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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January - changes to reference posts to follow - see here for details**
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2015 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post # 445 for an archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
01NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
23SEP | £1.30/TP | £726 | 560 | AMS-LHR-JFK-CLT-SJU//SJU-MIA-JFK-LHR-CDG | D/I/A/I/I/A/I/D | ITA Matrix | Blackberryaddict
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
02NOV | £1.33/TP | £583 | 440 | LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR | IIIIIIIIII | Google Flights | armouredant | 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
29MAR | £1.54/TP | £1282 | 830 | AMS-LHR-JFK-MIA(stop)EZE(stop)DFW-JFK(stop)-LHR-DUB | RIAIIAAR | AA.com (Stopovers in MIA and JFK - 3 days) | docgasman
08FEB | £1.57/TP | £346 | 260 | JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK | I/I/I/I | BA.com ramops
19 APR | £ 1.64/TP | £1708 | 1040 | DUB-LHR-MIA-LAX-SFO-MIA-LHR-DUB | IAAAAAAI | thepowerbook | MIA-LAX & LAX-MIA in F on the 77W TR | AA
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
06 FEB | £1.78/TP | £1590 | 900 | BRU-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIAAAAII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
06 FEB | £1.85/TP | £1818 | 980 | BRU-MAD-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIIAAAAIII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
18MAR | £1.95/TP | £1481 | 760 | TXL-LHR-KUL-HKG-CGK-HKG-SIN-LHR-TXL | J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J | BA | Teledude
07AUG | £2.00/TP | £1280 | 640 |ZRH-JFK-MIA-GRU-JFK-LHR//LCY-ZRH | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | frb98mf | AA | AA/BA
11AUG| £2.10/TP | £420 | 200 | AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com | MrMutton
07DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
19JUN | £2.25/TP | £1,124 | 500 | DUB-LCY-LHR-JFK-MIA-BOS-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/I/I (ILN4S4Z1) | BA Phone | Murray | BA AA
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
01FEB | £2.38/TP | £570 | 240 | DUB-LHR-MAD//MAD-FRA-MAD//MAD-LHR-DUB | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | BA / LAN | MrMutton
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
10OCT | £2.84/TP | £1187 | 420 | LIN-LHR-CTU-HKG//HKG-LHR//LGW-MAD-AGP | J/I/I/I/I/I | BA | megaloman | combined advance sale to CTU from Italy (outbound) and Spain (inbound)
20 Oct | £2.73/TP | £1750 | 640 | LHR-AMM-BKK-HKG//HKG-BKK-AMM-LHR | D-RJ/D-RJ/D-CX//D-CX/D-RJ/D-RJ | RJ | Frequentflyer99 | Only bookable by RJ over the tel as BKK/HKG/BKK legs on CX can't be booked online or by TA's. RJ res supervisor managed it with great difficulty !
From North, Central and South America
25APR | £0.52/TP | £531| 1020 | SFO-CLT-ATL-DCA-MIA-PTY-MIA-CLT-RDU-DCA-PIT-JFK-PHX-YVR | A/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | craigthemif | overnights in ATL, PTY, RDU and PIT | AA
24APR | £0.53/TP | £629 | 1180 | LAX-PHX-JFK-DCA-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY return | A/A/A/Y/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | aa.com | timezonehopper | Requires 3 overnights | AA
22MAR | £0.62/TP | £287.00 | 460 | HNL-LAX-PHL-NAS | A/A/I | aa.com | Tafflyer | many dates available up to June 2016
11APR | £0.76/TP | £281.00 | 370 | LAX-SAN-PHX-PHL-NAS | A/A/A/I | Orbitz | Far Siren
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
05FEB | £0.98/TP | £492 | 500 | SEA-CLT-SJU-MIA-SEA | A/I/I/A | aa.com | OWBA | Almost identical price for routing through JFK
30JAN | £1.02/TP | £509 | 500 | JFK-PHX-SJD-PHX-JFK | P/I/I/P | aa.com | OverTheHorizon | Decent flight & connection times, though overnight return from PHX is in a 737 recliner !!
