Jan 17, 2016, 2:51 pm
Last edit by: Tobias-UK
** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January - changes to reference posts to follow - see here for details**
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2015 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post # 445 for an archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
From Europe
17DEC | Ł0.75/TP | Ł909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
01NOV | Ł0.99/TP | Ł1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
23SEP | Ł1.30/TP | Ł726 | 560 | AMS-LHR-JFK-CLT-SJU//SJU-MIA-JFK-LHR-CDG | D/I/A/I/I/A/I/D | ITA Matrix | Blackberryaddict
14AUG | Ł1.31/TP | Ł470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
02NOV | Ł1.33/TP | Ł583 | 440 | LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR | IIIIIIIIII | Google Flights | armouredant | 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
29MAR | Ł1.54/TP | Ł1282 | 830 | AMS-LHR-JFK-MIA(stop)EZE(stop)DFW-JFK(stop)-LHR-DUB | RIAIIAAR | AA.com (Stopovers in MIA and JFK - 3 days) | docgasman
08FEB | Ł1.57/TP | Ł346 | 260 | JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK | I/I/I/I | BA.com ramops
19 APR | Ł 1.64/TP | Ł1708 | 1040 | DUB-LHR-MIA-LAX-SFO-MIA-LHR-DUB | IAAAAAAI | thepowerbook | MIA-LAX & LAX-MIA in F on the 77W TR | AA
17AUG | Ł1.67/TP | Ł1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
06 FEB | Ł1.78/TP | Ł1590 | 900 | BRU-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIAAAAII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
26JUL | Ł1.81/TP | Ł72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
06 FEB | Ł1.85/TP | Ł1818 | 980 | BRU-MAD-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIIAAAAIII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
1JAN | Ł1.85/TP | Ł444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV | Ł1.89/TP | Ł377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | Ł1.89/TP | Ł1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | Ł1.91/TP | Ł1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for Ł20 less but 40TP less
24NOV | Ł1.91/TP | Ł765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
18MAR | Ł1.95/TP | Ł1481 | 760 | TXL-LHR-KUL-HKG-CGK-HKG-SIN-LHR-TXL | J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J | BA | Teledude
07AUG | Ł2.00/TP | Ł1280 | 640 |ZRH-JFK-MIA-GRU-JFK-LHR//LCY-ZRH | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | frb98mf | AA | AA/BA
11AUG| Ł2.10/TP | Ł420 | 200 | AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com | MrMutton
07DEC | Ł2.24/TP | Ł942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to Ł865 (Ł2.06/TP)
19JUN | Ł2.25/TP | Ł1,124 | 500 | DUB-LCY-LHR-JFK-MIA-BOS-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/I/I (ILN4S4Z1) | BA Phone | Murray | BA AA
22JAN | Ł2.29/TP | Ł640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
01FEB | Ł2.38/TP | Ł570 | 240 | DUB-LHR-MAD//MAD-FRA-MAD//MAD-LHR-DUB | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | BA / LAN | MrMutton
13NOV | Ł2.56/TP | Ł410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
10OCT | Ł2.84/TP | Ł1187 | 420 | LIN-LHR-CTU-HKG//HKG-LHR//LGW-MAD-AGP | J/I/I/I/I/I | BA | megaloman | combined advance sale to CTU from Italy (outbound) and Spain (inbound)
20 Oct | Ł2.73/TP | Ł1750 | 640 | LHR-AMM-BKK-HKG//HKG-BKK-AMM-LHR | D-RJ/D-RJ/D-CX//D-CX/D-RJ/D-RJ | RJ | Frequentflyer99 | Only bookable by RJ over the tel as BKK/HKG/BKK legs on CX can't be booked online or by TA's. RJ res supervisor managed it with great difficulty !
From North, Central and South America
25APR | Ł0.52/TP | Ł531| 1020 | SFO-CLT-ATL-DCA-MIA-PTY-MIA-CLT-RDU-DCA-PIT-JFK-PHX-YVR | A/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | craigthemif | overnights in ATL, PTY, RDU and PIT | AA
24APR | Ł0.53/TP | Ł629 | 1180 | LAX-PHX-JFK-DCA-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY return | A/A/A/Y/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | aa.com | timezonehopper | Requires 3 overnights | AA
22MAR | Ł0.62/TP | Ł287.00 | 460 | HNL-LAX-PHL-NAS | A/A/I | aa.com | Tafflyer | many dates available up to June 2016
11APR | Ł0.76/TP | Ł281.00 | 370 | LAX-SAN-PHX-PHL-NAS | A/A/A/I | Orbitz | Far Siren
08NOV | Ł0.84/TP | Ł772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
05FEB | Ł0.98/TP | Ł492 | 500 | SEA-CLT-SJU-MIA-SEA | A/I/I/A | aa.com | OWBA | Almost identical price for routing through JFK
30JAN | Ł1.02/TP | Ł509 | 500 | JFK-PHX-SJD-PHX-JFK | P/I/I/P | aa.com | OverTheHorizon | Decent flight & connection times, though overnight return from PHX is in a 737 recliner !!
13APR | Ł1.05/TP | Ł378 | 360 | LGA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-PHL-LGA | P/P/P/P/P/P | AA.com | sebanto2001 (thanks to henkybaby) | can be done on one day
13NOV | Ł1.06/TP | Ł705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
with early morning departure from LGA and late come back
03FEB | Ł1.23/TP | Ł665 | 540 | SEA-PHX-PHL-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | PHX-PHL is a redeye
07JAN|Ł1.24/TP | Ł668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
02NOV | Ł1.27/TP | Ł1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
13MAR | Ł1.28/TP | Ł719 | 560 | SEA-MIA-BZE-MIA-CLT-SEA | P/I/I/P/P | aa.com | OWBA
06FEB | Ł1.30/TP | Ł1351 | 1040 | HNL-PHX-SEA-CLT-SJU-CLT-SEA-PHX-HNL | A/P/A/I/I/A/P/A | aa.com | OWBA
02-NOV|Ł1.34/TP|Ł855|660|IAD-CLT-JFK-TUC-PHX-PHL-DCA|all P|aa.com|headinclouds|PHX-PHL can be lieflat 332 or 757 angle seats; pre Brexit Ł1.12/TP
23JAN | Ł1.43/TP | Ł343 | 240 | PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-RDU | P/P/P/P | aa.com | JDBelfast
18FEB | Ł1.48/TP | Ł356 | 240 | SEA-PHX-LAX-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | Easy one-day run
27MAR | Ł1.50/TP | Ł900 | 600 | LGA-CLT-LAX-SFO-CLT-LGA | P/P/P/P/P | aa.com | omarr135
26 APR | Ł1.57/TP | Ł786 | 500 | YVR-PHX-JFK-PHX-YVR | D/A/A/D | aa.com | theultimateflyer
06NOV | Ł1.67/TP | Ł66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
14JUL | Ł0.55/TP | Ł200 | 360 | BKK-KUL-PEK-KUL-BKK | Z |
10AUG | Ł0.99/TP | Ł79 | 80 | KUL-PEN-KUL | Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Fitch | Various date in Oct, most trips require 3+ nights but can nest PEN-KUL-PEN
24MAY | Ł1.18/TP | Ł425 | 360 | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | neo | can be finish within 24 hours / can be BKK instead of SIN but long layover | MH
11JAN | Ł1.26/TP | Ł707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | Ł1.68/TP | Ł940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
06JAN | Ł1.86/TP | Ł856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JUL | Ł1.35/TP | Ł216 | 160 | SIN-KUL-KCH r/t| Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com
24SEP | Ł1.09/TP | Ł437 | 400 | CMB-DOH-AUH-DOH-CMB | R/A/A/R | qatarairways.com | MeltingAlf | QR | AUH can be substituted with DXB and DWC for Ł3 more - be careful about being given Y instead of F on DOH-UAE leg - both price the same - MCT can be substituted for about Ł40 less and sub Ł1/TP
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. the guide to using ITA matrix in post #2 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520
Warnings:
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2015 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from DUB to US ILN4S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,362, LAS - €1,530, LAX - €1,622, HNL - €1,593, no stopovers, needs to be booked by 30 June, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,533, MIA - €1,596, LAS - €1,746, LAX - €1,849, HNL - €1,804, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
