IJG2

Yes, you can do 1). I've done this in the past with my husband's vouchers. As I remember it, you'll have to pay the fees & charges with your wife's amex. I am set up as a nominated user on his account.

Markie

GGL Agent advised in call just now that A or Z upgrade classes are needed. These are a sub-set of A and Z commercially available.
I seem to have got away with upgrades to A outside of the upgrade classes in the past.

crazy8534

I am loathe to say this because I can’t recall ever having a bad experience with a true GGL agent but that sounds like nonsense. Happy to be corrected if these A ‘subsets’ genuinely exist…

firstlight

While im no expert on the intracacies of using jokers it sounds like a hang up and call again might be in order.

Markie

They are what AA uses for upgrades so they are real.

megaloman

In order to use joker (gold guest list space release voucher) flight has to have availability in A class (not Z), and no joker used in that particular cabin by someone else. So sometimes even if cabin shows F9 A9 it may not be possible to "joker" yourself into F, since someone else already has used joker there. Every time I booked a flight using joker, agent had to check if it was still possible to use space release voucher despite class availability.

Markie

My point was not a Joker issue, rather a Gold Upgrade being used on AA issue.

crazy8534

Sorry, I missed it was on AA.

Pilot37

I agree with other posters, that sounds nonsense, 'A' class is a revenue class and there is no subset that I have ever encountered! You mention AA on a later post, what flight are you trying to upgrade? Regardless if you see A class on an AA service with UK POS and under the prime AA flight number, then the BA team should be able to use a GUF to move you from Business into it.

Pilot37

wanderingjock

Yeah, thats exactly what I thought too - but I cant find any A avail on transcon for a number of dates in Nov/Dec - and I wondered if it had anything to do with maybe AA reclassifying A to be used for their new "auto upgrade if available" way of working, connected to Loyalty Points? I maybe misunderstood the chap who is AA Plat Exec telling it to me? There is one flight with the BA codeshare has A3 - and I'm just about to email GGL to see if I can GUF it. (ie will the codeshare A3 translate into availability on the prime AA flight number (although my booking is for the BA flt)

Re email to the GGL - recently an agent (who was on her first week) gave me the email address but it was different to the the one I used to have (and lost, doh). The one she gave me started with P and didnt have UK in the address anywhere - seem ok?? Also - what details are needed to give in the email (name/number/address/ etc?? ) Thanks!

BONDY

Hi Wandering Jock,

The email I use for the GGL team does indeed begin with a P and not have UK in the address.

When you send a message for the first time on any subject the auto-reply contains the following (I always send data with that first email)

QUOTE

In order to make sure we continue to securely protect your data we’ve revised our validation procedures, to allow us to discuss your details or bookings with you. This ensures that we only discuss issues with you, or with a person you've given us the authority to talk to on your behalf.
For all your account queries (including the email you’ve just sent to us), you will need to provide your membership number plus 3 pieces of verification information from the following choices, before we can answer you:

- The first line and postcode of the registered address on your account
- The name of a nominee on your account
- The last 4-digits and expiry date of a saved credit card, or your full passport number and expiry date

We thank you so much for your support and cooperation with this.

UNQUOTE

Hope this helps

BONDY

crazyarmadillo

Quite a few details. When you send the email, there should, or was, an auto reply telling you the info to supply.

Cant remember exactly what now, as I phone these days.

Just regular info.

Edit. As stated above by BONDY

Pilot37

Just to answer your first question and also for other GUF users looking to use it on AA flights:

1) AA use ‘A’ class as a revenue class but under AA prime numbers they don’t release many (if any!) so trying to take advantage via a GUF is hard!
2) Regardless of whether you are booked under the BA flight number or the AA prime, you need ‘A’ class under the AA prime and BA can then use to it GUF
3) Availability does open up, after nothing for months, 3 ‘A’ class seats under AA prime opened up on Sunday for this Friday afternoon’s JFK - LAX 3.30pm flight and I was able to grab one via BA and upgrade using an existing GUF and £4.50 in taxes.
4) Look at off-peak time flights for best chance to use your GUF, the first flight of the day from either LAX to JFK or JFK to LAX seems to have quite a few ‘A’ class seats available and so does the very last flight of the day from either city and naturally mid-week seems better vs a Friday evening.

In summation - keep looking / put alerts on EF and don’t give up hope!

Pilot37

wanderingjock

Pilot37, thanks VERY much for your detailed and clear explanation! I've set a couple of alerts in EF for A availability.

crazyarmadillo

As Pilot37 says keep checking A class does become available, not as easy as before COVID.

AA in their wisdom have decimated their schedules. Jfk lax over the past couple years or so for a number of reasons.

But keep checking, it's my favourite route and cabin!!

Good luck