13APR | £1.05/TP | £378 | 360 | LGA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-PHL-LGA | P/P/P/P/P/P | AA.com | sebanto2001 (thanks to henkybaby) | can be done on one day
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
with early morning departure from LGA and late come back
03FEB | £1.23/TP | £665 | 540 | SEA-PHX-PHL-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | PHX-PHL is a redeye
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
13MAR | £1.28/TP | £719 | 560 | SEA-MIA-BZE-MIA-CLT-SEA | P/I/I/P/P | aa.com | OWBA
06FEB | £1.30/TP | £1351 | 1040 | HNL-PHX-SEA-CLT-SJU-CLT-SEA-PHX-HNL | A/P/A/I/I/A/P/A | aa.com | OWBA
02-NOV|£1.34/TP|£855|660|IAD-CLT-JFK-TUC-PHX-PHL-DCA|all P|aa.com|headinclouds|PHX-PHL can be lieflat 332 or 757 angle seats; pre Brexit £1.12/TP
23JAN | £1.43/TP | £343 | 240 | PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-RDU | P/P/P/P | aa.com | JDBelfast
18FEB | £1.48/TP | £356 | 240 | SEA-PHX-LAX-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | Easy one-day run
27MAR | £1.50/TP | £900 | 600 | LGA-CLT-LAX-SFO-CLT-LGA | P/P/P/P/P | aa.com | omarr135
26 APR | £1.57/TP | £786 | 500 | YVR-PHX-JFK-PHX-YVR | D/A/A/D | aa.com | theultimateflyer
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
14JUL | £0.55/TP | £200 | 360 | BKK-KUL-PEK-KUL-BKK | Z |
10AUG | £0.99/TP | £79 | 80 | KUL-PEN-KUL | Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Fitch | Various date in Oct, most trips require 3+ nights but can nest PEN-KUL-PEN
24MAY | £1.18/TP | £425 | 360 | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | neo | can be finish within 24 hours / can be BKK instead of SIN but long layover | MH
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JUL | £1.35/TP | £216 | 160 | SIN-KUL-KCH r/t| Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com
24SEP | £1.09/TP | £437 | 400 | CMB-DOH-AUH-DOH-CMB | R/A/A/R | qatarairways.com | MeltingAlf | QR | AUH can be substituted with DXB and DWC for £3 more - be careful about being given Y instead of F on DOH-UAE leg - both price the same - MCT can be substituted for about £40 less and sub £1/TP
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. the guide to using ITA matrix in post #2 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
Warnings:
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2015 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from DUB to US ILN4S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,362, LAS - €1,530, LAX - €1,622, HNL - €1,593, no stopovers, needs to be booked by 30 June, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,533, MIA - €1,596, LAS - €1,746, LAX - €1,849, HNL - €1,804, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
See here in post # 445 for an archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
01NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
23SEP | £1.30/TP | £726 | 560 | AMS-LHR-JFK-CLT-SJU//SJU-MIA-JFK-LHR-CDG | D/I/A/I/I/A/I/D | ITA Matrix | Blackberryaddict
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
02NOV | £1.33/TP | £583 | 440 | LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR | IIIIIIIIII | Google Flights | armouredant | 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
29MAR | £1.54/TP | £1282 | 830 | AMS-LHR-JFK-MIA(stop)EZE(stop)DFW-JFK(stop)-LHR-DUB | RIAIIAAR | AA.com (Stopovers in MIA and JFK - 3 days) | docgasman
08FEB | £1.57/TP | £346 | 260 | JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK | I/I/I/I | BA.com ramops
19 APR | £ 1.64/TP | £1708 | 1040 | DUB-LHR-MIA-LAX-SFO-MIA-LHR-DUB | IAAAAAAI | thepowerbook | MIA-LAX & LAX-MIA in F on the 77W TR | AA
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
06 FEB | £1.78/TP | £1590 | 900 | BRU-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIAAAAII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
06 FEB | £1.85/TP | £1818 | 980 | BRU-MAD-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIIAAAAIII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
18MAR | £1.95/TP | £1481 | 760 | TXL-LHR-KUL-HKG-CGK-HKG-SIN-LHR-TXL | J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J | BA | Teledude
07AUG | £2.00/TP | £1280 | 640 |ZRH-JFK-MIA-GRU-JFK-LHR//LCY-ZRH | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | frb98mf | AA | AA/BA
11AUG| £2.10/TP | £420 | 200 | AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com | MrMutton
07DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
19JUN | £2.25/TP | £1,124 | 500 | DUB-LCY-LHR-JFK-MIA-BOS-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/I/I (ILN4S4Z1) | BA Phone | Murray | BA AA
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
01FEB | £2.38/TP | £570 | 240 | DUB-LHR-MAD//MAD-FRA-MAD//MAD-LHR-DUB | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | BA / LAN | MrMutton
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
10OCT | £2.84/TP | £1187 | 420 | LIN-LHR-CTU-HKG//HKG-LHR//LGW-MAD-AGP | J/I/I/I/I/I | BA | megaloman | combined advance sale to CTU from Italy (outbound) and Spain (inbound)
20 Oct | £2.73/TP | £1750 | 640 | LHR-AMM-BKK-HKG//HKG-BKK-AMM-LHR | D-RJ/D-RJ/D-CX//D-CX/D-RJ/D-RJ | RJ | Frequentflyer99 | Only bookable by RJ over the tel as BKK/HKG/BKK legs on CX can't be booked online or by TA's. RJ res supervisor managed it with great difficulty !
From North, Central and South America
25APR | £0.52/TP | £531| 1020 | SFO-CLT-ATL-DCA-MIA-PTY-MIA-CLT-RDU-DCA-PIT-JFK-PHX-YVR | A/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | craigthemif | overnights in ATL, PTY, RDU and PIT | AA
24APR | £0.53/TP | £629 | 1180 | LAX-PHX-JFK-DCA-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY return | A/A/A/Y/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | aa.com | timezonehopper | Requires 3 overnights | AA
22MAR | £0.62/TP | £287.00 | 460 | HNL-LAX-PHL-NAS | A/A/I | aa.com | Tafflyer | many dates available up to June 2016
11APR | £0.76/TP | £281.00 | 370 | LAX-SAN-PHX-PHL-NAS | A/A/A/I | Orbitz | Far Siren
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
05FEB | £0.98/TP | £492 | 500 | SEA-CLT-SJU-MIA-SEA | A/I/I/A | aa.com | OWBA | Almost identical price for routing through JFK
30JAN | £1.02/TP | £509 | 500 | JFK-PHX-SJD-PHX-JFK | P/I/I/P | aa.com | OverTheHorizon | Decent flight & connection times, though overnight return from PHX is in a 737 recliner !!
13APR | £1.05/TP | £378 | 360 | LGA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-PHL-LGA | P/P/P/P/P/P | AA.com | sebanto2001 (thanks to henkybaby) | can be done on one day
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
with early morning departure from LGA and late come back
03FEB | £1.23/TP | £665 | 540 | SEA-PHX-PHL-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | PHX-PHL is a redeye
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
13MAR | £1.28/TP | £719 | 560 | SEA-MIA-BZE-MIA-CLT-SEA | P/I/I/P/P | aa.com | OWBA
06FEB | £1.30/TP | £1351 | 1040 | HNL-PHX-SEA-CLT-SJU-CLT-SEA-PHX-HNL | A/P/A/I/I/A/P/A | aa.com | OWBA
02-NOV|£1.34/TP|£855|660|IAD-CLT-JFK-TUC-PHX-PHL-DCA|all P|aa.com|headinclouds|PHX-PHL can be lieflat 332 or 757 angle seats; pre Brexit £1.12/TP
23JAN | £1.43/TP | £343 | 240 | PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-RDU | P/P/P/P | aa.com | JDBelfast
18FEB | £1.48/TP | £356 | 240 | SEA-PHX-LAX-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | Easy one-day run
27MAR | £1.50/TP | £900 | 600 | LGA-CLT-LAX-SFO-CLT-LGA | P/P/P/P/P | aa.com | omarr135
26 APR | £1.57/TP | £786 | 500 | YVR-PHX-JFK-PHX-YVR | D/A/A/D | aa.com | theultimateflyer
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
14JUL | £0.55/TP | £200 | 360 | BKK-KUL-PEK-KUL-BKK | Z |
10AUG | £0.99/TP | £79 | 80 | KUL-PEN-KUL | Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Fitch | Various date in Oct, most trips require 3+ nights but can nest PEN-KUL-PEN
24MAY | £1.18/TP | £425 | 360 | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | neo | can be finish within 24 hours / can be BKK instead of SIN but long layover | MH
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JUL | £1.35/TP | £216 | 160 | SIN-KUL-KCH r/t| Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com
24SEP | £1.09/TP | £437 | 400 | CMB-DOH-AUH-DOH-CMB | R/A/A/R | qatarairways.com | MeltingAlf | QR | AUH can be substituted with DXB and DWC for £3 more - be careful about being given Y instead of F on DOH-UAE leg - both price the same - MCT can be substituted for about £40 less and sub £1/TP
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. the guide to using ITA matrix in post #2 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
Warnings:
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What does "fare component" mean when they say "no stopovers on the fare component"? Is that the TATL flight? Or something else?