See here in post # 445 for an archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
From Europe
17DEC | Ł0.75/TP | Ł909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
01NOV | Ł0.99/TP | Ł1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
23SEP | Ł1.30/TP | Ł726 | 560 | AMS-LHR-JFK-CLT-SJU//SJU-MIA-JFK-LHR-CDG | D/I/A/I/I/A/I/D | ITA Matrix | Blackberryaddict
14AUG | Ł1.31/TP | Ł470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
02NOV | Ł1.33/TP | Ł583 | 440 | LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR | IIIIIIIIII | Google Flights | armouredant | 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
29MAR | Ł1.54/TP | Ł1282 | 830 | AMS-LHR-JFK-MIA(stop)EZE(stop)DFW-JFK(stop)-LHR-DUB | RIAIIAAR | AA.com (Stopovers in MIA and JFK - 3 days) | docgasman
08FEB | Ł1.57/TP | Ł346 | 260 | JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK | I/I/I/I | BA.com ramops
19 APR | Ł 1.64/TP | Ł1708 | 1040 | DUB-LHR-MIA-LAX-SFO-MIA-LHR-DUB | IAAAAAAI | thepowerbook | MIA-LAX & LAX-MIA in F on the 77W TR | AA
17AUG | Ł1.67/TP | Ł1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
06 FEB | Ł1.78/TP | Ł1590 | 900 | BRU-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIAAAAII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
26JUL | Ł1.81/TP | Ł72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
06 FEB | Ł1.85/TP | Ł1818 | 980 | BRU-MAD-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIIAAAAIII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
1JAN | Ł1.85/TP | Ł444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV | Ł1.89/TP | Ł377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | Ł1.89/TP | Ł1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | Ł1.91/TP | Ł1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for Ł20 less but 40TP less
24NOV | Ł1.91/TP | Ł765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
18MAR | Ł1.95/TP | Ł1481 | 760 | TXL-LHR-KUL-HKG-CGK-HKG-SIN-LHR-TXL | J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J | BA | Teledude
07AUG | Ł2.00/TP | Ł1280 | 640 |ZRH-JFK-MIA-GRU-JFK-LHR//LCY-ZRH | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | frb98mf | AA | AA/BA
11AUG| Ł2.10/TP | Ł420 | 200 | AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com | MrMutton
07DEC | Ł2.24/TP | Ł942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to Ł865 (Ł2.06/TP)
19JUN | Ł2.25/TP | Ł1,124 | 500 | DUB-LCY-LHR-JFK-MIA-BOS-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/I/I (ILN4S4Z1) | BA Phone | Murray | BA AA
22JAN | Ł2.29/TP | Ł640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
01FEB | Ł2.38/TP | Ł570 | 240 | DUB-LHR-MAD//MAD-FRA-MAD//MAD-LHR-DUB | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | BA / LAN | MrMutton
13NOV | Ł2.56/TP | Ł410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
10OCT | Ł2.84/TP | Ł1187 | 420 | LIN-LHR-CTU-HKG//HKG-LHR//LGW-MAD-AGP | J/I/I/I/I/I | BA | megaloman | combined advance sale to CTU from Italy (outbound) and Spain (inbound)
20 Oct | Ł2.73/TP | Ł1750 | 640 | LHR-AMM-BKK-HKG//HKG-BKK-AMM-LHR | D-RJ/D-RJ/D-CX//D-CX/D-RJ/D-RJ | RJ | Frequentflyer99 | Only bookable by RJ over the tel as BKK/HKG/BKK legs on CX can't be booked online or by TA's. RJ res supervisor managed it with great difficulty !
From North, Central and South America
25APR | Ł0.52/TP | Ł531| 1020 | SFO-CLT-ATL-DCA-MIA-PTY-MIA-CLT-RDU-DCA-PIT-JFK-PHX-YVR | A/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | craigthemif | overnights in ATL, PTY, RDU and PIT | AA
24APR | Ł0.53/TP | Ł629 | 1180 | LAX-PHX-JFK-DCA-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY return | A/A/A/Y/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | aa.com | timezonehopper | Requires 3 overnights | AA
22MAR | Ł0.62/TP | Ł287.00 | 460 | HNL-LAX-PHL-NAS | A/A/I | aa.com | Tafflyer | many dates available up to June 2016
11APR | Ł0.76/TP | Ł281.00 | 370 | LAX-SAN-PHX-PHL-NAS | A/A/A/I | Orbitz | Far Siren
08NOV | Ł0.84/TP | Ł772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
05FEB | Ł0.98/TP | Ł492 | 500 | SEA-CLT-SJU-MIA-SEA | A/I/I/A | aa.com | OWBA | Almost identical price for routing through JFK
30JAN | Ł1.02/TP | Ł509 | 500 | JFK-PHX-SJD-PHX-JFK | P/I/I/P | aa.com | OverTheHorizon | Decent flight & connection times, though overnight return from PHX is in a 737 recliner !!
13APR | Ł1.05/TP | Ł378 | 360 | LGA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-PHL-LGA | P/P/P/P/P/P | AA.com | sebanto2001 (thanks to henkybaby) | can be done on one day
13NOV | Ł1.06/TP | Ł705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
with early morning departure from LGA and late come back
03FEB | Ł1.23/TP | Ł665 | 540 | SEA-PHX-PHL-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | PHX-PHL is a redeye
07JAN|Ł1.24/TP | Ł668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
02NOV | Ł1.27/TP | Ł1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
13MAR | Ł1.28/TP | Ł719 | 560 | SEA-MIA-BZE-MIA-CLT-SEA | P/I/I/P/P | aa.com | OWBA
06FEB | Ł1.30/TP | Ł1351 | 1040 | HNL-PHX-SEA-CLT-SJU-CLT-SEA-PHX-HNL | A/P/A/I/I/A/P/A | aa.com | OWBA
02-NOV|Ł1.34/TP|Ł855|660|IAD-CLT-JFK-TUC-PHX-PHL-DCA|all P|aa.com|headinclouds|PHX-PHL can be lieflat 332 or 757 angle seats; pre Brexit Ł1.12/TP
23JAN | Ł1.43/TP | Ł343 | 240 | PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-RDU | P/P/P/P | aa.com | JDBelfast
18FEB | Ł1.48/TP | Ł356 | 240 | SEA-PHX-LAX-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | Easy one-day run
27MAR | Ł1.50/TP | Ł900 | 600 | LGA-CLT-LAX-SFO-CLT-LGA | P/P/P/P/P | aa.com | omarr135
26 APR | Ł1.57/TP | Ł786 | 500 | YVR-PHX-JFK-PHX-YVR | D/A/A/D | aa.com | theultimateflyer
06NOV | Ł1.67/TP | Ł66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
14JUL | Ł0.55/TP | Ł200 | 360 | BKK-KUL-PEK-KUL-BKK | Z |
10AUG | Ł0.99/TP | Ł79 | 80 | KUL-PEN-KUL | Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Fitch | Various date in Oct, most trips require 3+ nights but can nest PEN-KUL-PEN
24MAY | Ł1.18/TP | Ł425 | 360 | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | neo | can be finish within 24 hours / can be BKK instead of SIN but long layover | MH
11JAN | Ł1.26/TP | Ł707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | Ł1.68/TP | Ł940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
06JAN | Ł1.86/TP | Ł856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JUL | Ł1.35/TP | Ł216 | 160 | SIN-KUL-KCH r/t| Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com
24SEP | Ł1.09/TP | Ł437 | 400 | CMB-DOH-AUH-DOH-CMB | R/A/A/R | qatarairways.com | MeltingAlf | QR | AUH can be substituted with DXB and DWC for Ł3 more - be careful about being given Y instead of F on DOH-UAE leg - both price the same - MCT can be substituted for about Ł40 less and sub Ł1/TP
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. the guide to using ITA matrix in post #2 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520
Warnings:
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2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 master thread
Jan 17, 2016, 2:48 pm
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BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 master thread
This thread is a continuation of the hugely popular BA Tier Point runs 2015 thread. This is intended to be a starting point for finding key origin and destinations to tailor your tier point runs, but you will still need to do some leg work to find the correct dates and flights. Also, don't forget that with some of these fares there will be positioning and other costs associated to get to the start of the tier point run.
