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Old May 27, 2017, 5:15 am
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But he/she does it anytime anything IT related goes wrong. It's not like BA didn't have any issues before the outsourcing.
difference was that before outsourcing, BA had a team of highly experienced professionals ready to respond, I know because they trained me and I became one.
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:24 am
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Sadly still waiting for answers to my questions last time this user posted on the subject

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Old May 27, 2017, 5:28 am
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Sadly still waiting for answers to my questions last time this user posted on the subject

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I'd love to respond but am unfortunately still under nda.
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:28 am
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I'd love to respond but am unfortunately still under nda.
I am sure you are
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:31 am
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Operation Karma.
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:34 am
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Operation Karma.
some might say......
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:36 am
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I sure all the BA volunteers will be able to sort it out!
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by capin
I'd love to respond but am unfortunately still under nda.
Can you at least say if Altea is SaaS?
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:38 am
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I sure all the BA volunteers will be able to sort it out!
still a sore point?? Wasn't a fan myself.
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Tata do IT for Formula 1, but I bet they get paid a hell of a lot more than BA pay them.
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Old May 27, 2017, 5:49 am
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still a sore point?? Wasn't a fan myself.
Manchester sales are the lastest to lose their jobs, not even the ones that trained as cabin crew are being offered any flying jobs.
It does seem that when you volunteer you are not missed and you have identified your role as being surpluse to requirements.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:04 am
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:15 am
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They've been there for a while now. I've recently flown a lot of qr business and am out in southern Thailand after flying out in cx first. Both products destroy anything ba have to offer, the gulf is enormous.
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Old May 27, 2017, 10:23 am
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Found this rather interesting

Home Office (May) ignores plight of BA IT staff as job offshoring looms
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Old May 27, 2017, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Sadly still waiting for answers to my questions last time this user posted on the subject

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28232514-post12.html

You wont get your answers. Both BA and the outsourced provider - if they are at fault - wouldn't want the details published. Therefore it'll be impossible to tell if the failure was due to the part of IT that was outsourced, and if so, due to the quality of the outsourcing.

I manage IT outsourcing providers for a living and outsourcing does work, if done properly. Plenty of economies of scale and efficiencies of resources that outsource providers offer that internal IT departments within companies cannot.

In my experience, a fully managed outsourcing agreement can be more cost effective for companies without increasing risk. Plenty of companies do this - there are savings, and IT services are also sometimes improved after outsourcing.

The other option is if a particular client/company wants the absolute cheapest outsourcing deal - i.e. pushing the limits of cost savings. As a consequence the outsourced provider will obviously cut costs. That may mean lack of staff, and/or inexperienced staff maintaining/developing the systems which significantly increases the risk of a catastrophic failure.

We don't know the details of today's outage, however knowing BA, which outsourcing option do think they would have gone for?
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