Also, my search is now showing "Iberia (IB) ILN8S4C1" on the fare rules & restrictions page rather than your ILN4S4Z1. Not sure there's a big difference here, or if its the same rules and restrictions just under Iberia rather than BA?
Also, my search is now showing "Iberia (IB) ILN8S4C1" on the fare rules & restrictions page rather than your ILN4S4Z1. Not sure there's a big difference here, or if its the same rules and restrictions just under Iberia rather than BA?
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exDUB ILN8S4C1 Advanced Purchase Fare
This is a 28 day advanced purchase exDUB fares. It is obviously not as cheap as one of the sale fares, but it is still a very good price.
The fare does cover travel dates for mid and late 2017. However, if you are looking for mid and late 2017 you need to bear in mind that AA flights are only released at 330 days whilst BA flights are released at 355 days. Therefore at the moment AA flights are only for sale up to mid-May and not available for any of the travel dates for June onwards. If you try and price anything which would have to include AA flights for June 2017 it will simply say no flights on itamatrix. Obviously there is no issue pricing a BA metal only itinerary such as DUB-LHR-JFK for June 2017 and you can do this online at BA.com.
As this is an advanced purchase fare there is no end date or ‘ticket by’ date.
Example prices for Easter 2017, all price with a LHR connection. Slightly lower prices may be found by taking the direct AA DUB-US flights:
JFK - €1,533 (~£1,175)
MIA - €1,596 (~£1,224)
ORD - €1,720 (~£1,319)
LAS - €1,746 (~£1,338)
LAX - €1,849 (~£1,417)
HNL - €1,804 (~£1,383) (priced with LHR, JFK, and PHX connections)
There is a BA DUB-LCY service which started in October 2014 and there is an early morning arrival in to LCY you can do a same day connection from DUB to LCY connecting on to BA1 departing at 0945. Any booking made on BA1-4 will only now earn 140 TPs.
There is also a AY DUB-HEL service starting in March 2015 which you may be able to add in, so DUB-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK- etc. DUB-HEL gets 40 TPs and the 80 TP rate would only apply to HEL-LHR as shorthaul+ is only exUK. Adding HEL may increase the price by £80-100 due to mileage restrictions.
Another alternative is DUB-MAD-LHR or DUB-LHR-MAD before doing the TATL. As there are more and more EI flights with BA codeshares now you could also do routings like DUB-AMS-LHR which would get you 60 TPs compared to DUB-LHR which would get you 40 TPs. Bear ni mind there is no business cabin on EI shorthaul. DUB-MAN-LHR would also be possible, but this would get you 20+20 TPs so no more than DUB-LHR.
This allows positioning for your inbound TATL prior to the Sunday. You can therefore set off from HNL on Friday night arriving in PHX on Saturday morning, do PHX-JFK during Saturday, have a night in NYC on Saturday night and then do your TATL on Sunday.