Acknowledgments
Special thanks to all members who graciously supported the 2015 BA Tier Point runs thread, in particular those who tirelessly updated the thread's wikipost and those that offer advice and comments in response to the many queries posted. Much of the new information incorporated into this primer was transferred over from the old wiki, but it has been updated and refreshed where necessary.
Contents
Introduction and primer
Starting your run from Continental Europe to the US & Internal US flights, and Working with itamatrix and Google Flights
Other Types of Runs and Travel to and in the East
Irregular Operations & Original Routing Credits
Working with ticket rules
Historical data (Wikipost archive)
IntroductionStarting your run from Continental Europe to the US & Internal US flights, and Working with itamatrix and Google Flights
Other Types of Runs and Travel to and in the East
Irregular Operations & Original Routing Credits
Working with ticket rules
Historical data (Wikipost archive)
Unlike Avios points which can be earned through a multitude of activities, Tier Points can only be earned through the pursuit of flying and are earned on all commercial BA and oneworld fares (subject to a few exceptions). The number of Tier Points you accrue is entirely dependent on the fare class (or selling class in BA lingo) your tickets are booked in. Below is the full earning chart which covers BA flights and oneworld partner flights. Please note, while flights on BA partners such as Alaska Airlines, and Meridiana may earn Avios points, they will not award Tier Points. See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...l#post25948899 for more details.
In particular, as reported here, from 26 January 2015 flights on AS metal flown under the AS number or AA metal flown under the AS codeshare earn avios only, AS metal flown under the AA codeshare earn no avios or TPs.
Also currently Aer Lingus does not earn Tier Points if booked under the EI flight number, although they do earn a small amount of avios. With the purchase and integration of EI in to oneworld more and more EI flights now have BA codeshares which can be booked on ba.com as standalone flights. If booked under the BA codeshare the flight will earn Tier Points. In addition it may be expected that EI will become a full Tier Point and Avios earning oneworld partner airline in due course, although there is no indication yet on a specific date for this.
† This table now reflects our understanding that the TP earn rate for lowest economy is applicable to some non-BA flights as well as BA flights. The ba.com calculator (which can be found under the Flight Calculator link here) has also been updated in late 2015 to reflect this. The page also provides lists for all oneworld carriers for Tier Point earnings. Some booking classes on some carrier will not earn Tier Points so prior to booking you should check the relevant table for that carrier – if a booking class is not included in the table you must assume it will not earn any Tier Points.
Also note that if you’re booked to travel from the UK to Australia, but with a stop-over (i.e. booked as two flight numbers), it will count as two long haul flights, so you will actually earn slightly more than if it was booked as a single flight (e.g. 300=160+140 in Club vs. 240 for straight through).
When using the calculator on ba.com a breakdown of Tier Points for each booking class is now shown for BA and all other oneworld partner as shown below. For example, for JFK-MIA economy earnings range from 5 to 20 depending on what booking class you have.
The lowest booking classes in economy for all carriers are:
Lowest economy booking classes
BA: Q, O, and G
AA: G, Q, N, O, and S
AB: Q, O, G, P, E, and W
AY: A, G, N, O, Q, R, S, W, and Z
CX: K, L, M, N, Q, S, V
EC: Q, O, and G
IB: Q, O, and P
JL: N and Q
MH: L, V, and S
QR: T, Q, and O
RJ: H, K, L, M, N, O, Q, V, W, and S
QF: M, K, L, N, G, Q, S, V, and O
S7: M, L, V, T, R, S, N, Q, and O
UL: L, R, V, S, N, Q, O, and G
BA/AY short haul+ routes:BA: Q, O, and G
AA: G, Q, N, O, and S
AB: Q, O, G, P, E, and W
AY: A, G, N, O, Q, R, S, W, and Z
CX: K, L, M, N, Q, S, V
EC: Q, O, and G
IB: Q, O, and P
JL: N and Q
MH: L, V, and S
QR: T, Q, and O
RJ: H, K, L, M, N, O, Q, V, W, and S
QF: M, K, L, N, G, Q, S, V, and O
S7: M, L, V, T, R, S, N, Q, and O
UL: L, R, V, S, N, Q, O, and G
Several short haul routes earn double Tier Points due to their extended length, such as:
LHR to/from Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Chania (CHQ) due to start 30 April 2016, Corfu (CFU), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kalamata (KLX) due to start 30 April 2016, Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS), Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Reykjavik (KEF), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to/from Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV), Dalaman (DLM), Fuerteventura (FUE), Heraklion (HER), Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA), Madeira Funchal (FNC), Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO), Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH), Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to/from LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to/from Helsinki (HEL) (operated by N7 for AY).
EDI to/from Helsinki (HEL) operated by AY (due to start April 2016 and indicated as earning shorthaul+ Tier Points on the BA calculator.
The following charts illustrate these routes currently operated out of London/UK.
BA: LHR - HEL | LED | KEF
AY: MAN | EDI - HEL
LGW - ACE | ALG | FNC | FUE | LPA | MLA | RAK | SKG | SSH | TFS | TIA
LHR - KBP | IST | LPA | OTP | SOF
LCY - JMK | JTR
LGW - BJV | DLM | HER | LCA | PFO | RHO
LHR - ATH | CFU | CHQ | JMK | JTR | KGS | KLX | LCA
List of BA/other long haul, 6,000 miles and over:
BA: LGW - MRU | LIM
BA: LHR - CPT | EZE | HND | KUL | NRT | SIN
AA: DFW - HKG | ICN | NRT | PEK | PVG
AA: LAX - AKL | PVG | SYD
AA: ORD - PEK | PVG | NRT
CX: HKG - BOS | JFK | LAX | ORD | SFO | YVR | YYZ | JNB
IB: MAD - EZE | SCL | MVD
JJ: GRU - FRA
JL: NRT - BOS | CDG | DFW | JFK | ORD
JL: HND - LHR | CDG
LA: SCL - MAD (onward to FRA)
LA: SCL - AKL
MH: KUL - LHR
QF: BNE - LAX
QF: MEL - DXB | LAX
QF: SYD - DFW | DXB | JNB | LAX | SCL | SFO | YVR
QR: DOH - ADL | AKL | ATL | BOS | DFW | GRU | IAD | IAH | JFK | LAX | MEL | MIA | ORD | PHL | SCL | SYD | YUL
RJ: AMM - ORD | DTW
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Jan 17, 2016, 2:48 pm
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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs (140/40) and avios after mid January - changes to posts to follow - see here for details**
Starting your run from Continental Europe
Here are a few popular examples to give you a flavour of what can be achieved at a relatively respectable price. Note, any fare prices shown in this post are indicative and reflect the rates checked at the time of writing. Fares do vary considerably, so check this thread from time to time for prevailing fares/offers/promotions etc.
