60 TPs. Nice to have but probably not need to have.

strichener

I agree that it is AA that has changed and not BA. Therefore the BA clause is irrelevant and the original tier points should be awarded for those that booked prior to the change.

Tobias-UK

On what legal basis? The BA TP calculator has always indicated that J, D, I and R fare classes on AA will earn 40 or 140 TPs.

You purchased a ticket in the first class cabin on AA and that is the class in which you will travel. It appears AA have already made a very firm decision on this and it will not be awarding F/A fare TPs for a J/D/I/R fare itinerary.

Calchas

Do AA have any control over TP issuance? Avios, maybe, since they have to buy them. But TPs are an internal BAEC matter.

JonNYC

I'm very confused myself when I see that assertion or inference come up.

Tobias-UK

We do not know what the contractual position is between oneworld airlines and the earning of qualifying mileage credit. There may or may not be a price attached to 'qualifying miles' but whether there is or not doesn't affect the rules for passenger earning by contracting airlines. What we do know, from what has been posted in this topic and others about downgrades/upgrades on AA, is that BA have routinely sent the request for higher rate TPs back to AA for them to 'award'. A great many of these requests have been refused by AA and consequently BA have only credited the lower amount based on the fare code data given to them by AA.

In the current situation, AA have amended their fare codes to properly reflect the actual class of service offered on a particular route. They send the data to BA for processing and BA award the TPs at the appropriate level based on the fare codes.

The dilemma for those who are aggrieved by the change is to establish a remedy and basis in law to get the TPs they believe they should earn for the flights taken under the new fare codes.

This is a bit of a conundrum and one that will be incredibly difficult to resolve outside of AA/BA discretion.

T8191

As a previous beneficiary of AA's "Domestic First over 2000 nm", I always wondered why on Earth they did that. Our 2000+ sectors in 'First' have been sublimely sub-par in terms of comfort and service, and yet accruing 210 TP ... whereas the ex-DUB TATL in 'Business' in an infintely better seat/environment/service only accrued 140 TP for a longer flight. It was a massive anomoly which logically had to go ... sadly.