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Travelling to Cuba before a stopover in the US

Old Sep 20, 2015, 10:52 am
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Travelling to Cuba before a stopover in the US

Hi everyone,

I am going soon to CUN for a few days and since Mexico is not that attractive to me, I would like to go to Cuba during those days. I found quite good tickets with CU from CUN to HAV.

The issue is that on the way back from CUN I am flying CUN-MIA on AA then MIA-LHR on BA. Since in the US we always need to proceed to immigration even if just connecting, will they say something about my recent stay in Cuba? Is there any chance they won't let me pass immigration and I would miss my connecting flight to LHR?

As anyone had the same situation?

Thank's for reading!
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 10:58 am
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With improving Diplomatic Relations I assume things are a little easier on average Joe at the Border?

You should consult a professional Immigration Lawyer for binding advice.
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by BLHD
You should consult a professional Immigration Lawyer for binding advice.
I would think that a rather extreme measure for something like this, not that a lawyer's advice wouldn't be in any way binding on the authorities anyway.
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:20 am
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I was doing this when relations were much worse than now, and as a non US citizen it was fine. Maybe some questions as to whether I had some cigars on me (and on non US routings there may have been a bit of Romeo y Julieta going to a supplier restaurant in Edinburgh), but that was about it. For the last few years even that has gone away, and I would guess in a few months AA will be flying MIA-HAV.

If you are not Global Entry you will need to declare the places you visited before landing in the USA. I would put Cuba as well as Mexico on that card.
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I was doing this when relations were much worse than now, and as a non US citizen it was fine. Maybe some questions as to whether I had some cigars on me (and on non US routings there may have been a bit of Romeo y Julieta going to a supplier restaurant in Edinburgh), but that was about it. For the last few years even that has gone away, and I would guess in a few months AA will be flying MIA-HAV.

If you are not Global Entry you will need to declare the places you visited before landing in the USA. I would put Cuba as well as Mexico on that card.
Indeed. As a non-US citizen it was fine even in the dark days. Now it will be much easier.

It does remind me of a funny (for me) story about 15 years ago when a girl I was sailing with at Antigua Race Week, and who had been in Cuba with her boyfriend the week before, asked me what I thought of her Crayola colouring project as she tried to change the 'Cuba' entry stamp in her US passport to 'Aruba'. I told her that I was pretty sure that USBP had seen both a Cuban and Aruban entry stamp before and that this was not the super-clever route. She made it back in at Miami, but a few years later ended up in prison near San Francisco for 18 months or so for embezzling a few million dollars from her IT-company boss.

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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:33 am
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Indeed. As a non-US citizen it was fine even in the dark days. Now it will be much easier.

It does remind me of a funny story when a girl I was sailing with sailing with at Antigua Race Week and who had been in Cuba with her boyfriend the week before asked me what I thought of her colouring project as she tried to change the 'Cuba' entry stamp in her US passport to 'Aruba'. I told her that I was pretty sure that USBP had seen both a Cuban and Aruban entry stamp before and that this was not the clever route. She made it back in but a few years later ended up in prison for a 18 months or so for embezzling a few million from her IT company boss.
Thank you for the answer! I definitely love FT for those burlesque stories added to simple questions
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I was doing this when relations were much worse than now, and as a non US citizen it was fine. Maybe some questions as to whether I had some cigars on me (and on non US routings there may have been a bit of Romeo y Julieta going to a supplier restaurant in Edinburgh), but that was about it. For the last few years even that has gone away, and I would guess in a few months AA will be flying MIA-HAV.

If you are not Global Entry you will need to declare the places you visited before landing in the USA. I would put Cuba as well as Mexico on that card.
Thank you for your answer! That was one of my main concern mentioning the visit to Cuba vs not mentioning it. You made it clear
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:44 am
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Originally Posted by Ldnn1
I would think that a rather extreme measure for something like this, not that a lawyer's advice wouldn't be in any way binding on the authorities anyway.
It was there as a disclaimer, I don't care what ya do, just don't quote my advice!
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:51 am
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When I last went to Mexico, I just got an entry stamp and no exit stamp.

When I last went to Cuba, I did not get either an entry or exit stamp.

Unless things have changed, I don't see why a US immigration official will know you have been to Cuba.

You are just transiting through US on way back from CUN
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by groundops
When I last went to Cuba, I did not get either an entry or exit stamp.
Either you got 'lucky' or things have changed (I suspect the former). When coming in for a few days, you should get both.
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
Either you got 'lucky' or things have changed (I suspect the former). When coming in for a few days, you should get both.
I didn't get a Cuba stamp at VRA, either (albeit 9 years ago now).

Major lols at your story, though - it's not like a genuine Aruba stamp is inconspicuous, either!
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 12:38 pm
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Lots of US travellers went there and just did the Israel trick (i.e. stamp is on a blank sheet of paper which is stapled into - and later removed from - the passport page).
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 1:42 pm
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Aye when i lived in cayman lots of people went to cuba. Everyone had cuba stamp a card and not passport and no one is any wiser. Interesting cws declares it but understandable now with the better relations, but even 5 years ago being caught with just cuban cigars could become a problem, sometimes the customs folks saw them and didnt care yet the cuban cigar seller at gcm airport still removes the labels.... Folks in cayman took the conservative options just in case there was that one immigration or customs officer.... Enjoy the trip to cuba!
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 2:31 pm
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Since there's a cuba discussion on this board I wil re-post a question that I asked on the IB board but has not had a reply after a few days.

I'm a UK passport holder flying from MAD-HAV. Will IB supply the tourist card or shall I arrange one via the Consulate in London ?
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Old Sep 20, 2015, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I would guess in a few months AA will be flying MIA-HAV
AA already fly MIA-HAV a dozen times a week at the peak, along with TPA-HAV and MIA to 5 or 6 other Cuban airports. I think you mean you guess in a few months AA will be flying scheduled commercial flights to HAV.

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
If you are not Global Entry you will need to declare the places you visited before landing in the USA. I would put Cuba as well as Mexico on that card.
MIA Terminal D has APC kiosks as you know, so unless you get asked specifically about it by a CBP officer there is no declaration of places you have been on the trip already because the kiosks don't ask for this and you no longer need the blue form with it written on.
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