Staring from Continental Europe is typically referred to as an exEU - so this includes starting from anywhere in Europe but excludes bookings starting from the UK which are termed exUK. Typically good places to start are Dublin (DUB) and Copenhagen (CPH) if going to the US, and Oslo (OSL) or Stockholm (ARN) if heading to the Far East or Australia. However, sales from these and other starting points often come up and you should check this thread for up to date information.
Naturally, to get to the most cost advantageous origin, positioning flights (and most likely, overnight accommodation) is an inevitable factor. Dublin is the flavour of the moment for cheap (I class) transatlantic flights in business class. Thanks to the BA/AA/US Joint Business Venture, it is now possible to construct connections within the United States for very little extra. However, the lowest I class fares usually come with stop over and Saturday night stay restrictions, but it is possible to spread out your itinerary by constructing connections of up to 24 hours, if you prefer a trip that is gentler on the body.
The example above would earn 40+140+210+60+60+210+140+40 = 900 TPs in total.
The general principle to maximise your points here are to do a run along the lines of:
DUB-(HEL)-LON-EEE-WWW-DES
HEL is optional and will get you an additional 80 TPs for the HEL-LHR flight but is much more time consuming. If you do want to fly via HEL consider starting from CPH as the CPH-HEL flight will be much shorter than DUB-HEL and both earn 40 TPs.
EEE is any connection on the East Coast of the US, WWW is a connection on the West Coast of the US, and DES is whatever destination you want with those in Hawaii being particularly preferred (HNL, KOA, LIH, and OGG). Also make sure that EEE and WWW are more than 2,000 miles apart and the route is operated by two class planes so that you book as domestic first in A or P class and get 210 TPs. There is a list of > 2,000 mile routes further down this thread. Doing a run like this would allow earnings of:
DUB-HNL (exc. HEL) = 40+140+210+210+210+210+140+40 = 1,200 TPs
DUB-HNL (inc. HEL both ways) = 40+80+140+210+210+210+210+140+80+40 = 1,360 TPs
1,360 TPs is the maximum you can generally earn on an exEU run to the US as the fare rules typically allow two connections in each region only (i.e. two in Europe and two in the US).
Where to Book
A question which come up many times is where to price up these more complex itineraries and where to book them. There are a few options and these include aa.com (multi-city tool), itamatrix, and google flights. The latter two don’t allow for booking but once you have them priced up you can book on aa.com or call BA to book over the phone. There are some notes on itamatrix and google flights further down.
If booking over the phone just tell the agent what flights you want, the dates, and the booking classes. The advantage of booking with BA rather than with AA online is that only BA tickets (those starting 125-…) can be upgraded with avios and you get 3x avios for BA spend if you have a BA Amex Premium Plus credit card.
BA.com is not a good option for pricing up or booking these kinds of itineraries unless you are doing something very simple like DUB-LHR-JFK-LHR-DUB. The multi-city tool on ba.com is very limited.
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
A quick note on doing UuAs is that you can do these for exEU itineraries (or you can apply a GUF if you have any). The following restrictions for UuAs apply though:
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
There is more information on UuA'ing TA bookings here.
North American domestic first/business class runs
Central America and the Caribbean have become hot spots for TP earning frenzies out of the United States in recent years. AA's Instant Upgrade fares from the west cost to Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, and Panama amongst many other destinations in the region deliver excellent Tier Point yields. So much so, that with a little bit of planning and of course time, it is possible to rack up TPs at an alarming rate.
AA non-stop 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
East US
BDL - LAX
BOS - LAX, PHX
CLT - LAX, PDX, SAN, SEA, SFO, SJC, SMF
DCA - LAS, LAX
EWR - PHX
IAD - LAX
JFK - LAS, LAX*, PHX, SAN, SEA, SFO*
MCO - LAX
MIA - LAS, LAX, SAN, SEA, SFO, SLC
PHL - LAS, LAX, PDX, PHX, SAN, SEA, SFO
PIT - LAX
RDU - LAX
TPA - LAX
West US & Alaska
ANC - DFW, LAX, PHX
LAS - DCA, JFK, MIA, PHL
LAX - ANC, BDL, BOS, CLT, DCA, HNL, IAD, JFK*, KOA, LIH, MCO, MIA, OGG, PHL, PIT, RDU, TPA
PDX - CLT, PHL
PHX - ANC, BOS, EWR, HNL, JFK, KOA, LIH, OGG, PHL
SAN - CLT, JFK, MIA, PHL
SEA - CLT, JFK, MIA, PHL
SFO - CLT, JFK*, MIA, PHL
SJC - CLT
SLC - MIA
SMF - CLT
Mid-US
DFW - ANC, HNL, OGG
Hawaii
HNL - DFW, LAX, PHX
OGG - DFW, LAX, PHX
KOA - LAX, PHX
LIH - LAX, PHX
* only if in the F cabin on a three class A321, if in the business cabin only get 140 TPs
AA stopping 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
Sometimes routes which are not non-stop like SEA-PHX-ATL will code as the same flight number for both segments, which results in a 2000+ mile segment, i.e. 210 TPs in First. For more information and a list of these stopping routes see here courtesy of EsherFlyer, and for those starting and ending at a station that doesn't otherwise have accessible > 2,000 mile segments see here.
DFW to/from ANC, SJU, HNL, and OGG
Note that the DFW-SJU route is a business cabin and not a domestic first cabin so would only earn 140 TPs.
JFK to/from SEA, LAS, SAN, PHX, SFO*, and LAX*
* only if in the F cabin on a three class A321, if in the business cabin only get 140 TPs
LAX to/from ANC, BOS, BDL, JFK*, MIA, DCA, PHL, CLT, IAD, RDU, MCO, TPA, PIT, Hawaii (HNL, OGG, KOA, LIH)
* only if in the F cabin on a three class A321, if in the business cabin only get 140 TPs
PHL to/from SEA, PDX, SFO, LAS, LAX, PHX, and SAN
PHX to/from BOS, EWR, ANC, JFK, PHL, and Hawaii (HNL, OGG, KOA, LIH)
Something to be aware of with premium cabins on flights operated by AA - flights operating entirely within the US are marketed as first class; those operating outwith the US are marketed as business class.
The example above would earn 60+210+40+40+210+60 = 620 TPs in total.
I've highlighted the LAS-LAX-MIA-SJU routing not because it is the best earner. There are other routings that yield a greater sum of TPs and invariably at a better price but because this is a gentle itinerary. The outbound legs can be accomplished in a single day, albeit with an early start. The inbound is even easier and a noon start is possible, a beneficiary of the westerly routing where the changing time zones work in our favour.