Stopovers can be done in Europe. Bear mind the cost of doing a stopover in London on the way out is a lot more expensive since APD is £142, so the total additional cost of adding a stopover in London would be €75 + £142 + any other airport fees. As the fee for stopovers in the US has been changed to €600 I imagine no one would now be interested in doing a stopover there.
If you want to stopover in London on the way back it is a lot cheaper since the APD would only be £26 for the LHR-DUB leg. Therefore at fairly minimal additional cost you can stopover in London on the return to go home, and then do the last leg some weeks or months later at your convenience.
So 2 in Europe and 2 in the US each way.
An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights would be counted as a transfer, anything beyond that would be a stopover.
To HNL the optimal routing is something like DUB-HEL-LHR-XXX-LAX/PHX-HNL and return which gets you 1360 TPs. If you leave HEL out coming back then reduce by 80 TPs, and if you leave HEL out both out and back reduce to 1200 TPs. XXX can be any east coast city provided that you don't do JFK-LAX where you can only get 140 TPs, and XXX-LAX/PHX is on a two class > 2,000 mile flight.
If you look at post 1 of this thread or this post there is a list of >2,000 mile flights.
AA vs BA flight numbers for TPs & avios:
- For two class domestic flights in the US you need to book under the AA flight number to get the domestic first TP (210/60). Booking under the BA codeshare will only get you business TPs (140/40) even though you will be in the same seats.
- For three class transcons (A321T) on the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO routes it doesn't matter since you book in to the middle business cabin anyway, not the first cabin.
- For international flights it doesn't matter, it is 140/40 TPs whatever flight number you book under so AA or oneworld codeshare.
- Avios will always be more under a BA flight number, but not much. Avios under an AA flight is 125% miles flown, and under a BA codeshare is 150% of miles flown. Tier avios bonuses are the same under AA or BA.
Note that the travel dates refer to the first transatlantic sector which means your TATL, and it also means you can do DUB-LHR on the 24 June and then the LHR-JFK on 25 June.
Cancellation and change conditions:
This is a 28 day advanced purchase exDUB fares. It is obviously not as cheap as one of the sale fares, but it is still a very good price.
The fare does cover travel dates for mid and late 2017. However, if you are looking for mid and late 2017 you need to bear in mind that AA flights are only released at 330 days whilst BA flights are released at 355 days. Therefore at the moment AA flights are only for sale up to mid-May and not available for any of the travel dates for June onwards. If you try and price anything which would have to include AA flights for June 2017 it will simply say no flights on itamatrix. Obviously there is no issue pricing a BA metal only itinerary such as DUB-LHR-JFK for June 2017 and you can do this online at BA.com.
As this is an advanced purchase fare there is no end date or ‘ticket by’ date.
Example prices for Easter 2017, all price with a LHR connection. Slightly lower prices may be found by taking the direct AA DUB-US flights:
JFK - €1,533 (~£1,175)
MIA - €1,596 (~£1,224)
ORD - €1,720 (~£1,319)
LAS - €1,746 (~£1,338)
LAX - €1,849 (~£1,417)
HNL - €1,804 (~£1,383) (priced with LHR, JFK, and PHX connections)
There is a BA DUB-LCY service which started in October 2014 and there is an early morning arrival in to LCY you can do a same day connection from DUB to LCY connecting on to BA1 departing at 0945. Any booking made on BA1-4 will only now earn 140 TPs.
There is also a AY DUB-HEL service starting in March 2015 which you may be able to add in, so DUB-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK- etc. DUB-HEL gets 40 TPs and the 80 TP rate would only apply to HEL-LHR as shorthaul+ is only exUK. Adding HEL may increase the price by £80-100 due to mileage restrictions.
Another alternative is DUB-MAD-LHR or DUB-LHR-MAD before doing the TATL. As there are more and more EI flights with BA codeshares now you could also do routings like DUB-AMS-LHR which would get you 60 TPs compared to DUB-LHR which would get you 40 TPs. Bear ni mind there is no business cabin on EI shorthaul. DUB-MAN-LHR would also be possible, but this would get you 20+20 TPs so no more than DUB-LHR.
Travel from inbound transatlantic sector must commence no earlier than the first Sunday after departure of the outbound transatlantic sector.
