Best Way to Complain as a GGL?
#76
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How tiring life must be when you get upset by stuff like this.
Let me put a patronizing hand on the OP's shoulder and say 'There, there! Why don't you have a chocolate and relax for a bit...'
Let me put a patronizing hand on the OP's shoulder and say 'There, there! Why don't you have a chocolate and relax for a bit...'
#77
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In my opinion the OP started the condescending approach with this retort to the cabin crew who were just doing their job:
"I would prefer if you could leave our coats on top of our bags."
What on earth has preference got to do with it. You may be a perfect case packer. You may have placed your coats to perfection. But 99% of customers that cabin crew will deal with will not have placed items with such care. And when you refer to what you'd prefer him/her not to do, it will have just riled him/her enough to reply in the manner they did.
And incidentally hand on shoulder with kindergarten voice to me sounds more tongue in cheek than condescending.
"I would prefer if you could leave our coats on top of our bags."
What on earth has preference got to do with it. You may be a perfect case packer. You may have placed your coats to perfection. But 99% of customers that cabin crew will deal with will not have placed items with such care. And when you refer to what you'd prefer him/her not to do, it will have just riled him/her enough to reply in the manner they did.
And incidentally hand on shoulder with kindergarten voice to me sounds more tongue in cheek than condescending.
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You didn't have to suffer the ignominy of putting your bag under the seat did you?
Yellow tag for all carry-on?
Yellow tag for all carry-on?
#79
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In my opinion the OP started the condescending approach with this retort to the cabin crew who were just doing their job:
"I would prefer if you could leave our coats on top of our bags."
What on earth has preference got to do with it. You may be a perfect case packer. You may have placed your coats to perfection. But 99% of customers that cabin crew will deal with will not have placed items with such care. And when you refer to what you'd prefer him/her not to do, it will have just riled him/her enough to reply in the manner they did.
And incidentally hand on shoulder with kindergarten voice to me sounds more tongue in cheek than condescending.
"I would prefer if you could leave our coats on top of our bags."
What on earth has preference got to do with it. You may be a perfect case packer. You may have placed your coats to perfection. But 99% of customers that cabin crew will deal with will not have placed items with such care. And when you refer to what you'd prefer him/her not to do, it will have just riled him/her enough to reply in the manner they did.
And incidentally hand on shoulder with kindergarten voice to me sounds more tongue in cheek than condescending.
I know a passenger can't get in a mood and throw a passenger off the flight, but CC can. All I would ask is to be spoken to in the same manner that the crew would like to be spoken to. Respectfully. Unfortunately, if one flies enough, they see that power corrupts and the first thing it corrupts is the service oriented attitude of some people.
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As requested, an update on the outcome. Received a response from GGL Customer Relations. Relevant section below (minus the crew member's name).
I'm concerned to hear about the way a specific cabin crew member, XXXX, spoke to you and your wife. This is certainly not what we expect to hear about any staff member. Our staff are highly trained and we’re really proud of the service we offer. Our Managing Director of Brands and Customer Experience ensures our service remains outstanding by regularly taking flights. So, I’m sorry to hear they weren't as helpful as we expect them to be.
I'm disappointed to hear this particular staff member spoke to you in a condescending tone. I completely understand why you would feel humiliated and I'm so sorry this led to an unpleasant flight experience overall. Whilst our cabin crew need to work with limited space in the overhead lockers, this does not excuse inappropriate and offensive behaviour. Please be assured, I’ve sent a report to the manager of the staff member you’ve mentioned who will now handle this internally.
It’s only through your comments we’re able to focus on areas where we need to improve. We’re very grateful for your feedback and we certainly value your insight, especially as a valued member of the Gold Guest List.
I'm concerned to hear about the way a specific cabin crew member, XXXX, spoke to you and your wife. This is certainly not what we expect to hear about any staff member. Our staff are highly trained and we’re really proud of the service we offer. Our Managing Director of Brands and Customer Experience ensures our service remains outstanding by regularly taking flights. So, I’m sorry to hear they weren't as helpful as we expect them to be.
I'm disappointed to hear this particular staff member spoke to you in a condescending tone. I completely understand why you would feel humiliated and I'm so sorry this led to an unpleasant flight experience overall. Whilst our cabin crew need to work with limited space in the overhead lockers, this does not excuse inappropriate and offensive behaviour. Please be assured, I’ve sent a report to the manager of the staff member you’ve mentioned who will now handle this internally.
It’s only through your comments we’re able to focus on areas where we need to improve. We’re very grateful for your feedback and we certainly value your insight, especially as a valued member of the Gold Guest List.
Last edited by sts603; Feb 7, 2016 at 10:58 am
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#84
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Like so many incidents that one reads of here only one person knows what actually happened. The OP now knows that best way to complain, and only he will act or otherwise according to how he feels. As I was not there, I would not presume to pass judgement. Whether I would have taken umbrage at what is alleged to have taken place or whether I would just let it ride, I cannot tell.
However, I would love to know what the outcome is and what response he gets to any complaint that he makes
However, I would love to know what the outcome is and what response he gets to any complaint that he makes
#85
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Like so many incidents that one reads of here only one person knows what actually happened. The OP now knows that best way to complain, and only he will act or otherwise according to how he feels. As I was not there, I would not presume to pass judgement. Whether I would have taken umbrage at what is alleged to have taken place or whether I would just let it ride, I cannot tell.
However, I would love to know what the outcome is and what response he gets to any complaint that he makes
However, I would love to know what the outcome is and what response he gets to any complaint that he makes
#86
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(4) This is a problem of BA's making. The crunch of seats on short haul, the proliferation of HBO fares, combined with the (wholly appropriate IMHO) baggage allowance has made the situation tense and untenable. It doesn't excuse crew members being condescending in such a situation (you would never have that on QR or SQ) but the causes are quite clear.