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Bad news for TP runs using AA [domestic F sells as J. Reduced TPs - confirmed]

Bad news for TP runs using AA [domestic F sells as J. Reduced TPs - confirmed]

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BAEC text is now confirming that after the forthcoming changes, TP and Avios for flights marketed as "domestic first" on two class aircrafts (ie everything except transcontinental flagship on all JFK-LAX vv, all JFK-SFO vv, and the MIA-LAX flights operated by a 77W) will accrue on a business class basis, ie 40TPs or 140TPs on flights over 2000mi and corresponding avios.

Seems it has been confirmed! Details in this post #254

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Old Oct 16, 16, 3:42 am
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Works or me.
Just tried again and doesn't work for me on IE, firefox or chrome. The frustrations of the internet!
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Old Oct 16, 16, 3:50 am
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Not working for me either on the above and I'll add edge to the non-working list too.
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Old Oct 16, 16, 3:52 am
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I've just checked our AA PHL-PHX in March, which was booked through BA on 125- stock in August.

BA.com "MMB" and "Earning Avios" shows us booked in Domestic First (A) and earning 210 TPs each.

Whether that changes subsequently is, of course, the question.
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Old Oct 16, 16, 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post
I've just checked our AA PHL-PHX in March, which was booked through BA on 125- stock in August.

BA.com "MMB" and "Earning Avios" shows us booked in Domestic First (A) and earning 210 TPs each.

Whether that changes subsequently is, of course, the question.
I suggest that you take a few screenshots
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Old Oct 16, 16, 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
I suggest that you take a few screenshots
Funny you should say that


It's actually non-critical, since even at the reduced rate we will still renew Gold (...without a HNL holiday )
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Old Oct 16, 16, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by gcuk View Post
Just tried again and doesn't work for me on IE, firefox or chrome. The frustrations of the internet!
Originally Posted by windowontheAside View Post
Not working for me either on the above and I'll add edge to the non-working list too.
Jus tried again on my iPad.
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Hmmmm.... if I right click on the non-working link and choose to open the link in a new tab, I get a text version of the page, rather than the usual graphical layout.

Tried it in FF and edge, same results in both.
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Originally Posted by windowontheAside View Post
Hmmmm.... if I right click on the non-working link and choose to open the link in a new tab, I get a text version of the page, rather than the usual graphical layout.

Tried it in FF and edge, same results in both.
Just left click.
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Mac/Safari ... left-clicky not worky. Right-clicky and "New Tab" gives same result as windowontheAside

>> Like This

... which agrees with the BA calculator, except in respect of "C" ...
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Old Oct 16, 16, 4:55 am
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Originally Posted by windowontheAside View Post
Hmmmm.... if I right click on the non-working link and choose to open the link in a new tab, I get a text version of the page, rather than the usual graphical layout.

Tried it in FF and edge, same results in both.
Did you turn off javascript?
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Old Oct 16, 16, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post
Funny you should say that


It's actually non-critical, since even at the reduced rate we will still renew Gold (...without a HNL holiday )
I guess your main decision now will be whether you drop the A330 seat for the 787 one from DUB for the benefit of the A-321 lie flat JFK-LAX

Assuming that is HNL still holds the same attraction in future
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Benj View Post
I guess your main decision now will be whether you drop the A330 seat for the 787 one from DUB for the benefit of the A-321 lie flat JFK-LAX

Assuming that is HNL still holds the same attraction in future
hahaha ... I'll be grateful to get a decent ex-DUB price, and worry about the aircraft later!

Anyway, we've done HNL [twice] and now looking for OGG next Summer. Everything is around 2k, so I'm having to be patient!
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Old Oct 16, 16, 6:17 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk View Post
Thanks for the info JonNYC - way ahead of the official announcement as usual!

Luckily for me...I'm flying MIA-JFK in F on the 11th January!

I can live with 40TPs opposed to 60TPs, but it will be interesting to see whether the BA website is updated for the change.

I'll wait until AA send out their 'Changes' email, and will then call up to see if they can do anything for me - unlikely, and I'm not sure what I'd be expecting, but they do tend to be quite amenable on the times I've called up.
My pleasure, and, now quite curious to see how they handle the whole thing myself.
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Old Oct 16, 16, 6:50 am
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Here's the internal memo on this, so that folks can draw their own conclusions, etc.
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Old Oct 16, 16, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
Here's the internal memo on this, so that folks can draw their own conclusions, etc.
Thanks again! It really is good of you to keep us posted with the information as it comes.

One way or another, BA will have to do something: at a minimum, either add "or domestic first class" under "business class" in the class descriptors of the partners table, or add "or F, P, A on two class domestic routes" in the bucket column as doing nothing would simply create a mismatch between the two.

My sense is that for technical reasons, it is extremely unlikely that J, C, I, R "domestic first" will continue earning at first class levels. Frankly, BA's IT systems are so poor that it is unlikely that they will differentiate between a LAX-MIA 2-class J or 3-class J. For the same reason, I'd personally expect that it is unlikely that redemptions will remain untouched though. In both cases, however, I am merely guessing.
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