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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2015 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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Sale Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN4S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - 1,362, LAS - 1,530, LAX - 1,622, HNL - 1,593, no stopovers, needs to be booked by 30 June, see linked post for details

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  • from DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - 1,533, MIA - 1,596, LAS - 1,746, LAX - 1,849, HNL - 1,804, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for 75, see linked post for details

See here in post # 445 for an archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under 3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note the following:
  • Current availability is not guaranteed.
  • All prices include taxes.

Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:

Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

From Europe

17DEC | 0.75/TP | 909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
01NOV | 0.99/TP | 1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
23SEP | 1.30/TP | 726 | 560 | AMS-LHR-JFK-CLT-SJU//SJU-MIA-JFK-LHR-CDG | D/I/A/I/I/A/I/D | ITA Matrix | Blackberryaddict
14AUG | 1.31/TP | 470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
02NOV | 1.33/TP | 583 | 440 | LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR | IIIIIIIIII | Google Flights | armouredant | 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
29MAR | 1.54/TP | 1282 | 830 | AMS-LHR-JFK-MIA(stop)EZE(stop)DFW-JFK(stop)-LHR-DUB | RIAIIAAR | AA.com (Stopovers in MIA and JFK - 3 days) | docgasman
08FEB | 1.57/TP | 346 | 260 | JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK | I/I/I/I | BA.com ramops
19 APR | 1.64/TP | 1708 | 1040 | DUB-LHR-MIA-LAX-SFO-MIA-LHR-DUB | IAAAAAAI | thepowerbook | MIA-LAX & LAX-MIA in F on the 77W TR | AA
17AUG | 1.67/TP | 1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
06 FEB | 1.78/TP | 1590 | 900 | BRU-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIAAAAII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
26JUL | 1.81/TP | 72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
06 FEB | 1.85/TP | 1818 | 980 | BRU-MAD-LHR-JFK-PHX-SAN rtn. | IIIAAAAIII | aa.com | OttoMH | BA AA (IB Sale)
1JAN | 1.85/TP | 444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV | 1.89/TP | 377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | 1.89/TP | 1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | 1.91/TP | 1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for 20 less but 40TP less
24NOV | 1.91/TP | 765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
18MAR | 1.95/TP | 1481 | 760 | TXL-LHR-KUL-HKG-CGK-HKG-SIN-LHR-TXL | J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J | BA | Teledude
07AUG | 2.00/TP | 1280 | 640 |ZRH-JFK-MIA-GRU-JFK-LHR//LCY-ZRH | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | frb98mf | AA | AA/BA
11AUG| 2.10/TP | 420 | 200 | AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com | MrMutton
07DEC | 2.24/TP | 942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to 865 (2.06/TP)
19JUN | 2.25/TP | 1,124 | 500 | DUB-LCY-LHR-JFK-MIA-BOS-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/I/I (ILN4S4Z1) | BA Phone | Murray | BA AA
22JAN | 2.29/TP | 640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
01FEB | 2.38/TP | 570 | 240 | DUB-LHR-MAD//MAD-FRA-MAD//MAD-LHR-DUB | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | BA / LAN | MrMutton
13NOV | 2.56/TP | 410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
10OCT | 2.84/TP | 1187 | 420 | LIN-LHR-CTU-HKG//HKG-LHR//LGW-MAD-AGP | J/I/I/I/I/I | BA | megaloman | combined advance sale to CTU from Italy (outbound) and Spain (inbound)
20 Oct | 2.73/TP | 1750 | 640 | LHR-AMM-BKK-HKG//HKG-BKK-AMM-LHR | D-RJ/D-RJ/D-CX//D-CX/D-RJ/D-RJ | RJ | Frequentflyer99 | Only bookable by RJ over the tel as BKK/HKG/BKK legs on CX can't be booked online or by TA's. RJ res supervisor managed it with great difficulty !