Note, the flights between MIA and SJU are sold as business class and thus accrue 40 Tier Points. For those planning a trip from the Midwest or East Coast to San Juan, it is worth considering DFW as a connection point, since DFW and SJU are in excess of 2,000 miles apart and therefore accrue 140 Tier Points.
Examples US internal TP runs from 2015:
Ł1.05 | Ł253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
Ł1.27/TP | Ł1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
Ł1.06/TP | Ł705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale
Ł1.24/TP | Ł668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer
Ł0.39/TP | Ł484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
Ł0.57/TP | Ł554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
Starting your run from Continental Europe
Here are a few popular examples to give you a flavour of what can be achieved at a relatively respectable price. Note, any fare prices shown in this post are indicative and reflect the rates checked at the time of writing. Fares do vary considerably, so check this thread from time to time for prevailing fares/offers/promotions etc.
Staring from Continental Europe is typically referred to as an exEU - so this includes starting from anywhere in Europe but excludes bookings starting from the UK which are termed exUK. Typically good places to start are Dublin (DUB) and Copenhagen (CPH) if going to the US, and Oslo (OSL) or Stockholm (ARN) if heading to the Far East or Australia. However, sales from these and other starting points often come up and you should check this thread for up to date information.
Naturally, to get to the most cost advantageous origin, positioning flights (and most likely, overnight accommodation) is an inevitable factor. Dublin is the flavour of the moment for cheap (I class) transatlantic flights in business class. Thanks to the BA/AA/US Joint Business Venture, it is now possible to construct connections within the United States for very little extra. However, the lowest I class fares usually come with stop over and Saturday night stay restrictions, but it is possible to spread out your itinerary by constructing connections of up to 24 hours, if you prefer a trip that is gentler on the body.
The example above would earn 40+140+210+60+60+210+140+40 = 900 TPs in total.
The general principle to maximise your points here are to do a run along the lines of:
DUB-(HEL)-LON-EEE-WWW-DES
HEL is optional and will get you an additional 80 TPs for the HEL-LHR flight but is much more time consuming. If you do want to fly via HEL consider starting from CPH as the CPH-HEL flight will be much shorter than DUB-HEL and both earn 40 TPs.
EEE is any connection on the East Coast of the US, WWW is a connection on the West Coast of the US, and DES is whatever destination you want with those in Hawaii being particularly preferred (HNL, KOA, LIH, and OGG). Also make sure that EEE and WWW are more than 2,000 miles apart and the route is operated by two class planes so that you book as domestic first in A or P class and get 210 TPs. There is a list of > 2,000 mile routes further down this thread. Doing a run like this would allow earnings of:
DUB-HNL (exc. HEL) = 40+140+210+210+210+210+140+40 = 1,200 TPs
DUB-HNL (inc. HEL both ways) = 40+80+140+210+210+210+210+140+80+40 = 1,360 TPs
1,360 TPs is the maximum you can generally earn on an exEU run to the US as the fare rules typically allow two connections in each region only (i.e. two in Europe and two in the US).
Where to Book
A question which come up many times is where to price up these more complex itineraries and where to book them. There are a few options and these include aa.com (multi-city tool), itamatrix, and google flights. The latter two don’t allow for booking but once you have them priced up you can book on aa.com or call BA to book over the phone. There are some notes on itamatrix and google flights further down.
If booking over the phone just tell the agent what flights you want, the dates, and the booking classes. The advantage of booking with BA rather than with AA online is that only BA tickets (those starting 125-…) can be upgraded with avios and you get 3x avios for BA spend if you have a BA Amex Premium Plus credit card.
BA.com is not a good option for pricing up or booking these kinds of itineraries unless you are doing something very simple like DUB-LHR-JFK-LHR-DUB. The multi-city tool on ba.com is very limited.
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
A quick note on doing UuAs is that you can do these for exEU itineraries (or you can apply a GUF if you have any). The following restrictions for UuAs apply though:
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
- BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers
- Tickets issued on non-BA stock
There is more information on UuA'ing TA bookings here.
North American domestic first/business class runs
Central America and the Caribbean have become hot spots for TP earning frenzies out of the United States in recent years. AA's Instant Upgrade fares from the west cost to Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, and Panama amongst many other destinations in the region deliver excellent Tier Point yields. So much so, that with a little bit of planning and of course time, it is possible to rack up TPs at an alarming rate.
Planning and booking tips
There are a few online tools which you should be aware and familiar with, and these will help you a lot when booking Tier Point runs.
The following diagrams illustrate AA routes greater than 2,000 miles. Note, the forward cabin on AA flights serving Canada and the Caribbean are sold as business rather than first class. Routes are subject to change so again downloading the latest timetable from aa.com is recommended.There are a few online tools which you should be aware and familiar with, and these will help you a lot when booking Tier Point runs.
- When pricing up comparative routes, Google Flights is by far the most speedy and simple method. Enter origin and destination; dates of travel; select business class; select oneworld in Airline filter; then Expand map to display requested route and comparative fares for nearly destinations.
- If you need greater complexity, the ITA Matrix tool is highly recommended. It displays a wider range of options than Google Flights and detailed fare rules. It’s great for trip planning at a forensic level. A guide to using the ITA Matrix tool can be found here, and here,: and externally here. Note, the ITA Matrix tool cannot be used to book tickets
- If you're old school, like me, the first step is to download and immerse oneself in AA's flight schedule: The current timetable is available, here.
- Familiarise yourself with AA.com's Multi-City booking tool. Don't leave more than 24 hours between flights. Use the Sort by schedule option to locate the exact flights you found on the ITA Matrix tool.
- Select city pairs (if possible) in excess of 2,000 miles apart (see charts below)
- It is worth adding a few cautionary words about AA Domestic First where the service shares a flight number with an international flight, as J, D, and I class inventory may be sold before regular F, A, and P inventory is offered for sale on the down gauged domestic flight(s).
- Avoid AA codeshare flights on non-oneworld metal. There is no TP credit on these flights
- A321 (32B) - These AA narrow-bodies ply Transcon routes between JFK and LAX/SFO with business and first class. Well equipped, they are a very comfortable way to travel between coasts
- 757 - As fantastically racy as these aircraft are, the first class seat requires a health warning. Think very carefully before committing yourself to a 5 hour red-eye 757 flight. Row 1 on the 757 is also worth avoiding.
