July's "enhancements"
Jul 4, 2016, 3:30 pm
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Jul 6, 2016, 8:10 am
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Flew the BA209 in F to MIA on Monday and I was quite puzzled by the lack of a) amuse bouche b) tasting menu option and (drumroll please) c) no bistro menu offering. Wow, what a let down.
The crew rather shamefully told me that these were changes brought on by not enough demand(?) for the items. In other terms the flight was wonderful with an excellent crew, just the right mix of formality and friendliness.
I can only hope these are temporary changes. BA sent me a "Help us shape the future" survey a while back in which there were not many nice words being said about the direction they are taking.
The crew rather shamefully told me that these were changes brought on by not enough demand(?) for the items. In other terms the flight was wonderful with an excellent crew, just the right mix of formality and friendliness.
I can only hope these are temporary changes. BA sent me a "Help us shape the future" survey a while back in which there were not many nice words being said about the direction they are taking.
Jul 6, 2016, 8:16 am
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I believe the BA 209 is operated by a 747. If so there would not have been a tasting menu option on 747 services; that menu was only offered on the A380 services. On A380 services there would have been the choice of either the regular menu or the tasting menu, the bistro menu was not offered on A380 services. So now on all First cabins there is an expanded regular menu, no Bistro menu and no longer an amuse bouche.
Jul 6, 2016, 8:30 am
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The amuse bouche was always a bit of a waste anyway. And I really don't see the difference between a bistro menu and having a larger selection of main items from which to choose. It largely seems like a renaming exercise...
Jul 6, 2016, 8:39 am
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Will or has the loss of the Bistro meant that there is a vegetarian starter and main course option on the F menu?
Jul 6, 2016, 8:46 am
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Apart from the reduction in choices? The two main bistro options that were offered have now become a single additional item to the main course options of the lunch/dinner menu. So not a larger selection as you suggest but a reduced selection.
Jul 6, 2016, 9:11 am
#248
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Flying on BA15 to SYD in a couple of months in F.
Assuming I have the full meal just after take off from LHR, would it be allowed or frowned upon if I ordered the burger/pasta/comfort option later on should I feel a bit peckish given its a fairly long flight? I can't help but wonder if it will make me feel a bit awkward having to order from the main menu for a second time when the bistro used to exist for this very reason.
Assuming I have the full meal just after take off from LHR, would it be allowed or frowned upon if I ordered the burger/pasta/comfort option later on should I feel a bit peckish given its a fairly long flight? I can't help but wonder if it will make me feel a bit awkward having to order from the main menu for a second time when the bistro used to exist for this very reason.
Jul 6, 2016, 9:13 am
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Flying on BA15 to SYD in a couple of months in F.
Assuming I have the full meal just after take off from LHR, would it be allowed or frowned upon if I ordered the burger/pasta/comfort option later on should I feel a bit peckish given its a fairly long flight? I can't help but wonder if it will make me feel a bit awkward having to order from the main menu for a second time when the bistro used to exist for this very reason.
Assuming I have the full meal just after take off from LHR, would it be allowed or frowned upon if I ordered the burger/pasta/comfort option later on should I feel a bit peckish given its a fairly long flight? I can't help but wonder if it will make me feel a bit awkward having to order from the main menu for a second time when the bistro used to exist for this very reason.
Jul 6, 2016, 9:22 am
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They have removed the bistro options, sure. Personally I never had these so from my point of view there has been an increase in selection for the main courses that I order, as I originally said.
Others are clearly upset about the removal of the bistro options but in nearly 20 F sectors last year I didn't have a single bistro item so it really has zero impact on me.
Jul 6, 2016, 9:37 am
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Well, no - if there were previously three main courses from which to choose, there are now four. That's an increase.
They have removed the bistro options, sure. Personally I never had these so from my point of view there has been an increase in selection for the main courses that I order, as I originally said.
Others are clearly upset about the removal of the bistro options but in nearly 20 F sectors last year I didn't have a single bistro item so it really has zero impact on me.
They have removed the bistro options, sure. Personally I never had these so from my point of view there has been an increase in selection for the main courses that I order, as I originally said.
Others are clearly upset about the removal of the bistro options but in nearly 20 F sectors last year I didn't have a single bistro item so it really has zero impact on me.
Given that Bistro items are pretty much available all the time, whereas it's common for them to run out of mains from the main menu, I can now see any additional food being "if available".
Jul 6, 2016, 9:48 am
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Well, no - if there were previously three main courses from which to choose, there are now four. That's an increase.
They have removed the bistro options, sure. Personally I never had these so from my point of view there has been an increase in selection for the main courses that I order, as I originally said.
Others are clearly upset about the removal of the bistro options but in nearly 20 F sectors last year I didn't have a single bistro item so it really has zero impact on me.
They have removed the bistro options, sure. Personally I never had these so from my point of view there has been an increase in selection for the main courses that I order, as I originally said.
Others are clearly upset about the removal of the bistro options but in nearly 20 F sectors last year I didn't have a single bistro item so it really has zero impact on me.
Jul 6, 2016, 10:20 am
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I believe the BA 209 is operated by a 747. If so there would not have been a tasting menu option on 747 services; that menu was only offered on the A380 services. On A380 services there would have been the choice of either the regular menu or the tasting menu, the bistro menu was not offered on A380 services. So now on all First cabins there is an expanded regular menu, no Bistro menu and no longer an amuse bouche.
An expanded regular menu... I'll give it a little comparison on how it stacks up to the older menu from earlier on this year.
Jul 6, 2016, 10:30 am
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Sorry, seems that I left this detail out. The BA209 was operated by an A380 last Monday (4th of July) and that is why I was wondering about the missing tasting menu. As this was completely missing from the menu, I would have thought they'd revert to the same 747 type menu with the Bistro selection, but apparently this was not the case with the "enhancements".
An expanded regular menu... I'll give it a little comparison on how it stacks up to the older menu from earlier on this year.
An expanded regular menu... I'll give it a little comparison on how it stacks up to the older menu from earlier on this year.
Jul 6, 2016, 10:31 am
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Well, no - if there were previously three main courses from which to choose, there are now four. That's an increase.
They have removed the bistro options, sure. Personally I never had these so from my point of view there has been an increase in selection for the main courses that I order, as I originally said.
Others are clearly upset about the removal of the bistro options but in nearly 20 F sectors last year I didn't have a single bistro item so it really has zero impact on me.
They have removed the bistro options, sure. Personally I never had these so from my point of view there has been an increase in selection for the main courses that I order, as I originally said.
Others are clearly upset about the removal of the bistro options but in nearly 20 F sectors last year I didn't have a single bistro item so it really has zero impact on me.