Travel from last stopover must commence no later than midnight 12 months after departure from fare origin.
If you want to stopover in London on the way back it is a lot cheaper since the APD would only be £26 for the LHR-DUB leg. Therefore at fairly minimal additional cost you can stopover in London on the return to go home, and then do the last leg some weeks or months later at your convenience.
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ORIGINATING EUROPE - UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN EUROPE AT EUR 75.00 EACH. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. AND - UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN THE UNITED STATES/CANADA/MEXICO AT EUR 600.00 EACH. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
2 transfers permitted in each direction free.
An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights would be counted as a transfer, anything beyond that would be a stopover.
To HNL the optimal routing is something like DUB-HEL-LHR-XXX-LAX/PHX-HNL and return which gets you 1360 TPs. If you leave HEL out coming back then reduce by 80 TPs, and if you leave HEL out both out and back reduce to 1200 TPs. XXX can be any east coast city provided that you don't do JFK-LAX where you can only get 140 TPs, and XXX-LAX/PHX is on a two class > 2,000 mile flight.
If you look at post 1 of this thread or this post there is a list of >2,000 mile flights.
AA vs BA flight numbers for TPs & avios:
- For two class domestic flights in the US you need to book under the AA flight number to get the domestic first TP (210/60). Booking under the BA codeshare will only get you business TPs (140/40) even though you will be in the same seats.
- For three class transcons (A321T) on the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO routes it doesn't matter since you book in to the middle business cabin anyway, not the first cabin.
- For international flights it doesn't matter, it is 140/40 TPs whatever flight number you book under so AA or oneworld codeshare.
- Avios will always be more under a BA flight number, but not much. Avios under an AA flight is 125% miles flown, and under a BA codeshare is 150% of miles flown. Tier avios bonuses are the same under AA or BA.
Permitted
19 March through 12 April or
25 June through 22 August or
23 November through 30 November or
18 December through 04 January
on the outbound transatlantic sector.
19 March through 12 April or
25 June through 22 August or
23 November through 30 November or
18 December through 04 January
on the outbound transatlantic sector.
Reservations for all sectors are required at least 28 days before departure.
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CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE. ---------------------------------------------- WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS TRAVELLING COMPANIONS. ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH REFUNDABLE FARES 1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED. 2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. 3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS. ---------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. ---------------------------------------------- REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY. ---------------------------------------------- ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE. ---------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON. ---------------------------------------------- -------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------ FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR REFUND. FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN ORIGINAL. PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD. REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS. ---------------------------------------------- CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR ALL PASSENGER TYPES. INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE. -------------------------------------------------- A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY. -------------------------------------------------- REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED. OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR REFUND IF APPLICABLE. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. -------------------------------------------------- --- REPRICING CONDITIONS --- A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED. B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED - WHICHEVER IS LOWER. C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED- WHICHEVER IS LOWER. D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. -------------------------------------------------- 1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED. 2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE. -------------------------------------------------- ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE. -------------------------------------------------- NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED. -------------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
#2869
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I want to earn TPs shortly after my new BA year starts on Jan 8th. Since the earlier fare ends Jan 4th, I was looking for deals to OGG after and found these starting in mid-March 2017.
I'm also now toying with the idea of taking OGG departure on or before Jan 4th, fitting in a exHNL RT run after Jan 8, then coming back from OGG also after Jan 8. If I do things right, I figure enough TPs to renew BA Gold earned after Jan 8, plus enough Avios to make an RT reward trip to somewhere nice in combination with a 2-4-1 (and maybe GUF2)
I'm also now toying with the idea of taking OGG departure on or before Jan 4th, fitting in a exHNL RT run after Jan 8, then coming back from OGG also after Jan 8. If I do things right, I figure enough TPs to renew BA Gold earned after Jan 8, plus enough Avios to make an RT reward trip to somewhere nice in combination with a 2-4-1 (and maybe GUF2)
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I want to earn TPs shortly after my new BA year starts on Jan 8th. Since the earlier fare ends Jan 4th, I was looking for deals to OGG after and found these starting in mid-March 2017.