- 777 - Yes the big birds do operate on a few domestic routes (eg. MIA-LAX). Unlike their senior, and more petite 767-300 siblings, seats on the 777 aircraft are sold as business as well as the usual first and economy classes
- MD-80 - Once the workhorse of AA's fleet but numbers are dwindling fast. Its first class cabin provides a reassuringly quiet ride
- MCO - As American Airlines' low yield focus city, Orlando is your friend
- Schedule changes - AA routinely gives its domestic timetable a jolly good shake (twice a year) so if you've booked your flights with plenty of advanced notice, expect a few changes to happen between now and the date of departure
- For more information about using the ITA Matrix tool, planning trips that begin in Continental Europe and Ireland, as well as airports favourable to back-to-back turnarounds, see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ing-guide.html
AA non-stop 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
East US
BDL - LAX
BOS - LAX, PHX
CLT - LAX, PDX, SAN, SEA, SFO, SJC, SMF
DCA - LAS, LAX
EWR - PHX
IAD - LAX
JFK - LAS, LAX*, PHX, SAN, SEA, SFO*
MCO - LAX
MIA - LAS, LAX, SAN, SEA, SFO, SLC
PHL - LAS, LAX, PDX, PHX, SAN, SEA, SFO
PIT - LAX
RDU - LAX
TPA - LAX
West US & Alaska
ANC - DFW, LAX, PHX
LAS - DCA, JFK, MIA, PHL
LAX - ANC, BDL, BOS, CLT, DCA, HNL, IAD, JFK*, KOA, LIH, MCO, MIA, OGG, PHL, PIT, RDU, TPA
PDX - CLT, PHL
PHX - ANC, BOS, EWR, HNL, JFK, KOA, LIH, OGG, PHL
SAN - CLT, JFK, MIA, PHL
SEA - CLT, JFK, MIA, PHL
SFO - CLT, JFK*, MIA, PHL
SJC - CLT
SLC - MIA
SMF - CLT
Mid-US
DFW - ANC, HNL, OGG
Hawaii
HNL - DFW, LAX, PHX
OGG - DFW, LAX, PHX
KOA - LAX, PHX
LIH - LAX, PHX
* only if in the F cabin on a three class A321, if in the business cabin only get 140 TPs
AA stopping 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
Sometimes routes which are not non-stop like SEA-PHX-ATL will code as the same flight number for both segments, which results in a 2000+ mile segment, i.e. 210 TPs in First. For more information and a list of these stopping routes see here courtesy of EsherFlyer, and for those starting and ending at a station that doesn't otherwise have accessible > 2,000 mile segments see here.
DFW to/from ANC, SJU, HNL, and OGG
Note that the DFW-SJU route is a business cabin and not a domestic first cabin so would only earn 140 TPs.
JFK to/from SEA, LAS, SAN, PHX, SFO*, and LAX*
* only if in the F cabin on a three class A321, if in the business cabin only get 140 TPs
LAX to/from ANC, BOS, BDL, JFK*, MIA, DCA, PHL, CLT, IAD, RDU, MCO, TPA, PIT, Hawaii (HNL, OGG, KOA, LIH)
* only if in the F cabin on a three class A321, if in the business cabin only get 140 TPs
PHL to/from SEA, PDX, SFO, LAS, LAX, PHX, and SAN
PHX to/from BOS, EWR, ANC, JFK, PHL, and Hawaii (HNL, OGG, KOA, LIH)
Something to be aware of with premium cabins on flights operated by AA - flights operating entirely within the US are marketed as first class; those operating outwith the US are marketed as business class.
The example above would earn 60+210+40+40+210+60 = 620 TPs in total.
I've highlighted the LAS-LAX-MIA-SJU routing not because it is the best earner. There are other routings that yield a greater sum of TPs and invariably at a better price but because this is a gentle itinerary. The outbound legs can be accomplished in a single day, albeit with an early start. The inbound is even easier and a noon start is possible, a beneficiary of the westerly routing where the changing time zones work in our favour.
Note, the flights between MIA and SJU are sold as business class and thus accrue 40 Tier Points. For those planning a trip from the Midwest or East Coast to San Juan, it is worth considering DFW as a connection point, since DFW and SJU are in excess of 2,000 miles apart and therefore accrue 140 Tier Points.
Examples US internal TP runs from 2015:
Ł1.05 | Ł253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
Ł1.27/TP | Ł1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
Ł1.06/TP | Ł705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale
Ł1.24/TP | Ł668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer
Ł0.39/TP | Ł484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
Ł0.57/TP | Ł554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
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Jan 17, 2016, 2:49 pm
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Qatar Airways and Royal Jordanian deals between the EU and the Far East
While at the time of writing, this option may not represent the best TP earner, RJ and QR do still offer amazing value for business class travel between the Continental Europe and Asia.
The example above would earn 140+140+140+140 = 560 TPs in total.
Examples from 2015:
Ł2.00/TP | Ł1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
Ł1.91/TP | Ł765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
Ł2.19/TP | Ł1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
Business Class travel within Asia
The example above would earn 140+140+140+140 = 560 TPs in total.
Examples from 2015:
Ł1.25/TP | Ł440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
Ł1.43/TP | Ł803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
Ł1.86/TP | Ł856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
Ł1.26/TP | Ł707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
Ł1.68/TP | Ł940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
London Gatwick short haul premium leisure fares
Closer to London, BA's own premium leisure Club Europe fares are not to be sniffed at. In particular LGW short haul CE fares tend to be cheaper than LHR short haul fares. Same day hops between Gatwick, Amsterdam, and Jersey are popular by virtue of the absence of Saturday night stay restrictions on many LGW discounted Club Europe fares. AMS sectors typically price out at around Ł100 per sector (in R class) and at around Ł90 to/from JER (again in R class).
The example above would earn 40+40+40+40 = 160 TPs in total.
Pro-active online upgrades (POUG) and airport upgrades offer additional opportunities to squeeze a few extra Tier Points out of deep discount economy BA tickets.
Also if you do need to overcome Saturday night restrictions or minimum connection times consider buying two singles in economy and hopefully getting a POUG, or nesting two return tickets like this:
Saturday week 1
JER-LGW-MLA (outbound ticket 1)
MLA-JER-LGW (outbound ticket 2)
Sunday week 2
LGW-JER-MLA (inbound ticket 2)
MLA-JER-LGW (inbound ticket 1)
Careful nesting of two tickets will solve both a Saturday night minimum stay problem and allow back to backs since you can circumvent the MCT.
Examples from 2015:
Ł1.33/TP | Ł319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
Ł1.55/TP | Ł248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
Ł1.62/TP | Ł259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
Ł1.69/TP | Ł270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
Ł1.85/TP | Ł444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
Ł2.26/TP | Ł181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
While at the time of writing, this option may not represent the best TP earner, RJ and QR do still offer amazing value for business class travel between the Continental Europe and Asia.
The example above would earn 140+140+140+140 = 560 TPs in total.
Examples from 2015:
Ł2.00/TP | Ł1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
Ł1.91/TP | Ł765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
Ł2.19/TP | Ł1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
Business Class travel within Asia
The example above would earn 140+140+140+140 = 560 TPs in total.
Examples from 2015:
Ł1.25/TP | Ł440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
Ł1.43/TP | Ł803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
Ł1.86/TP | Ł856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
Ł1.26/TP | Ł707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
Ł1.68/TP | Ł940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
London Gatwick short haul premium leisure fares
Closer to London, BA's own premium leisure Club Europe fares are not to be sniffed at. In particular LGW short haul CE fares tend to be cheaper than LHR short haul fares. Same day hops between Gatwick, Amsterdam, and Jersey are popular by virtue of the absence of Saturday night stay restrictions on many LGW discounted Club Europe fares. AMS sectors typically price out at around Ł100 per sector (in R class) and at around Ł90 to/from JER (again in R class).
The example above would earn 40+40+40+40 = 160 TPs in total.
Pro-active online upgrades (POUG) and airport upgrades offer additional opportunities to squeeze a few extra Tier Points out of deep discount economy BA tickets.
Also if you do need to overcome Saturday night restrictions or minimum connection times consider buying two singles in economy and hopefully getting a POUG, or nesting two return tickets like this:
Saturday week 1
JER-LGW-MLA (outbound ticket 1)
MLA-JER-LGW (outbound ticket 2)
Sunday week 2
LGW-JER-MLA (inbound ticket 2)
MLA-JER-LGW (inbound ticket 1)
Careful nesting of two tickets will solve both a Saturday night minimum stay problem and allow back to backs since you can circumvent the MCT.