From North, Central and South America
25APR | 0.52/TP | 531| 1020 | SFO-CLT-ATL-DCA-MIA-PTY-MIA-CLT-RDU-DCA-PIT-JFK-PHX-YVR | A/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | craigthemif | overnights in ATL, PTY, RDU and PIT | AA
24APR | 0.53/TP | 629 | 1180 | LAX-PHX-JFK-DCA-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY return | A/A/A/Y/A/A/A/I/I/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | aa.com | timezonehopper | Requires 3 overnights | AA
22MAR | 0.62/TP | 287.00 | 460 | HNL-LAX-PHL-NAS | A/A/I | aa.com | Tafflyer | many dates available up to June 2016
11APR | 0.76/TP | 281.00 | 370 | LAX-SAN-PHX-PHL-NAS | A/A/A/I | Orbitz | Far Siren
08NOV | 0.84/TP | 772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
05FEB | 0.98/TP | 492 | 500 | SEA-CLT-SJU-MIA-SEA | A/I/I/A | aa.com | OWBA | Almost identical price for routing through JFK
30JAN | 1.02/TP | 509 | 500 | JFK-PHX-SJD-PHX-JFK | P/I/I/P | aa.com | OverTheHorizon | Decent flight & connection times, though overnight return from PHX is in a 737 recliner !!
13APR | 1.05/TP | 378 | 360 | LGA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-PHL-LGA | P/P/P/P/P/P | AA.com | sebanto2001 (thanks to henkybaby) | can be done on one day
13NOV | 1.06/TP | 705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
with early morning departure from LGA and late come back
03FEB | 1.23/TP | 665 | 540 | SEA-PHX-PHL-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | PHX-PHL is a redeye
07JAN|1.24/TP | 668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
02NOV | 1.27/TP | 1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
13MAR | 1.28/TP | 719 | 560 | SEA-MIA-BZE-MIA-CLT-SEA | P/I/I/P/P | aa.com | OWBA
06FEB | 1.30/TP | 1351 | 1040 | HNL-PHX-SEA-CLT-SJU-CLT-SEA-PHX-HNL | A/P/A/I/I/A/P/A | aa.com | OWBA
02-NOV|1.34/TP|855|660|IAD-CLT-JFK-TUC-PHX-PHL-DCA|all P|aa.com|headinclouds|PHX-PHL can be lieflat 332 or 757 angle seats; pre Brexit 1.12/TP
23JAN | 1.43/TP | 343 | 240 | PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-RDU | P/P/P/P | aa.com | JDBelfast
18FEB | 1.48/TP | 356 | 240 | SEA-PHX-LAX-PHX-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | OWBA | Easy one-day run
27MAR | 1.50/TP | 900 | 600 | LGA-CLT-LAX-SFO-CLT-LGA | P/P/P/P/P | aa.com | omarr135
26 APR | 1.57/TP | 786 | 500 | YVR-PHX-JFK-PHX-YVR | D/A/A/D | aa.com | theultimateflyer
06NOV | 1.67/TP | 66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
14JUL | 0.55/TP | 200 | 360 | BKK-KUL-PEK-KUL-BKK | Z |
10AUG | 0.99/TP | 79 | 80 | KUL-PEN-KUL | Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Fitch | Various date in Oct, most trips require 3+ nights but can nest PEN-KUL-PEN
24MAY | 1.18/TP | 425 | 360 | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | neo | can be finish within 24 hours / can be BKK instead of SIN but long layover | MH
11JAN | 1.26/TP | 707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | 1.68/TP | 940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
06JAN | 1.86/TP | 856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JUL | 1.35/TP | 216 | 160 | SIN-KUL-KCH r/t| Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com
24SEP | 1.09/TP | 437 | 400 | CMB-DOH-AUH-DOH-CMB | R/A/A/R | qatarairways.com | MeltingAlf | QR | AUH can be substituted with DXB and DWC for 3 more - be careful about being given Y instead of F on DOH-UAE leg - both price the same - MCT can be substituted for about 40 less and sub 1/TP

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?

Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. the guide to using ITA matrix in post #2 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under 300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under 500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for 520

Warnings:
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Old Jun 25, 16, 4:45 am
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Originally Posted by dsf View Post
I booked BIO-LHR-MAD-SJO-MIA-MAD-SJO direct on ba.com. Stopover in LHR from August to Feb 770pp
You finish in SJO?
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Old Jun 25, 16, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
You finish in SJO?
oops! I finish in MAD. curse these busy fingers mine.
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Old Jun 25, 16, 6:31 am
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I think the fares underlying the Spain-Costa Rica/Mexico/Panama deal have just been removed from the fare tariff.
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Old Jun 25, 16, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
I think the fares underlying the Spain-Costa Rica/Mexico/Panama deal have just been removed from the fare tariff.
They are still very much bookable on ba.com.
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Old Jun 25, 16, 6:48 am
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The pertinent parts of the fare rules should anyone need them. I have looked at BCN but as noted other ED start points also available.

