Jul 8, 2016, 2:22 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
UPDATED FOR 15 NOVEMBER 2016: BA will no longer accept interlining on BA-BA separate tickets / PNRs.
From 1 June 2016, the oneworld policy on accepting customers travelling on separate tickets was changed. BA, along with some other oneworld partners, has implemented this change in policy which is as follows:
Only those customers that have separate tickets issued in the same PNR/booking will be accepted for through check-in. Furthermore all sectors must be BA / oneworld / other carrier, but BA to/fron Vueling is specifically NOT allowed even on the same ticket. Aer Lingus is not specified but some be covered by "other carrier".
A PNR is a wrapper, and it can have several tickets, and other items such as hotels, in one PNR, so long as it was built that way at the time of purchase. Another (new) ticket can be inserted into an existing PNR after purchase, it is easiest to do this at a BA airport, and there is a small fee for doing this (Ł15 in the UK). However you cannot merge 2 existing PNRs into one PNR - once a reservation has reached ticketed status it can't be moved. If you have 2 PNRs you need to allow time to collect and re-check any bags at the transfer airport.
There is one exception: BA to BA transfers, on 2 PNRs, are allowed. See post 643 for details.
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From post 947. Select "do not have IATA number"
http://www.speedbirdclub.com/ch/reservations-ticketing/rulesregulations/separatetickets/
From 1 June 2016, the oneworld policy on accepting customers travelling on separate tickets was changed. BA, along with some other oneworld partners, has implemented this change in policy which is as follows:
Only those customers that have separate tickets issued in the same PNR/booking will be accepted for through check-in. Furthermore all sectors must be BA / oneworld / other carrier, but BA to/fron Vueling is specifically NOT allowed even on the same ticket. Aer Lingus is not specified but some be covered by "other carrier".
A PNR is a wrapper, and it can have several tickets, and other items such as hotels, in one PNR, so long as it was built that way at the time of purchase. Another (new) ticket can be inserted into an existing PNR after purchase, it is easiest to do this at a BA airport, and there is a small fee for doing this (Ł15 in the UK). However you cannot merge 2 existing PNRs into one PNR - once a reservation has reached ticketed status it can't be moved. If you have 2 PNRs you need to allow time to collect and re-check any bags at the transfer airport.
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From post 947. Select "do not have IATA number"
http://www.speedbirdclub.com/ch/reservations-ticketing/rulesregulations/separatetickets/
BA no longer through checking baggage with separate tickets
Jul 30, 2016, 12:54 am
#751
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Two occurrences to different destinations in the last 2 weeks. One departing from ABZ and the other from LHR at the F check-in desks.
CS have given me incorrect information previously, so I wouldn't rule out them being wrong, but given the lack of anything concrete saying that BA-BA bookings is allowed, I've nothing to present to the agent at check-in to say otherwise.
I can only assume that this is BA policy now
CS have given me incorrect information previously, so I wouldn't rule out them being wrong, but given the lack of anything concrete saying that BA-BA bookings is allowed, I've nothing to present to the agent at check-in to say otherwise.
I can only assume that this is BA policy now
Jul 30, 2016, 1:22 am
#752
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My BA-BA luggae was interlined at AMS this morning. I had 2 separate PNRs and told the check in agent I was flying through to ORD and she asked me who the 2nd flight was with. When I said BA and showed her my boarding pass, she checked it to ORD....
Jul 30, 2016, 4:03 am
#753
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Why don't airlines generally sell all fares via other airlines? If I can book it on the web, why can't I also buy it via my airline- at least just so the bookings can be linked. It seems very odd that they seem to sell high priced tickets via other airlines but won't sell normal ones - what difference does it make to them?
This is surely the best argument to use a travel agent for all multi-airline bookings?
This is surely the best argument to use a travel agent for all multi-airline bookings?
However, an airline can restrict the ticket stock on which a fare may be issued to the ticket stock of a specified carrier. For instance, CX might only allow its cheapest fares to be issued on CX stock. A TA can decide whose ticket paper to use whereas an airline always uses its own paper.
Secondly an airline can control the distribution of its fares. In this case, CX does not actually publish any public fares on BKK-HKG except in the B, Y and J booking classes. They may well have negotiated fares and private fares in the other booking codes, available to select agents or particular customers, or available through their own booking channels, but BA will only see the public tariff.
Finally, BA has a policy of not issuing stand alone tickets containing purely non-BA sectors, except for tickets only containing AA, EI, and IB numbered flights.
Jul 30, 2016, 7:17 am
#754
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They can, providing they have a ticketing interline agreement.
However, an airline can restrict the ticket stock on which a fare may be issued to the ticket stock of a specified carrier. For instance, CX might only allow its cheapest fares to be issued on CX stock. A TA can decide whose ticket paper to use whereas an airline always uses its own paper.
