Original Routing Credit (ORC) Beginner's Guide
#61
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Yes. It isn't so much an adjustment of what has credited, but instead a removal of the re-booked itinerary credits from your EC account, and then credit of the flights you were originally on.
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I would suggest just being politely persistent and emphasising the AA IRROPS leading to a different routing and mention again the routing for which you are missing tier points. I would hope that eventually someone can sort it out.
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#64
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Yes - I will persevere and will report back once I hear more from BA. It's the "politely" bit I tend to struggle with!
#65
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I have this situation and was wondering if I could get my ORC?
1/ HKG - KUL (Avios CX redemption)
2/ KUL - JHB (MH J revenue)
both on separate tickets.
was original going to connect on KUL - JHB with 2hours to spare. but due to a severe delay of HKG - KUL, I wasn't going to make my connection and got CX to reroute me HKG-SIN and I made my own way by car to JHB.
Am I able to claim my TP for the MH KUL-JHB leg (those 40 tp are precious to me and I originally booked this itinerary to get them!)?
1/ HKG - KUL (Avios CX redemption)
2/ KUL - JHB (MH J revenue)
both on separate tickets.
was original going to connect on KUL - JHB with 2hours to spare. but due to a severe delay of HKG - KUL, I wasn't going to make my connection and got CX to reroute me HKG-SIN and I made my own way by car to JHB.
Am I able to claim my TP for the MH KUL-JHB leg (those 40 tp are precious to me and I originally booked this itinerary to get them!)?
#66
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I have this situation and was wondering if I could get my ORC?
1/ HKG - KUL (Avios CX redemption)
2/ KUL - JHB (MH J revenue)
both on separate tickets.
was original going to connect on KUL - JHB with 2hours to spare. but due to a severe delay of HKG - KUL, I wasn't going to make my connection and got CX to reroute me HKG-SIN and I made my own way by car to JHB.
Am I able to claim my TP for the MH KUL-JHB leg (those 40 tp are precious to me and I originally booked this itinerary to get them!)?
1/ HKG - KUL (Avios CX redemption)
2/ KUL - JHB (MH J revenue)
both on separate tickets.
was original going to connect on KUL - JHB with 2hours to spare. but due to a severe delay of HKG - KUL, I wasn't going to make my connection and got CX to reroute me HKG-SIN and I made my own way by car to JHB.
Am I able to claim my TP for the MH KUL-JHB leg (those 40 tp are precious to me and I originally booked this itinerary to get them!)?
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#69
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Actually the answer is yes. AA considers their relaxed travel alert rebooking policy to be part of IRROPS.
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Has anyone had any luck with doing an ORC for a Qatar airlines cancellation + rebooking on a non-OneWorld airline?
I was supposed to be flying with Qatar yesterday, but got rebooked on Turkish Airlines. I rang BA to request an Original Routing Credit for the flights, but they've said that it isn't possible for Qatar problems. When pushed, they claimed that the BA Executive Club can only do an ORC for BA, AA and Iberia re-routings
Is BA correct that I can't get an ORC for tier points and avios when a Qatar flight is cancelled and you're rebooked with a non-OW carrier? Or is the agent just mistaken and I need to try requesting again?
I was supposed to be flying with Qatar yesterday, but got rebooked on Turkish Airlines. I rang BA to request an Original Routing Credit for the flights, but they've said that it isn't possible for Qatar problems. When pushed, they claimed that the BA Executive Club can only do an ORC for BA, AA and Iberia re-routings
Is BA correct that I can't get an ORC for tier points and avios when a Qatar flight is cancelled and you're rebooked with a non-OW carrier? Or is the agent just mistaken and I need to try requesting again?
#71
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Has anyone had any luck with doing an ORC for a Qatar airlines cancellation + rebooking on a non-OneWorld airline?
I was supposed to be flying with Qatar yesterday, but got rebooked on Turkish Airlines. I rang BA to request an Original Routing Credit for the flights, but they've said that it isn't possible for Qatar problems. When pushed, they claimed that the BA Executive Club can only do an ORC for BA, AA and Iberia re-routings
Is BA correct that I can't get an ORC for tier points and avios when a Qatar flight is cancelled and you're rebooked with a non-OW carrier? Or is the agent just mistaken and I need to try requesting again?