British Airways (BA) RNNN7O BCN to SJO

Code:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB.
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Doesn't seem to be a minimum stay.

Code:
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
      DIRECTION.
  AND - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
            EACH DIRECTION AT EUR 75.00/USD 105.00 EACH.
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01JUL 16 AND ON/BEFORE 31AUG 16.
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE AND TICKETS ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31JUL 16.
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE USD 250.00/EUR 200.00.
         NOTE -
          IN CASE OF NO SHOW A PENALTY FEE OF 500 USD/400
          EUR IS APPLIED
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
          FOR ADULT AND CHILD. INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
          CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY
          ----------------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGER-S IN
          MEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER / 1ST DEGREE RELATIONS ONLY/
          OR FOR PASSENGER-S HOSPITAL ADMISSION.
          ----------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES T
          HE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED PRIC
          ING UNIT APPLIES.
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
          NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          1-THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT
           IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY.
          2-THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPO
          NENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          CARRIER IMPOUSE CHARGE IS REFUNDABLE
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE USD 250.00/EUR 200.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
          FOR ADULT AND CHILD
          INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY
          CHILD DISCOUNT DO NOT APPLY
          IN CASE OF NO SHOW- A PENALTY FEE OF 375 USD/300
          EUR
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING/OR DATE/OR FLIGHT MODIFICATI
          ON.
          CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF ORIG
          INAL TICKET.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          ---------------------------------
          WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
          ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
          CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL
          APPLY.
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
           THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENT
          S WILL APPLY.
          ---------------------------------
          IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE ITIN
          ERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
          WILL BE COLLECTED -AND-THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPL
          IED.
          ---------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER AMOUNT A
           REFUND OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT LESS THE APPLICABLE
           PENALTY WILL BE MADE
          ---------------------------------
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
           THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED OR PREVIOUS TO THE TIC
          KETED FLIGHT DEPARTURE
          ---------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGER-S
          INMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER/1ST DEGREE RELATIONS
          ONLY/OR FOR PASSENGER-S HOSPITAL ADMISSION.
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          ---------------------------------
          WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPON
          ENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITIN
          ERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN E
          FFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR CURRENT FA
          RES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET REISSUE WHICHE
          VER IS LOWER.
          ANY TIME
          DOWNGRADING IS NOT PERMITTED
          THE NEW TOTAL FARE MAY ONLY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THA
          N PREVIOUS. ANY CHANGE WITHIN THE SAME TYPE OF FAR
          E INVOLVING SEASONALITY OR DAY/TIME IS NOT CONSIDE
          RED DOWNGRADE.
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Thanks KARFA!
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
The pertinent parts of the fare rules should anyone need them. I have looked at BCN but as noted other ED start points also available.

British Airways (BA) RNNN7O BCN to SJO

Code:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB.




Doesn't seem to be a minimum stay.

Code:
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
      DIRECTION.
  AND - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
            EACH DIRECTION AT EUR 75.00/USD 105.00 EACH.




Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE USD 250.00/EUR 200.00.
         NOTE -
          IN CASE OF NO SHOW A PENALTY FEE OF 500 USD/400
          EUR IS APPLIED
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
          FOR ADULT AND CHILD. INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
          CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY
          ----------------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGER-S IN
          MEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER / 1ST DEGREE RELATIONS ONLY/
          OR FOR PASSENGER-S HOSPITAL ADMISSION.
          ----------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES T
          HE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED PRIC
          ING UNIT APPLIES.
          WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
          NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          1-THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT
           IS REFUNDED LESS APPLICABLE PENALTY.
          2-THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPO
          NENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          CARRIER IMPOUSE CHARGE IS REFUNDABLE
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE USD 250.00/EUR 200.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
          FOR ADULT AND CHILD
          INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY
          CHILD DISCOUNT DO NOT APPLY
          IN CASE OF NO SHOW- A PENALTY FEE OF 375 USD/300
          EUR
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING/OR DATE/OR FLIGHT MODIFICATI
          ON.
          CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF ORIG
          INAL TICKET.
          THE ORIGINAL NON-REUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
          NON-REFUNDABLE.
          ---------------------------------
          WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
          ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
          CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL
          APPLY.
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
           THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENT
          S WILL APPLY.
          ---------------------------------
          IN CASE OF UPGRADE TO A HIGHER FARE OR IF THE ITIN
          ERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE
          WILL BE COLLECTED -AND-THE CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPL
          IED.
          ---------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER AMOUNT A
           REFUND OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT LESS THE APPLICABLE
           PENALTY WILL BE MADE
          ---------------------------------
          REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
           THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED OR PREVIOUS TO THE TIC
          KETED FLIGHT DEPARTURE
          ---------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGER-S
          INMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER/1ST DEGREE RELATIONS
          ONLY/OR FOR PASSENGER-S HOSPITAL ADMISSION.
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          ---------------------------------
          WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPON
          ENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITIN
          ERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN E
          FFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR CURRENT FA
          RES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET REISSUE WHICHE
          VER IS LOWER.
          ANY TIME
          DOWNGRADING IS NOT PERMITTED
          THE NEW TOTAL FARE MAY ONLY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THA
          N PREVIOUS. ANY CHANGE WITHIN THE SAME TYPE OF FAR
          E INVOLVING SEASONALITY OR DAY/TIME IS NOT CONSIDE
          RED DOWNGRADE.
          --------------------------------