Examples from 2015:
Ł1.33/TP | Ł319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
Ł1.55/TP | Ł248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
Ł1.62/TP | Ł259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
Ł1.69/TP | Ł270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
Ł1.85/TP | Ł444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
Ł2.26/TP | Ł181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
Jan 17, 2016, 2:49 pm
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Irregular Operations
Irregular operations come part and parcel with air travel. Expect the best but prepare for the worst. In other words, allow plenty of wriggle room in your travel plans, think twice about short connections at MIA during the hurricane season, or at JFK in winter, or at ORD at any time other than spring and fall, noting Chicago's spring and fall seasons while lasting no more than a week each Mother Nature is inclined to blast Chicagoland with her wrath during these short seasons.
Although AA tend to be very helpful rearranging flights, they do often work on the basis of getting you onto the next available service irrespective of fare class. So, for example, If you face a weather related delay they are particularly unwilling to more than that. However if you look at Expert Flyer before approaching the Admirals Club agent then you can be proactive in making suggestions. Note, in rebooking AA flights, there is a risk of instant upgrades ending up as business or worse, economy. If the next available flight is sold out in first, AA are often open to requests for a seat on the following flight that has seats available in first class. This may involve joining the stand-by list. Working with Gate Agents or AAdmirals Club staff pays dividends. It pays to check revised booking class(es) with the agent. This is your only opportunity to ensure the flights are rebooked into the same class as your original booking (A and/or P), and your Tier Points post as planned.
Original Routing Credit
ORC allows you to claim credit for your original routing as you originally booked it in the event you are rerouted on flights that earn fewer Tier Points than you originally booked.
If you booked with BA on a 125 ticket it's in the T&Cs, and there will be no push back should you need to submit a ORC claim, though you will have to claim manually and it will take a few weeks to clear. Occasionally, if the irrop was at the very last moment you'll get the ORC anyway and automatically.
The only stickiness relates to 001 ticket and rerouted on another oneworld flight (typically a re-routed and/or downgraded AA service) which gets less TPs and Avios. In that scenario if you claim ORC, BAEC pushes it to AA (since they are the ones who "pay" the Avios) and their view can be that you get what you travelled and a refund for anything you didn't travel.
Remember that whatever happens to keep your boarding passes, a note of the new PNR, the BA PNR, and the BA ticket number. And don't forget to claim your miles credit for the service if you end up travelling on another alliance, giving the number at the gate or check in, that form of double-dipping has long been considered acceptable.
Irregular operations come part and parcel with air travel. Expect the best but prepare for the worst. In other words, allow plenty of wriggle room in your travel plans, think twice about short connections at MIA during the hurricane season, or at JFK in winter, or at ORD at any time other than spring and fall, noting Chicago's spring and fall seasons while lasting no more than a week each Mother Nature is inclined to blast Chicagoland with her wrath during these short seasons.
Although AA tend to be very helpful rearranging flights, they do often work on the basis of getting you onto the next available service irrespective of fare class. So, for example, If you face a weather related delay they are particularly unwilling to more than that. However if you look at Expert Flyer before approaching the Admirals Club agent then you can be proactive in making suggestions. Note, in rebooking AA flights, there is a risk of instant upgrades ending up as business or worse, economy. If the next available flight is sold out in first, AA are often open to requests for a seat on the following flight that has seats available in first class. This may involve joining the stand-by list. Working with Gate Agents or AAdmirals Club staff pays dividends. It pays to check revised booking class(es) with the agent. This is your only opportunity to ensure the flights are rebooked into the same class as your original booking (A and/or P), and your Tier Points post as planned.
Original Routing Credit
ORC allows you to claim credit for your original routing as you originally booked it in the event you are rerouted on flights that earn fewer Tier Points than you originally booked.
If you booked with BA on a 125 ticket it's in the T&Cs, and there will be no push back should you need to submit a ORC claim, though you will have to claim manually and it will take a few weeks to clear. Occasionally, if the irrop was at the very last moment you'll get the ORC anyway and automatically.
The only stickiness relates to 001 ticket and rerouted on another oneworld flight (typically a re-routed and/or downgraded AA service) which gets less TPs and Avios. In that scenario if you claim ORC, BAEC pushes it to AA (since they are the ones who "pay" the Avios) and their view can be that you get what you travelled and a refund for anything you didn't travel.
Remember that whatever happens to keep your boarding passes, a note of the new PNR, the BA PNR, and the BA ticket number. And don't forget to claim your miles credit for the service if you end up travelling on another alliance, giving the number at the gate or check in, that form of double-dipping has long been considered acceptable.
Jan 17, 2016, 2:50 pm
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What are the rules and restrictions?
Cancellation penalties and stopover fees change from fare to fare and from country to country, although stopovers are usually Euro 200 each-way if you break your journey in London for > 24 hours. Also remember you need to factor in the cost of getting to your point of departure, and potentially the cost of a hotel if you are travelling too far to return in a day (e.g. Cyprus, Athens). whichbudget.com lists budget airlines flying to all major cities, and www.skyscanner.net may also be useful.
In general, you will see the rules are much more flexible for the equivalent fare bucket ex-UK.
Note: BA seem to have clamped down on stopover rules, potentially in light of more widespread use of ex-EU fares. Check your fare rules carefully as lots of fares now limit you to a month’s stopover in the UK at most in either direction.
Cancellation penalties and stopover fees change from fare to fare and from country to country, although stopovers are usually Euro 200 each-way if you break your journey in London for > 24 hours. Also remember you need to factor in the cost of getting to your point of departure, and potentially the cost of a hotel if you are travelling too far to return in a day (e.g. Cyprus, Athens). whichbudget.com lists budget airlines flying to all major cities, and www.skyscanner.net may also be useful.
In general, you will see the rules are much more flexible for the equivalent fare bucket ex-UK.
First fares:
Club World fares
Again, taking the recent ex-AMS I7SALE fares, the rules are:
*A stopover is a transit of an intermediate point that exceeds 24hrs.
A neat trick for the Club fares – if you time your arrival into London and the departure of your long haul segment right, you can essentially have a free nightstop in London without having an 'official' stopover. For example, you arrive from AMS on a Monday at 21:15 and you can then book your long haul flight the next day (Tuesday) at any time up to 21:14 (< 24hrs) and it is NOT charged as a stopover. Book it for 21:15 or later and that'll be much more expensive fare please. Similarly, you can introduce overnight stays at intermediate connecting cities so long as your connections remain under 24 hours.- Unlimited free changes
- Unlimited free stopovers*
- No cancellation penalty
- Return within 12 months
Club World fares
Again, taking the recent ex-AMS I7SALE fares, the rules are:
- Changes charged at €300 each
- Stopovers not permitted
- Cancellation penalty - net fare plus carrier imposed charges
- Return within 12 months
*A stopover is a transit of an intermediate point that exceeds 24hrs.
Note: BA seem to have clamped down on stopover rules, potentially in light of more widespread use of ex-EU fares. Check your fare rules carefully as lots of fares now limit you to a month’s stopover in the UK at most in either direction.
