TSA Precheck [BA participation]
Oct 31, 2017, 9:55 am
#211
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The pressure will need to come from BA's large corporate customers not from one-off tickets such as yours.
The same companies which will gladly pay for GE for their employees will also push BA to make the Pre-Check links work. WN does not interline with any other carrier and has its own closed system. But, it manages Pre-Check. If WN can handle a given IT task, anyone can handle that task.
The same companies which will gladly pay for GE for their employees will also push BA to make the Pre-Check links work. WN does not interline with any other carrier and has its own closed system. But, it manages Pre-Check. If WN can handle a given IT task, anyone can handle that task.
Oct 31, 2017, 10:26 am
#212
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Yeah, let's say I need a biz class ticket from the USA to London. BA's refusal to give me a free advance biz class seat assignment and refusal to participate in precheck puts me on another carrier (assuming everything else is roughly equal). I'm sure I wouldn't be alone. That's got to be real money to them. No?
Oct 31, 2017, 12:00 pm
#213
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The pressure will need to come from BA's large corporate customers not from one-off tickets such as yours.
The same companies which will gladly pay for GE for their employees will also push BA to make the Pre-Check links work. WN does not interline with any other carrier and has its own closed system. But, it manages Pre-Check. If WN can handle a given IT task, anyone can handle that task.
The same companies which will gladly pay for GE for their employees will also push BA to make the Pre-Check links work. WN does not interline with any other carrier and has its own closed system. But, it manages Pre-Check. If WN can handle a given IT task, anyone can handle that task.
Nov 2, 2017, 10:54 am
#214
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Adding KTN to BA booked AA flight without aa.com
I have a BA-ticketed AA operated flight coming up. Just logged onto aa.com to enter KTNs for the party and had a surprise that my son's (infant) details show when i click on my wife's name.
AA phone agent assures me that all is well in the back end (infant appears linked to mother but mothers details are correct behind the scenes), but will not add KTN for me as this is a BA controlled ticket and they have a "no modify" policy. BA do not seem to recognise KTN as a field and therefore they can't add.
Once the flight dates are reached, do AA get more control over the ticket?
Obviously precheck doesn't matter for the outbound ex-LON, but would it be possible at that point for a checkin or lounge agent to add the KTN in the hope of making through the systems in time for the return flight?
I do know I should have booked direct, but I needed the extra BA coded flights to maintain status otherwise all those nice tier points would have gone to waste
AA phone agent assures me that all is well in the back end (infant appears linked to mother but mothers details are correct behind the scenes), but will not add KTN for me as this is a BA controlled ticket and they have a "no modify" policy. BA do not seem to recognise KTN as a field and therefore they can't add.
Once the flight dates are reached, do AA get more control over the ticket?
Obviously precheck doesn't matter for the outbound ex-LON, but would it be possible at that point for a checkin or lounge agent to add the KTN in the hope of making through the systems in time for the return flight?
I do know I should have booked direct, but I needed the extra BA coded flights to maintain status otherwise all those nice tier points would have gone to waste
Nov 2, 2017, 10:57 am
#215
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Once the flight dates are reached, do AA get more control over the ticket?
Obviously precheck doesn't matter for the outbound ex-LON, but would it be possible at that point for a checkin or lounge agent to add the KTN in the hope of making through the systems in time for the return flight?
Obviously precheck doesn't matter for the outbound ex-LON, but would it be possible at that point for a checkin or lounge agent to add the KTN in the hope of making through the systems in time for the return flight?
Nov 2, 2017, 11:14 am
#217
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The pressure will need to come from BA's large corporate customers not from one-off tickets such as yours.
The same companies which will gladly pay for GE for their employees will also push BA to make the Pre-Check links work. WN does not interline with any other carrier and has its own closed system. But, it manages Pre-Check. If WN can handle a given IT task, anyone can handle that task.
The same companies which will gladly pay for GE for their employees will also push BA to make the Pre-Check links work. WN does not interline with any other carrier and has its own closed system. But, it manages Pre-Check. If WN can handle a given IT task, anyone can handle that task.
The vast, vast majority of WN flights are within the US and they would lose market share if they didn't participate in Pre.
Whilst the US is an important market for BA the number of flights and passengers affected is relatively small in toto.
EI and IB don't participate either so maybe it's an IAG decision?
For the vast majority of BA passengers doing the IT work needed for pre would come way down on the priority list of IT issues for BA to solve.
Nov 3, 2017, 11:23 am
#218
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Just how much IT work is needed? There are foreign airlines that fly into/out of the US with one flight a day into some airports and they still have PreCheck. BA just doesn't care. Anyone who wants PreCheck should just fly AA. If there was no JV and people flying AA instead would have hurt BA revenue, they would probably wise up.
Nov 3, 2017, 11:44 am
#219
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Nov 3, 2017, 1:39 pm
#220
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TSA announced five more airlines, to include Cathay, joining Pre-Check bringing the total to 42. Too bad regarding BA.
Nov 3, 2017, 2:33 pm
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I suspect that those who have strong loyalty to BA to push for them to have PreCheck are also those who are less likely to stray from the same alliance unless the cost different is significantly attractive.
Nov 4, 2017, 11:40 am
#225
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