Fare Gone...........
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Old Jun 26, 16, 5:26 am
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exDUB ILN4S4Z1 Sale Fare

Example prices for August 2016, all price with a LHR connection. Slightly lower prices may be found by taking the direct AA DUB-US flights:

JFK - 1,362 (~1,044)
MIA - 1,415 (~1,085)
ORD - 1,451 (~1,112)
LAS - 1,530 (~1,173)
LAX - 1,622 (~1,255)
HNL - 1,593 (~1,221) via LHR-JFK-PHX

Bear in mind that there is a BA DUB-LCY service which started in October 2014 and there is an early morning arrival in to LCY you can do a same day connection from DUB arriving at 0820 and connecting on to BA1 departing at 0945. Any booking made on BA1-4 will only now earn 140 TPs.

There is also a AY DUB-HEL service starting in March 2015 which you may be able to add in, so DUB-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK- etc. DUB-HEL gets 40 TPs and the 80 TP rate would only apply to HEL-LHR as shorthaul+ is only exUK. Adding HEL may increase the price by 80-100 due to mileage restrictions.

Another alternative is DUB-MAD-LHR or DUB-LHR-MAD before doing the TATL. As there are more and more EI flights with BA codeshares now you could also do routings like DUB-AMS-LHR which would get you 60 TPs compared to DUB-LHR which would get you 40 TPs. There is no business cabin on EI shorthaul. DUB-MAN-LHR would also be possible, but this would get you 20+20 TPs so no more than DUB-LHR.

Travel from inbound transatlantic sector must commence no earlier than the first Sunday after departure of the outbound transatlantic sector.
This allows positioning for your inbound TATL prior to the Sunday. You can therefore set off from HNL on Friday night arriving in PHX on Saturday morning, do PHX-JFK during Saturday, have a night in NYC on Saturday night and then do your TATL on Sunday.

Travel from last stopover must commence no later than midnight 12 months after departure from fare origin.
Valid for travel commencing on/before 31 March 17
Stopovers not permitted on the fare component
An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights is allowed though.

2 transfers allowed per region in each direction, so 2 in Europe and 2 in the US each way.
To HNL the optimal routing is something like DUB-HEL-LHR-XXX-LAX/PHX-HNL and return which gets you 1360 TPs. If you leave HEL out coming back then reduce by 80 TPs, and if you leave HEL out both out and back reduce to 1200 TPs. XXX can be any east coast city provided that you don't do JFK-LAX where you can only get 140 TPs, and XXX-LAX/PHX is on a two class > 2,000 mile flight. If you look at post 1 of this thread or this post there is a list of >2,000 mile flights.

AA vs BA flight numbers for TPs & avios:
- For two class domestic flights in the US you need to book under the AA flight number to get the domestic first TP (210/60). Booking under the BA codeshare will only get you business TPs (140/40) even though you will be in the same seats.
- For three class transcons (A321T) on the JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO routes it doesn't matter since you book in to the middle business cabin anyway, not the first cabin.
- For international flights it doesn't matter, it is 140/40 TPs whatever flight number you book under so AA or oneworld codeshare.
- Avios will always be more under a BA flight number, but not much. Avios under an AA flight is 125% miles flown, and under a BA codeshare is 150% of miles flown. Tier avios bonuses are the same under AA or BA.

