WT and WTP (family holiday) fare deals
Feb 10, 2017, 9:12 am
#76
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the original thread which has more details and further discussion
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premi...rt-463-wt.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/premi...rt-463-wt.html
Feb 11, 2017, 12:18 am
#77
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For the long haul segments use the advanced routing code: ba /f bc=t
Feb 11, 2017, 3:55 am
#78
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These "ex-EU" fares can be found using ITA Matrix, but unfortunately not easily, as when you select premium economy, ITA Matrix prices with the connections in CE. However it can be done by specifying each segment separately. Use cabin: Cheapest available, and for the European segments, list your favourite back-to-back airports, e.g.: ABZ, AMS, ARN, BGO, CPH, DUB, DUS, GIB, GOT, GVA, JER, LUX, MAD, OPO, PRG, SVG, SOF, TXL, VIE, VNO
For the long haul segments use the advanced routing code: ba /f bc=t
For the long haul segments use the advanced routing code: ba /f bc=t
Feb 11, 2017, 7:10 am
#79
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In fact, you don't even need to separate out the long and short haul legs. You could search for those airports to your intended destination, and use "BA+ /F BC=T". That code will force the long hauls into T, and the cheapest class available for the short haul leg (as long as "Cheapest available" is selected.
Regards
Feb 14, 2017, 1:48 pm
#81
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Not exactly premium deal but WT+ that could be upgraded with Avios or GUF to business: LON to Toronto and Chicago direct on BA for £680-700 depending on the dates, Vancouver for £780. March – June; September – December 2017, check ITA or Google Flights for particular dates.
Last edited by Richmond_Surrey; Feb 14, 2017 at 2:08 pm
Feb 14, 2017, 2:22 pm
#82
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Not exactly premium deal but WT+ that could be upgraded with Avios or GUF to business: LON to Toronto and Chicago direct on BA for £680-700 depending on the dates, Vancouver for £780. March – June; September – December 2017, check ITA or Google Flights for particular dates.
Feb 14, 2017, 2:37 pm
#83
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I think it will be corrected soon, because on Expert Flyer it shows as Economy Cabin, but Booking Class T and books into T (WT+). Also there's not a lot of tickets, on some days only 1 left.
Tariff name: QKN1S4T1 - YVR, YYC
ELIGIBILITY
VALID FOR ADULT PSGR. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A
SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT PSGR. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED
ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT PSGR.
DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY PERMITTED 30MAR17 THROUGH 21JUN17 OR 17AUG17 THROUGH
28OCT17 OR 13DEC17 THROUGH 24DEC17 FOR EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
MINIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
TRANSFERS
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
2 PERMITTED VIA AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN
EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
COMBINATIONS
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
WITH BA FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
Tariff name: QKN1S4T1 - YVR, YYC
ELIGIBILITY
VALID FOR ADULT PSGR. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A
SPECIFIED ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT PSGR. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED
ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT PSGR.
DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY PERMITTED 30MAR17 THROUGH 21JUN17 OR 17AUG17 THROUGH
28OCT17 OR 13DEC17 THROUGH 24DEC17 FOR EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
MINIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
TRANSFERS
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
2 PERMITTED VIA AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN
EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
COMBINATIONS
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
WITH BA FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
Feb 14, 2017, 2:42 pm
#84
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The fare basis of the one you've quoted that books into WT+ is QKN1S4T1/DIF4, so it's one of the dual inventory fares that requires availability in Q and T buckets in this instance.
Feb 14, 2017, 3:16 pm
#86
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London,UK
Posts: 497
I want to fly WT+ cheaply ex-LHR. Week in Vancouver Island if I can find the right dates. I was planning SLC this year in J ex-DUB for yellowstone, but this is half the price and ex-LHR direct.
MEX is coming up at £725 in WTP for a number of dates, could be worth it.
MEX is coming up at £725 in WTP for a number of dates, could be worth it.
Last edited by bonzo; Feb 15, 2017 at 1:15 am Reason: MEX
Apr 2, 2017, 4:40 am
#89
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Location: London
Programs: BA GGL / GfL
Posts: 3,247
Just to give this a bump, still good deals to SJC out of ARN for later in the year (especially times which normal J sales don't include).
I picked up ARN>LHR>SJC>LHR>ARN in Oct for £520 (with 8.5K Avios deduction). I then used a GUF1 to move the whole lot to CE/CW and the tax difference was only £17.50 extra, so a round trip ex-EU to West Coast in J on a B789 for £540 - not a bad deal if you have some GUF's or Avios you want to part with.
Pilot37
I picked up ARN>LHR>SJC>LHR>ARN in Oct for £520 (with 8.5K Avios deduction). I then used a GUF1 to move the whole lot to CE/CW and the tax difference was only £17.50 extra, so a round trip ex-EU to West Coast in J on a B789 for £540 - not a bad deal if you have some GUF's or Avios you want to part with.
Pilot37
May 5, 2017, 12:44 pm
#90
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: London
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Been trying to get flights to from SF/Bay Area for a half-decent price in WT+ in June, returning to London
Various options from DUB, GOT, ARN for £900-950ish, generally returning from OAK-LGW (or LGW-OAK-LGW £968 which can be discounted with Avios by £308 or £210)
... but managed instead to find a couple of days flying MAD-DFW-SFO / OAK-LGW with the outbound on AA's new 787-9 in its Premium Economy, connecting in Dallas & then booking into Y / Main Cabin Extra for the SFO leg for £724.
Not as good as £500 ex-ARN for October, but June is pretty pricey for California
Various options from DUB, GOT, ARN for £900-950ish, generally returning from OAK-LGW (or LGW-OAK-LGW £968 which can be discounted with Avios by £308 or £210)
... but managed instead to find a couple of days flying MAD-DFW-SFO / OAK-LGW with the outbound on AA's new 787-9 in its Premium Economy, connecting in Dallas & then booking into Y / Main Cabin Extra for the SFO leg for £724.
Not as good as £500 ex-ARN for October, but June is pretty pricey for California