I'm also now toying with the idea of taking OGG departure on or before Jan 4th, fitting in a exHNL RT run after Jan 8, then coming back from OGG also after Jan 8. If I do things right, I figure enough TPs to renew BA Gold earned after Jan 8, plus enough Avios to make an RT reward trip to somewhere nice in combination with a 2-4-1 (and maybe GUF2)
I'm also now toying with the idea of taking OGG departure on or before Jan 4th, fitting in a exHNL RT run after Jan 8, then coming back from OGG also after Jan 8. If I do things right, I figure enough TPs to renew BA Gold earned after Jan 8, plus enough Avios to make an RT reward trip to somewhere nice in combination with a 2-4-1 (and maybe GUF2)
The more expensive advanced purchase fare ILN8S4C1 does cover dates over Easter next year, hence why you are seeing it if you search for March 2017.
#2871
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: BA Gold, IHG
Posts: 88
Thanks Karfa. Those facts were obvious to me given the fare rules already posted (by you I might add!) but maybe you're reiterating them for the benefit of others. :-)
I only answered the question about what I was trying to do because you asked it, and who knows, you might have had other suggestions.
If anyone cares, I've made progress on playing with permutations and now expect to book DUB-LHR-CLT-LAX-HNL / HNL-OGG-HNL / HNL-LAX-MIA-NAS-MIA-LAX-HNL / HNL-LAX-CLT-LHR-DUB with vacation stays in OGG and NAS and an itinerary that gets me 1500 TPs after Jan 8th. The first 600 TP earned on the outbound from DUB do nothing for me, except lifetime totals I guess.
I show 1520 TPs earned after Jan 8th at a total cost of £2103.52pp, so £1.38 per TP. But hell, that's alot of flying!
For those who can count all TPs for their BA year, that's just £0.99 per TP.
I only answered the question about what I was trying to do because you asked it, and who knows, you might have had other suggestions.
If anyone cares, I've made progress on playing with permutations and now expect to book DUB-LHR-CLT-LAX-HNL / HNL-OGG-HNL / HNL-LAX-MIA-NAS-MIA-LAX-HNL / HNL-LAX-CLT-LHR-DUB with vacation stays in OGG and NAS and an itinerary that gets me 1500 TPs after Jan 8th. The first 600 TP earned on the outbound from DUB do nothing for me, except lifetime totals I guess.
I show 1520 TPs earned after Jan 8th at a total cost of £2103.52pp, so £1.38 per TP. But hell, that's alot of flying!
For those who can count all TPs for their BA year, that's just £0.99 per TP.
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I was going to say that was a high price dmp1991 but I realised you have a separate run to NAS in there. Have a quick look at PTY just in case that is cheaper, that has certainly been the go to cheap destination from MIA over the last year or two.
#2873
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Thanks Karfa. Those facts were obvious to me given the fare rules already posted (by you I might add!) but maybe you're reiterating them for the benefit of others. :-)
I only answered the question about what I was trying to do because you asked it, and who knows, you might have had other suggestions.
If anyone cares, I've made progress on playing with permutations and now expect to book DUB-LHR-CLT-LAX-HNL / HNL-OGG-HNL / HNL-LAX-MIA-NAS-MIA-LAX-HNL / HNL-LAX-CLT-LHR-DUB with vacation stays in OGG and NAS and an itinerary that gets me 1500 TPs after Jan 8th. The first 600 TP earned on the outbound from DUB do nothing for me, except lifetime totals I guess.
I show 1520 TPs earned after Jan 8th at a total cost of £2103.52pp, so £1.38 per TP. But hell, that's alot of flying!
For those who can count all TPs for their BA year, that's just £0.99 per TP.
I only answered the question about what I was trying to do because you asked it, and who knows, you might have had other suggestions.
If anyone cares, I've made progress on playing with permutations and now expect to book DUB-LHR-CLT-LAX-HNL / HNL-OGG-HNL / HNL-LAX-MIA-NAS-MIA-LAX-HNL / HNL-LAX-CLT-LHR-DUB with vacation stays in OGG and NAS and an itinerary that gets me 1500 TPs after Jan 8th. The first 600 TP earned on the outbound from DUB do nothing for me, except lifetime totals I guess.