Jan 17, 2016, 2:50 pm
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Historical data
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
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Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
From Europe
17DEC | Ł0.75/TP | Ł909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | Ł0.93/TP | Ł335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | Ł0.99/TP | Ł1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | Ł1.01/TP | Ł1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | Ł1.22/TP | Ł1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | Ł1.27/TP | Ł1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | Ł1.31/TP | Ł470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | Ł1.31/TP | Ł1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | Ł1.34/TP | Ł1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | Ł1.67/TP | Ł1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | Ł1.81/TP | Ł72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | Ł1.89/TP | Ł377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | Ł1.89/TP | Ł1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | Ł1.91/TP | Ł1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for Ł20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | Ł2.56/TP | Ł410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | Ł1.85/TP | Ł444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | Ł1.91/TP | Ł765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | Ł2.24/TP | Ł942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to Ł865 (Ł2.06/TP)
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | Ł0.39/TP | Ł484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | Ł0.55/TP | Ł298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | Ł0.57/TP | Ł554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | Ł0.80/TP | Ł15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | Ł0.84/TP | Ł772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | Ł0.87/TP | Ł808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | Ł1.00/TP | Ł663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | Ł1.05 | Ł253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | Ł1.27/TP | Ł1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | Ł1.37/TP | Ł578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | Ł1.43/TP | Ł400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | Ł1.67/TP | Ł66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | Ł1.06/TP | Ł705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|Ł1.24/TP | Ł668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | Ł1.25/TP | Ł440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | Ł1.68/TP | Ł1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | Ł1.43/TP | Ł803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | Ł1.86/TP | Ł856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | Ł1.26/TP | Ł707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | Ł1.68/TP | Ł940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | Ł0.89/TP | Ł748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | Ł2.00/TP | Ł1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520
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Welcome to the thread — please read the wiki first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
- from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,074, MIA - €1,119, LAS - €1,224, LAX - €1,296, HNL - €1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €920, MIA - €958, LAS - €1,048, LAX - €1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - Ł890, MIA - Ł1,132, ORD - Ł942, LAX - Ł1,277, HNL - Ł1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - Ł890, MIA - Ł1,132, ORD - Ł942, LAX - Ł1,277, HNL - Ł1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (Ł1,520/Ł1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
From Europe
17DEC | Ł0.75/TP | Ł909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | Ł0.93/TP | Ł335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | Ł0.99/TP | Ł1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | Ł1.01/TP | Ł1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | Ł1.22/TP | Ł1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | Ł1.27/TP | Ł1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | Ł1.31/TP | Ł470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | Ł1.31/TP | Ł1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | Ł1.34/TP | Ł1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | Ł1.67/TP | Ł1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | Ł1.81/TP | Ł72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | Ł1.89/TP | Ł377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | Ł1.89/TP | Ł1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | Ł1.91/TP | Ł1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for Ł20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | Ł2.56/TP | Ł410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | Ł1.85/TP | Ł444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | Ł1.91/TP | Ł765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | Ł2.24/TP | Ł942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to Ł865 (Ł2.06/TP)
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | Ł0.39/TP | Ł484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | Ł0.55/TP | Ł298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | Ł0.57/TP | Ł554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | Ł0.80/TP | Ł15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | Ł0.84/TP | Ł772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | Ł0.87/TP | Ł808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | Ł1.00/TP | Ł663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | Ł1.05 | Ł253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | Ł1.27/TP | Ł1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | Ł1.37/TP | Ł578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | Ł1.43/TP | Ł400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | Ł1.67/TP | Ł66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | Ł1.06/TP | Ł705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|Ł1.24/TP | Ł668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | Ł1.25/TP | Ł440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | Ł1.68/TP | Ł1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | Ł1.43/TP | Ł803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | Ł1.86/TP | Ł856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | Ł1.26/TP | Ł707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | Ł1.68/TP | Ł940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | Ł0.89/TP | Ł748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | Ł2.00/TP | Ł1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under Ł300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under Ł500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for Ł520
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Jan 17, 2016, 2:56 pm
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I can confirm we are now in 2016!
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For 45 tier point run, I would suggest booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper), this has worked for me in the past. Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Great guide!
Great guide!
Jan 17, 2016, 3:08 pm
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Huge Thank you KARFA!
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Woo hoo! Well done to KARFA and all of the contributors to the past threads ^
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/misc....sted&t=1642006
9 posts in it. I should have indulged in some post padding to get above Calchas, not that it is a competition of course
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Well done to KARFA - a brilliant effort.
Two minor queries/possible corrections.
In Post#1 within the "Tier Points Earned per Flight Sector" graphic/table you show on the right hand side in red QF (UK-AU) earnings as 30/60/120 for the various economy options. However further down in the post it is shown that the discount economy offering by Qantas (QF) is QF: M, K, L, N, G, Q, S, V, and O
This, and the BA Avios/TP calculator would imply that the only TP's from QF economy are 30 [discounted] and 120[full fare]. Is this true ? I think this is case where the earning on QF is lower than the corresponding fare clase on BA, for some of the economy fares.
Also in Post#1, in the same graphic, in the line below the above QF entry, there are two + missing from the WT[+] entries for long haul and long haul extended.
Two minor queries/possible corrections.
In Post#1 within the "Tier Points Earned per Flight Sector" graphic/table you show on the right hand side in red QF (UK-AU) earnings as 30/60/120 for the various economy options. However further down in the post it is shown that the discount economy offering by Qantas (QF) is QF: M, K, L, N, G, Q, S, V, and O
This, and the BA Avios/TP calculator would imply that the only TP's from QF economy are 30 [discounted] and 120[full fare]. Is this true ? I think this is case where the earning on QF is lower than the corresponding fare clase on BA, for some of the economy fares.
Also in Post#1, in the same graphic, in the line below the above QF entry, there are two + missing from the WT[+] entries for long haul and long haul extended.
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Very many thanks for setting this up KARFA, I appreciate that this is a huge amount of work. This is my favourite thread on FT - lots of people providing helpful advice and very little acrimonious diatribe.
Jan 17, 2016, 3:48 pm
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Well done to KARFA - a brilliant effort.
Two minor queries/possible corrections.
In Post#1 within the "Tier Points Earned per Flight Sector" graphic/table you show on the right hand side in red QF (UK-AU) earnings as 30/60/120 for the various economy options. However further down in the post it is shown that the discount economy offering by Qantas (QF) is QF: M, K, L, N, G, Q, S, V, and O
This, and the BA Avios/TP calculator would imply that the only TP's from QF economy are 30 [discounted] and 120[full fare]. Is this true ? I think this is case where the earning on QF is lower than the corresponding fare clase on BA, for some of the economy fares.
Two minor queries/possible corrections.
In Post#1 within the "Tier Points Earned per Flight Sector" graphic/table you show on the right hand side in red QF (UK-AU) earnings as 30/60/120 for the various economy options. However further down in the post it is shown that the discount economy offering by Qantas (QF) is QF: M, K, L, N, G, Q, S, V, and O
This, and the BA Avios/TP calculator would imply that the only TP's from QF economy are 30 [discounted] and 120[full fare]. Is this true ? I think this is case where the earning on QF is lower than the corresponding fare clase on BA, for some of the economy fares.
- Economy lowest (Q, O, G) 30
- Economy low (K, L, M, N, S, V) 60
- Economy flexible (Y, B, H) 120
With QF:
- Economy lowest (M, K, L, N, G, Q, S, V, O) 30
- Economy flexible (Y, B, H) 120
This is what the BA calculator states.
So there is no 60 TP option for QF unlike BA. I will get the "Tier Points Earned per Flight Sector" graphic amended.