Secondly an airline can control the distribution of its fares. In this case, CX does not actually publish any public fares on BKK-HKG except in the B, Y and J booking classes. They may well have negotiated fares and private fares in the other booking codes, available to select agents or particular customers, or available through their own booking channels, but BA will only see the public tariff.
Finally, BA has a policy of not issuing stand alone tickets containing purely non-BA sectors, except for tickets only containing AA, EI, and IB numbered flights.
However, an airline can restrict the ticket stock on which a fare may be issued to the ticket stock of a specified carrier. For instance, CX might only allow its cheapest fares to be issued on CX stock. A TA can decide whose ticket paper to use whereas an airline always uses its own paper.
Secondly an airline can control the distribution of its fares. In this case, CX does not actually publish any public fares on BKK-HKG except in the B, Y and J booking classes. They may well have negotiated fares and private fares in the other booking codes, available to select agents or particular customers, or available through their own booking channels, but BA will only see the public tariff.
Finally, BA has a policy of not issuing stand alone tickets containing purely non-BA sectors, except for tickets only containing AA, EI, and IB numbered flights.
So with the new not-though checking of bags, it seems using travel agent has a number of advantages.
Jul 30, 2016, 12:51 pm
#755
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Unfortunately QR pricing (ex-LON) for LHR-KUL/DPS-LHR is not appealing vs. Avios + GUF and I'm not keen on cash fares anyway as TPs before November will be wasted.
Irritating...
Jul 30, 2016, 1:30 pm
#756
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As I was looking at hotels in KUL I remembered this thread. Luckily I have 4 hours connection time for DPS-KUL/KUL-LHR. But it is going to add hassle, had kind of hoped it wasn't also an issue for MH>BA, but seems it is.
Unfortunately QR pricing (ex-LON) for LHR-KUL/DPS-LHR is not appealing vs. Avios + GUF and I'm not keen on cash fares anyway as TPs before November will be wasted.
Irritating...
Unfortunately QR pricing (ex-LON) for LHR-KUL/DPS-LHR is not appealing vs. Avios + GUF and I'm not keen on cash fares anyway as TPs before November will be wasted.
Irritating...
Jul 30, 2016, 1:43 pm
#757
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This is MH's check through policy which says MH to OneWorld on separate tickets is ok. Whether they follow the policy, YMMV.
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/e...n/counter.html
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/e...n/counter.html
Jul 30, 2016, 3:31 pm
#758
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As I was looking at hotels in KUL I remembered this thread. Luckily I have 4 hours connection time for DPS-KUL/KUL-LHR. But it is going to add hassle, had kind of hoped it wasn't also an issue for MH>BA, but seems it is.
Unfortunately QR pricing (ex-LON) for LHR-KUL/DPS-LHR is not appealing vs. Avios + GUF and I'm not keen on cash fares anyway as TPs before November will be wasted.
Irritating...
Unfortunately QR pricing (ex-LON) for LHR-KUL/DPS-LHR is not appealing vs. Avios + GUF and I'm not keen on cash fares anyway as TPs before November will be wasted.
Irritating...
I have 110mins between landing at KUL and departing, albeit arriving on BA and departing with MH. Obviously, at the time of booking, I wasn't concerned.
However now, I'm investigating into a VIP Service who will rush me through all the complicated and potentially slow bits of the transfer!
M
Jul 30, 2016, 4:34 pm
#759
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This is MH's check through policy which says MH to OneWorld on separate tickets is ok. Whether they follow the policy, YMMV.
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/e...n/counter.html
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/e...n/counter.html
Jul 31, 2016, 3:39 pm
#760
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Just adding another data point, this reported from my partner who flew BA in F from JFK-LHR then onwards on BA on a separate PNR: the agent at the check-in counter was unable to check his bag all the way through, but he was sent to another desk where it was done. He was happy, as it meant less schlepping and more CCR time.
So BA-BA can be done at JFK, just not everyone there is currently capable of doing it.
So BA-BA can be done at JFK, just not everyone there is currently capable of doing it.
Aug 1, 2016, 8:08 am
#761
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Pleased to report interlining of bags today at MCO.
Ex Dub ticket booked through AA MCO-JFK (BA)-LHR the DUB flight scheduled for March next yr. LHR-NCL booked with avois. Lovely lady at MCO had no problem interlining bags on separate PNR's.
Ex Dub ticket booked through AA MCO-JFK (BA)-LHR the DUB flight scheduled for March next yr. LHR-NCL booked with avois. Lovely lady at MCO had no problem interlining bags on separate PNR's.
Aug 1, 2016, 8:11 am
#762
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. AA hasn't changed its policy - it's BA that has.
Aug 3, 2016, 9:01 am
#763
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My wife and I booked a separate EDI-LHR to connect to our LHR-SAN, both of which were prior to this "enhancement." All BA metal. Anyone have a data point for this out if EDI?