I show 1520 TPs earned after Jan 8th at a total cost of £2103.52pp, so £1.38 per TP. But hell, that's alot of flying!
For those who can count all TPs for their BA year, that's just £0.99 per TP.
Charlie
#2874
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Posts: 88
I actually tried PTY and BAQ first based on seeing them mentioned repeatedly as targets for previous TP runs. But then I got wise and rapid-fired on possible destinations with ITA Matrix using AA's route map to identify possible destinations all over Central and South America. I don't remember if PTY was cheaper to be honest, but BAQ was definitely cheaper. However, travel to BAQ and PTY couldn't be completed on the same calendar day, so I would have spent more days traveling, plus incurred more hotel costs, than my plan to NAS where I get more relaxation/vacation days in.
#2875
Join Date: Feb 2015
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From there, in my particular case, I looked for this run to be after Jan 8th and tried to minimize the total # of days with flights in them. (But this was secondary to making sure I would get enough TPs to retain Gold.).
From there, it was just a matter of deciding when I needed to be back to work and then balancing per personal preference time spent in OGG vs NAS.
ITA's ability to "matrix" search is definitely a big help here. As is the ability to view it's results by time bars. Don't forget to mouse-over the timebars if type of plane is important to you. And also to double-check the class of the booking.
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I actually tried PTY and BAQ first based on seeing them mentioned repeatedly as targets for previous TP runs. But then I got wise and rapid-fired on possible destinations with ITA Matrix using AA's route map to identify possible destinations all over Central and South America. I don't remember if PTY was cheaper to be honest, but BAQ was definitely cheaper. However, travel to BAQ and PTY couldn't be completed on the same calendar day, so I would have spent more days traveling, plus incurred more hotel costs, than my plan to NAS where I get more relaxation/vacation days in.
#2877
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I've been playing with a schedule for a DUB-LAS trip via LHR and JFK getting me around 780TPs for c.£1,200. Now, the issue is that when I've finished constructing the flights and click buy on AA, our friends across the pond think I'm in Eire and quote in Euros.
Being resourceful I entered the itinerary directly on AA but this time as a Brit and couldn't get the same routing (kept adding stopovers which ruin the 210TP legs).
My question is...is there a way to import from Google starting in Dub but with the ability to pay in GBP?
Don't want to risk losing the flights or stuffing it up so my default is to buy them and take the hit on FX rates on the card, but it would be lovely if I could do it properly from the outset.
Anyone with more experience like to help a complex routing virgin?
Ta
Being resourceful I entered the itinerary directly on AA but this time as a Brit and couldn't get the same routing (kept adding stopovers which ruin the 210TP legs).
My question is...is there a way to import from Google starting in Dub but with the ability to pay in GBP?
Don't want to risk losing the flights or stuffing it up so my default is to buy them and take the hit on FX rates on the card, but it would be lovely if I could do it properly from the outset.
Anyone with more experience like to help a complex routing virgin?
Ta
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Did you use the multi-city search for Schedule, with "Number of Stops: 1 or less" and "Show flight results: 50 flights"?
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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In the interest of getting it right I'll try the GBP route once more but I still feel like I'm saving a heck of a lot compared to the straight BA booking so a few extra quid in currency isn't going to break my wallet right now.
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Ta, yes I did but for some reason the non-stop JFK to LAS wouldn't come up for both outbound and return it just proposed PHX or CLT as the options. Trawled through them all and then retried doing the booking from scratch. Have the correct routing 'reserved' and I'm about to pop out for my weekly shoot so I'll give it a little time and look to complete it when I get back.
In the interest of getting it right I'll try the GBP route once more but I still feel like I'm saving a heck of a lot compared to the straight BA booking so a few extra quid in currency isn't going to break my wallet right now.
In the interest of getting it right I'll try the GBP route once more but I still feel like I'm saving a heck of a lot compared to the straight BA booking so a few extra quid in currency isn't going to break my wallet right now.