Permitted
25 June through 22 August or
23 November through 30 November or
18 December through 04 January
on the outbound transatlantic sector.
Note that the travel dates refer to the first transatlantic sector which means your TATL, and it also means you can do DUB-LHR on the 22 November and then the LHR-JFK on 23 November.

Reservations For All Sectors Are Required At Least 14 Days Before Departure.
Tickets must be issued on/before 30 June 2016.
Cancellation and change conditions:

Code:
CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
         NOTE -
          FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
          TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
          REFUNDABLE FARES
          1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
          2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
          CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
          COMPONENTS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
          THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
          IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          ----------------------------------------------
          REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
          ----------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
          ----------------------------------------------
          -------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
          FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
          AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
          CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
          REFUND.
          FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
          ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
          THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          ORIGINAL.
          PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
          USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
          ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
          REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
          AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
          ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
          INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
          CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
          MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
          RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
          TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
          OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
          REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
           --- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
          A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
          FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
          TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
          AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
          CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
          FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
          BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
          THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
          BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
          COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
          APPLIED.
          2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
          TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
          MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
          BEING APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
          DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
          CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
          THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
          RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
          CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
          PERMITTED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.

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Old Jun 26, 16, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
exDUB ILN4S4Z1 Sale Fare
Travel from last stopover must commence no later than midnight 12 months after departure from fare origin
Are stopovers actually allowed on this fare? It would be ideal for me to collect the TPs in my new BA year, which starts Jan 8th. But I can't get it to price with DUB-LON on Jan 4, then continuing on (LON-CLT-LAX-OGG-LAX-CLT-LON-DUB) after my new BA year starts. Yeah, I might have to pay APD for this, but that would be worth it to me.

Perhaps the problem is just my poor skills at manipulating ITA Matrix's Multi-City search tool? I have DUB-LON as flight 1, then the rest of the out legs as Flights 2 thru 4, with a single return OGG to DUB with "LAX CLT LON" as my advanced routing codes because it won't let me add enough flights to list every leg separately. With this setup, ITA just reports "No flights found".

Note that I can get it to price on the "Round trip" tab as DUB to OGG with appropriate connection cities listed, but then I have to do all out legs before my new BA year. Or at least, I can't figure out how to force a stopover in LON with this view of things.

EDIT: Think I just figured out my problem. The trans-Atlantic outbound must be no later than Jan 4th. Not just the DUB-LON leg. So I need DUB-LON-CLT on or before Jan 4, and can do CLT-LAX-OGG-LAX-CLT-LON-DUB after Jan 8th. (I think.)

EDIT 2: Just realized I could look at the fare rules myself from pricing it up on the "Roundtrip Tab". Found the following:
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
ORIGINATING EUROPE -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN
EUROPE AT EUR 75.00 EACH.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
AND - UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN
THE UNITED STATES/CANADA/MEXICO AT EUR 600.00
EACH.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
. So EUR 600 to have a stopover in the US. Ouch!

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Old Jun 26, 16, 1:57 pm
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No stopovers on the fare. See my post. This is typical of exDUB sale fares.
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Old Jun 26, 16, 4:20 pm
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What does "fare component" mean when they say "no stopovers on the fare component"? Is that the TATL flight? Or something else?

Also, my search is now showing "Iberia (IB) ILN8S4C1" on the fare rules & restrictions page rather than your ILN4S4Z1. Not sure there's a big difference here, or if its the same rules and restrictions just under Iberia rather than BA?
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Old Jun 26, 16, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by dmp1991 View Post
What does "fare component" mean when they say "no stopovers on the fare component"? Is that the TATL flight? Or something else?

Also, my search is now showing "Iberia (IB) ILN8S4C1" on the fare rules & restrictions page rather than your ILN4S4Z1. Not sure there's a big difference here, or if its the same rules and restrictions just under Iberia rather than BA?
A return DUB-HNL is typically two fare components, one for the outbound and one for the inbound. These fares are combinable so you could get ILN4S4Z1 on the outbound and ILN8S4C1 for the inbound.
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Old Jun 26, 16, 4:44 pm
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Think this one comes and goes

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#se...8763;sc=b;eo=e

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Originally Posted by ExpatSomchai View Post

I cant get this link to work, Bad Request Error
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Old Jun 26, 16, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by cgtechuk View Post
I cant get this link to work, Bad Request Error
Try the new one
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