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BAEC text is now confirming that after the forthcoming changes, TP and Avios for flights marketed as "domestic first" on two class aircrafts (ie everything except transcontinental flagship on all JFK-LAX vv, all JFK-SFO vv, and the MIA-LAX flights operated by a 77W) will accrue on a business class basis, ie 40TPs or 140TPs on flights over 2000mi and corresponding avios.
Seems it has been confirmed! Details in this post #254
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Seems it has been confirmed! Details in this post #254
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Bad news for TP runs using AA [domestic F sells as J. Reduced TPs - confirmed]
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1) nothing changes;
2) earnings reduce, redemptions do not change;
3) earnings and redemptions both reduce;
4) BAEC uses the change as a pretext for a larger overhaul with more negative consequences.
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With 4) being the most likley, I fear.
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I think (1) is extremely unlikely, not least because it would be very odd to have domestic J/D/I class earn business TPs if on BA codes (as they currently do) but first TPs on AA codes (as they currently don't).
Remember some non-transcon domestics already book into J/D/I on AA codes (usually if they share a flight number with a TATL) and they currently earn as J. So BAEC would actually have to change that status quo in order to maintain the wider status quo.
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This.
Yes it's dire to look at the exchange rate and see we're getting 1.2...
However, on a notional £10k spend over 2 weeks.
£5k is air fare
£2.5k is hotel
£2.5k is eating, drinking & entertainment.
The air fare is priced in GBP, so that's fixed.
If you can trim $40 a night off your hotel costs then you're making good progress. Just staying at the airport on the first night can achieve a lot of this.
Then shelve one blow out meal.
You're going to be pretty close to square.
Yes it's dire to look at the exchange rate and see we're getting 1.2...
However, on a notional £10k spend over 2 weeks.
£5k is air fare
£2.5k is hotel
£2.5k is eating, drinking & entertainment.
The air fare is priced in GBP, so that's fixed.
If you can trim $40 a night off your hotel costs then you're making good progress. Just staying at the airport on the first night can achieve a lot of this.
Then shelve one blow out meal.
You're going to be pretty close to square.
Being more optimistic, I've seen the Pound recover to more reasonable levels many times that I haven't completely given up on some sort of recovery.
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2) Hopefully not and I see as unlikely
3) Most likely
4) My greatest fear and something that certainly can't be ruled out
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Having stayed at the PHL Hampton a couple of weeks ago I'd avoid although I did manage to trigger the 100% satisfaction guarantee clause. That said, I'm still waiting for the refund.
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Now I can't seem to find any cheap ones now for my November travels.
£180 at PHL Vs. £155 for the Marriott that's connected to the airport.
Most seem to be from £130-£200 now (well except Panama City- that's around £50).
If I'm staying 7 hours overnight at an airport during a TP run, I'm not after luxury and if I can get away with it, don't want to be paying top dollar for a standard "we know you're only here for the night so why should we bother" sort of place.
Could possibly be cheaper to rent a car for a few days whilst doing TP runs that involve stopping over at the same place, park it in a large free hotel car park and use that to sleep in (have left my car at the Tyson's Corner Hilton in Washington DC before as I wasn't going to pay $30+ a night to park it in the city where I was staying. Metro trip up to it, and straight onto the main roads / highways / interstate from there).
As for changes in TP earning, I'll suck it up and/or look at various routings and if I decide to do 2 runs in a year instead of 1 as a top up, I can spare a few days extra. Enjoy flying so some more planes to fly on is good
From earlier, it's the exchange rate that's more of a problem at present.
Not planning on looking at anything until December at the earliest as I've got a holiday later this month to get out of the way first and don't want to make plans this side of my TP year.
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Sorry - gone a bit OT here.
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Most my USA trips are to Vegas. Hotel, food etc normally comped so will just adjust my bets accordingly.
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No hard evidence but the vibes suggest airlines are having a tough time, so less likely that they will reduce their frequent flyer benefits.
Will watch what AA do very carefully as I have 7 AA domestic F flights booked from Jan to Apr next year. A reduction of 490 TPs will be a big hit for me and put BAs short haul catering changes into the shade.
Will watch what AA do very carefully as I have 7 AA domestic F flights booked from Jan to Apr next year. A reduction of 490 TPs will be a big hit for me and put BAs short haul catering changes into the shade.
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As best as I can tell-- and as others here have pointed out-- I don't think there are really any remaining question marks about what AA will do, nor when, really. Rather how/if BAEC changes will take place based on same.