GGL benefits timing
Feb 25, 2017, 3:48 pm
#61
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Tried to find an answer to this but failed miserably so have to ask.
Both Me and the Mrs. will hit 5k TP well before our year ends (8th of Jan 2018 for both of us).
I have been wondering if we are able to gift the Gold status's to each other and thus guaranteeing Gold through 2020? In my thinking we will enjoy Gold/GGL for the whole year of 2018 and when our TP year ends on 8th of Jan 2019 we would just gift each other those Gold cards and enjoy Gold status until the end of 2020.
I'm doubting my thinking about if it really would work that way.
Both Me and the Mrs. will hit 5k TP well before our year ends (8th of Jan 2018 for both of us).
I have been wondering if we are able to gift the Gold status's to each other and thus guaranteeing Gold through 2020? In my thinking we will enjoy Gold/GGL for the whole year of 2018 and when our TP year ends on 8th of Jan 2019 we would just gift each other those Gold cards and enjoy Gold status until the end of 2020.
I'm doubting my thinking about if it really would work that way.
Feb 26, 2017, 3:52 am
#62
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Grateful for some confirmation (or otherwise) please, that my approach is correct.
I seem to remember from last year that it is best to wait until the card recipient's card has expired before renewing status.
One of my Silver card holder recipient's BAEC year started in 8 February and his card expires on 31 March 2017. My intention is to wait until say 1 April, and then renew his Silver card, which I think will give him Silver status until 31 March 2019?
Thank you.
I seem to remember from last year that it is best to wait until the card recipient's card has expired before renewing status.
One of my Silver card holder recipient's BAEC year started in 8 February and his card expires on 31 March 2017. My intention is to wait until say 1 April, and then renew his Silver card, which I think will give him Silver status until 31 March 2019?
Thank you.
Feb 26, 2017, 5:54 am
#63
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Yes, it would expire at the end of March 2019.
Feb 26, 2017, 6:10 am
#64
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Feb 26, 2017, 7:00 am
#65
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I am so sorry for this basic question. I know it's been covered over and over again, and I feel like the kid in the back of the class who eats paste - I still don't get it.
I just qualified for GGL for the first time. My collection year ends May 2017, and my card expires June 2018.
If I want to nominate someone who is not currently a member of BAEC, for gold, and the goal is for them to have gold status for the longest possible time:
--should they enroll March 1, so their card will expire April 30, 2018? Then sometime in March I nominate them?
From my limited understanding, this is pretty much all I can do, since I won't get a second set of nominations, and since he's not currently a BAEC member. It just squeaks out one more month of gold for them.
--or, is there some trick to it that I'm not seeing, that would enable him to have gold longer?
Thank you so much for the advice.
I just qualified for GGL for the first time. My collection year ends May 2017, and my card expires June 2018.
If I want to nominate someone who is not currently a member of BAEC, for gold, and the goal is for them to have gold status for the longest possible time:
--should they enroll March 1, so their card will expire April 30, 2018? Then sometime in March I nominate them?
From my limited understanding, this is pretty much all I can do, since I won't get a second set of nominations, and since he's not currently a BAEC member. It just squeaks out one more month of gold for them.
--or, is there some trick to it that I'm not seeing, that would enable him to have gold longer?
Thank you so much for the advice.
Feb 26, 2017, 8:01 am
#66
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I'm fairly sure that gifting a gold card is handled by the system in the same way as earning the same tier level - so the status will be valid for the rest of their "earning year" (based on 8th of the month) *and* all of their next earning year *and* to the end of the month after the next-next earning year starts.
Feb 26, 2017, 8:52 am
#67
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I'm fairly sure that gifting a gold card is handled by the system in the same way as earning the same tier level - so the status will be valid for the rest of their "earning year" (based on 8th of the month) *and* all of their next earning year *and* to the end of the month after the next-next earning year starts.
Mar 6, 2017, 3:14 pm
#68
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So I understand the gifting, but with regards to the F&F list, once you remove someone, after 24hrs it locks that option for 6 months. So, if I nominated someone today and removed them from the F&F in a week, would that cause any issues?
Jun 1, 2017, 4:09 am
#70
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Have a weird scenario here
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2018: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2018: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2018 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2018: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2018: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2018 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Last edited by ermen; Jun 1, 2017 at 7:22 pm Reason: edit for clarity
Jun 1, 2017, 4:50 am
#71
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Have a weird scenario here
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2017: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2017: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2017 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2017: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2017: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2017 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Jun 1, 2017, 10:01 am
#72
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Have a weird scenario here
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2017: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2017: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2017 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2017: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2017: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2017 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Who is Mr. XYZ?
I believe the tier point year starts based on the date of the first flight taken by the member.
Jun 1, 2017, 10:04 am
#73
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Yes, but if you're gifting them a status there would need to be a TP year to allocate the card to. Therefore I'd imagine the TP year would begin as soon as you issue the status.
Jun 1, 2017, 10:10 am
#74
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Jun 1, 2017, 12:16 pm
#75
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Have a weird scenario here
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2017: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2017: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2017 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Say I give someone who is not part of the BAEC program (call them Mr X) a Silver partner card as part of the GGL benefits
Jan 2017: Mr X joins BAEC. No flights credited.
Jan 2017: GGL gives silver card to Mr XYZ
June 2017 (say): Mr X takes their first BA flight and credits to BAEC
When will the Silver benefits end?
- Feb 2018 (expiry of their original BAEC card?)
- Aug 2018 (typically, the program / tier point dates only activate when the first flight is credited?)
Or another to ask is, when does the tier point collection year crystalise.
Family member joined BAEC 28 March 2017.
I gifted them a partner card the same day.
Per BA.com, their membership year ends 8 April 2018 and card expires May 2019 so they have received the benefit for the remainder of their current year plus the next year.
Hope that helps.
