BA blocking all RJ award inventory

Old Jan 23, 16, 8:39 pm
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BA blocking all RJ award inventory

Had to just book a RJ flight using AAdvantage miles instead. Award availability to oneworld is there.

Called BA several times, they don't seem to care. Tweeted at them, same thing. Asked them to look at LHR-AMM and AQJ-AMM availability across the board, close-in, far-out. Same "no" answer.

Can anyone else confirm?
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Old Jan 23, 16, 9:42 pm
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Checked LHR-AMM route from my RJ account for february. Seats available for everyday except 8th-10th,12th-15th,and 18th.

I thought that possibly RJ allocates more seats for RJ members,than to other OW members,but since you could see availability from your AA account,that does not seem to be the case.
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Old Jan 24, 16, 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by Rami Tamimi View Post
Checked LHR-AMM route from my RJ account for february. Seats available for everyday except 8th-10th,12th-15th,and 18th.

I thought that possibly RJ allocates more seats for RJ members,than to other OW members,but since you could see availability from your AA account,that does not seem to be the case.
NOthing is available on BA or for BA. AA books fine.
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Old Jan 24, 16, 5:43 am
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See previous threads. It isn't that BA are blocking it - it's that BA can't see it - it isn't being displayed for them.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...jordanian.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ds-online.html
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Old Jan 24, 16, 7:07 am
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I tried booking LYS-LON-MAN. ba.com showing zero availability on the date that I want. Both in economy and CE.

I look into aa.com and it offers me all possibilities on BA on the same day!

What gives?
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Old Jan 24, 16, 9:59 am
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Look at sectors individually?
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Old Jan 24, 16, 10:07 am
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BA blocking all RJ award inventory

I recall that a few years ago this was common business practice at United: They blocked Star Alliance rewards (or in any case severely limited access to inventory) because the charge they paid to alliance partners was higher than the cost if miles were burnt on their own metal.

Any chance penny pinching at BA may have found a new playing field?
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Old Jan 24, 16, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy View Post
I tried booking LYS-LON-MAN. ba.com showing zero availability on the date that I want. Both in economy and CE.

I look into aa.com and it offers me all possibilities on BA on the same day!

What gives?
BA's avios booking engine is rubbish
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Old Jan 24, 16, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy View Post
I tried booking LYS-LON-MAN. ba.com showing zero availability on the date that I want. Both in economy and CE.

I look into aa.com and it offers me all possibilities on BA on the same day!

What gives?
What dates?
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Old Jan 24, 16, 11:25 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingB1975 View Post
I recall that a few years ago this was common business practice at United: They blocked Star Alliance rewards (or in any case severely limited access to inventory) because the charge they paid to alliance partners was higher than the cost if miles were burnt on their own metal.

Any chance penny pinching at BA may have found a new playing field?
If anything, it should be the opposite. BA will charge you their own high YQ for the booking, which the carrier airline does not charge its own Frequent Flyer members -- and, presumably, pocket the difference? They'd still make less, of course, than they would have for a booking on their own flights, but I doubt if BA's already extraordinary level of greed has reached quite such pathological levels.
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Old Jan 25, 16, 2:51 am
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Originally Posted by husseinbadr View Post
If anything, it should be the opposite. BA will charge you their own high YQ for the booking, which the carrier airline does not charge its own Frequent Flyer members -- and, presumably, pocket the difference? They'd still make less, of course, than they would have for a booking on their own flights, but I doubt if BA's already extraordinary level of greed has reached quite such pathological levels.
BA charges whatever YQ the carrier would itself charge on a revenue booking
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Old Jan 25, 16, 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by husseinbadr View Post
If anything, it should be the opposite. BA will charge you their own high YQ for the booking, which the carrier airline does not charge its own Frequent Flyer members -- and, presumably, pocket the difference? They'd still make less, of course, than they would have for a booking on their own flights, but I doubt if BA's already extraordinary level of greed has reached quite such pathological levels.
BA only charge YQ on partner redemptions where they operate the same route (i.e. mostly flights that touch London). If you were to book something like ORD-DUS on AB you'd get it without the ridiculous level of YQ.
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Old Jan 26, 16, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
BA charges whatever YQ the carrier would itself charge on a revenue booking
Not sure what you mean by that, but as an unqualified statement, it does not accord with my experience.

Originally Posted by FlyingB1975 View Post
BA only charge YQ on partner redemptions where they operate the same route (i.e. mostly flights that touch London). If you were to book something like ORD-DUS on AB you'd get it without the ridiculous level of YQ.
"operate the same route" (including transfers via London) sounds correct. I recently made an award booking AMM-JFK-AMM via BAEC for a friend in J on the non-stop RJ flights, and was charged USD642. The same booking on AAdvantage would have cost USD90. I am unable to check what RJ would have charged its own FF members, but presumably it would not have been more than USD90. I assume (but have not checked) that had the booking been JFK-AMM-JFK rather than AMM-JFK-AMM, BAEC's charges would have been even higher.
Miles-/Avios-wise, the BAEC booking cost 180,000 avios. The AAdvantage booking would have cost 135,000 miles. But that, of course, is another story.
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Old Jan 26, 16, 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by husseinbadr View Post

I am unable to check what RJ would have charged its own FF members, but presumably it would not have been more than USD90.
598USD+143,640 miles.
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Old Jan 26, 16, 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
BA charges whatever YQ the carrier would itself charge on a revenue booking
For some reason BA charges less for S7 domestic flights,than S7 to their own FF members.
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