Best Way to Complain as a GGL?
#16
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To be honest I also feel that referring to a hand on a shoulder as 'inappropriate' physical contact frankly quite radical. I have, unfortunately, had to help people who have been the victims of inappropriate physical contact and trust, a hand on a shoulder is sadly nowhere near what happened to them.
Would it bother me. Probably not. But I'm not the OP.
#17
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I was going to post something to this effect. OP asked how best to make a complaint, being a GGL. Not for opinions on whether it's a valid complaint. Only OP was there; only OP can make a judgement on whether to complain.
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It could go one of two ways: either the OP will be viewed as too emotive because clearly the contact was not inappropriate in the sense that most people would view it in the Queen's English, and that will lessen the impact of the total complaint, or it will taken literally and be entirely believed in which case the CC will most likely be up for disciplinary proceedings up to and including dismissal for gross misconduct.
Now, would I really want to totally jeopardise a member of CC's career just because they put their hand on my shoulder? I can't help but feel a degree of proportion might be in order here.
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I think he was just letting off steam more than anything else.
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But the point is, it will be for BA to determine, and any exaggeration then becomes dangerous because the person determining it wasn't there either.
It could go one of two ways: either the OP will be viewed as too emotive because clearly the contact was not inappropriate in the sense that most people would view it in the Queen's English, and that will lessen the impact of the total complaint, or it will taken literally and be entirely believed in which case the CC will most likely be up for disciplinary proceedings up to and including dismissal for gross misconduct.
Now, would I really want to totally jeopardise a member of CC's career just because they put their hand on my shoulder? I can't help but feel a degree of proportion might be in order here.
It could go one of two ways: either the OP will be viewed as too emotive because clearly the contact was not inappropriate in the sense that most people would view it in the Queen's English, and that will lessen the impact of the total complaint, or it will taken literally and be entirely believed in which case the CC will most likely be up for disciplinary proceedings up to and including dismissal for gross misconduct.
Now, would I really want to totally jeopardise a member of CC's career just because they put their hand on my shoulder? I can't help but feel a degree of proportion might be in order here.
Exaggerating a bit I would say.
All a bit of a storm in a teacup really.
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Personally I would have thought the best way to deal with this was there and then by talking to the senior cabin crew member on board. I'm sure it would all have been sorted out in a friendly manner.
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It could go one of two ways: either the OP will be viewed as too emotive because clearly the contact was not inappropriate in the sense that most people would view it in the Queen's English, and that will lessen the impact of the total complaint, or it will taken literally and be entirely believed in which case the CC will most likely be up for disciplinary proceedings up to and including dismissal for gross misconduct.
This is the entire reason appraisal/review/supervision structures exist in large organisations. If this CC is getting 1 complaint every 2 flights, isn't that in BA's interests to notice?
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At the very least, it would lead to considerable anxiety for the accused CC when asked to explain why he touched someone 'inappropriately'. That doesn't seem right to me in these circumstances.
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The comment would probably annoy me too, but I doubt I'd complain. If I complained about everybody who upset me with careless remarks, I'd spend most of my day writing letters. Just mark him down as a baddy, you'll appreciate the nicer ones more!
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He's an angry man who got upset.
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That's why there's a certain amount of responsibility here to remain objective and factual, removing all emotion. Hopefully, with a day or so of reflection, the OP will draw the same conclusion. If not, then there may well be something here lots of us have failed to understand and a complaint using the same language is fully justified.