I was supposed to be flying with Qatar yesterday, but got rebooked on Turkish Airlines. I rang BA to request an Original Routing Credit for the flights, but they've said that it isn't possible for Qatar problems. When pushed, they claimed that the BA Executive Club can only do an ORC for BA, AA and Iberia re-routings
Is BA correct that I can't get an ORC for tier points and avios when a Qatar flight is cancelled and you're rebooked with a non-OW carrier? Or is the agent just mistaken and I need to try requesting again?
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Just bumping this thread adding in this link to my recent experience, which seems to suggest BA may be changing their tone on ORC claims, particularly in regards to re-routes on AA:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...xclusions.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...xclusions.html
#73
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Has anyone had any luck with doing an ORC for a Qatar airlines cancellation + rebooking on a non-OneWorld airline?
I was supposed to be flying with Qatar yesterday, but got rebooked on Turkish Airlines. I rang BA to request an Original Routing Credit for the flights, but they've said that it isn't possible for Qatar problems. When pushed, they claimed that the BA Executive Club can only do an ORC for BA, AA and Iberia re-routings
Is BA correct that I can't get an ORC for tier points and avios when a Qatar flight is cancelled and you're rebooked with a non-OW carrier? Or is the agent just mistaken and I need to try requesting again?
I was supposed to be flying with Qatar yesterday, but got rebooked on Turkish Airlines. I rang BA to request an Original Routing Credit for the flights, but they've said that it isn't possible for Qatar problems. When pushed, they claimed that the BA Executive Club can only do an ORC for BA, AA and Iberia re-routings
Is BA correct that I can't get an ORC for tier points and avios when a Qatar flight is cancelled and you're rebooked with a non-OW carrier? Or is the agent just mistaken and I need to try requesting again?
My attempt to do an ORC via the GGL phone line was a complete bust - they initially seemed not to understand exactly what an ORC was, then told me it wasn't possible for Qatar flights on 157-stock
Based on advice here, I then messaged BAMissingAvios (including all flight numbers, booking references, e-ticket numbers). They understood exactly what the problem was, and sent off the request to Qatar. Yesterday, quicker than predicted (~2 weeks) they let me know the credit had been applied
It seems the process is entirely manual though, as there was a typo in the airport code for one of the flights! I sent a message back through the BA online message thingy, and today they've fixed the typo + associated avios/TPs.
So, thanks again to BAMissingAvios for arranging my ORC

#74
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To finish off my story - I now have all my missed tier points and avios!
My attempt to do an ORC via the GGL phone line was a complete bust - they initially seemed not to understand exactly what an ORC was, then told me it wasn't possible for Qatar flights on 157-stock
Based on advice here, I then messaged BAMissingAvios (including all flight numbers, booking references, e-ticket numbers). They understood exactly what the problem was, and sent off the request to Qatar. Yesterday, quicker than predicted (~2 weeks) they let me know the credit had been applied
It seems the process is entirely manual though, as there was a typo in the airport code for one of the flights! I sent a message back through the BA online message thingy, and today they've fixed the typo + associated avios/TPs.
So, thanks again to BAMissingAvios for arranging my ORC
My attempt to do an ORC via the GGL phone line was a complete bust - they initially seemed not to understand exactly what an ORC was, then told me it wasn't possible for Qatar flights on 157-stock
Based on advice here, I then messaged BAMissingAvios (including all flight numbers, booking references, e-ticket numbers). They understood exactly what the problem was, and sent off the request to Qatar. Yesterday, quicker than predicted (~2 weeks) they let me know the credit had been applied
It seems the process is entirely manual though, as there was a typo in the airport code for one of the flights! I sent a message back through the BA online message thingy, and today they've fixed the typo + associated avios/TPs.
So, thanks again to BAMissingAvios for arranging my ORC

#75
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