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G-XLEA
Delivered on 4 Jul 2013

Went to SIN for maintenance on 30 May 2015 - extra revenue flight BA1011
Returned from SIN on 21 Jun 2015 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL for maintenance on 6 Mar 2017 - positioning flight BA9170
Returned from MNL on 12 Apr 2017 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL for maintenance on 22 Oct 2018 - positioning flight BA9173 from CRK after positioning flight BA9172 from SIN
Returned from MNL on 17 Dec 2018 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL for maintenance on 24 Sep 2021 - positioning flight BA9171
Returned from MNL on 26 Oct 2021 - positioning flight BA9170 to MAD

Went to MNL for maintenance on 10 October 2023 - positioning flight BA9170
Returned from MNL on 20 November 2023 - positioning flight BA9171


G-XLEB
Delivered on 20 Sep 2013

Went to SIN for maintenance on 1 Sep 2015 - positioning flight BA9172
Returned from SIN on 24 Sep 2015 AM - cargo flight BA9174F

Went to MNL for maintenance on 12 Apr 2017 - positioning flight BA9170
Returned from MNL on 20 May 2017 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL for maintenance on 6 Jan 2019 - positioning flight BA9170 from LGW after positioning flight BA9171 from LHR (to facilitate 04:55 London departure)
Returned from MNL on 4 Mar 2019 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL for maintenance on 21 Dec 2021 - positioning flight BA9171
Returned from MNL on 7 Feb 2022 - positioning flight BA9170 to MAD

Went to MNL for maintenance on 19 Dec 2023 - positioning flight BA9170
Returned from MNL on 1 Feb 2024 - positioning flight BA9171


G-XLEC
Delivered on 19 Oct 2013

Went to SIN for maintenance on 24 Sep 2015 PM - positioning flight BA9173
Returned from SIN on 17 Oct 2015 - positioning flight BA9174

Went to MNL maintenance on 2 Aug 2017 - positioning flight BA9170
Left MNL on 9 Sep 2017 (with a 12 hour stop in KUL) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 10 Mar 2019 - positioning flight BA9170 from LGW after positioning flight BA9171 the previous evening from LHR (to facilitate 05:18 London departure)
Left MNL on 6 May 2019 (with a 14 hour stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 4 Feb 2022 - positioning flight BA9177
Left MNL on 8 Mar 2022 - positioning flight BA9170 to MAD for storage

Went to MNL for maintenance on 28 Jan 2024 - positioning flight BA9170
Returned from MNL on 9th March 2024 - positioning flight BA9171


G-XLED
Delivered on 17 Jan 2014

Went to SIN for maintenance on 2 Jan 2016 - positioning flight BA9173
Returned from SIN on 24 Jan 2016 - revenue flight BA12

Went to MNL on 1 Oct 2017 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN
Left MNL on 8 Nov 2017 (with a 15 hour stop in KUL) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL on 12 Jun 2019 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN (with a stop in CRK to facilitate a specific MNL arrival time)
Returned from MNL on 6 Aug 2019 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL for maintenance on 16 Nov 2021 - positioning flight BA9170 from DOH
Returned from MNL on 23 Dec 2021 - positioning flight BA9170

Went to MNL for maintenance on 12 Dec 2023 - positioning flight BA9170 from LHR
Returned from MNL on 25 Jan 2024 - positioning flight BA9171 (flying last 3.5 hours at 43,000 ft)


G-XLEE
Delivered on 6 Mar 2014

Went to SIN for maintenance on 24 Jan 2016 - revenue flight BA11
Returned from SIN on 15 Feb 2016 - positioning flight

Went to MNL on 9 Nov 2017 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN
Returned from MNL on 16 Dec 2017 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL on 25 Aug 2019 - positioning flight BA9170 from LHR
Returned from MNL on 19 Oct 2019 (with a 15 hour stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL on 8 Mar 2022 - positioning flight BA9171 from DOH
Left MNL on 14 Apr 2022 (local time) - positioning flight BA9172 to MAD

Went to MNL on 3 Mar 2024 - positioning flight BA9170
Expected to return from MNL around 10 Apr 2024


G-XLEF
Delivered on 15 May 2014

Went to SIN for maintenance on 26 Mar 2016 - positioning flight
Returned from SIN on 16 Apr 2016 - positioning flight

Went to MNL for maintenance on 21 Jan 2018 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN
Left MNL on 25 Feb 2018 (with a 16 hour stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 23 Nov 2019 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN (with a 3 hour stop in CRK)
Left MNL on 19 Jan 2020 (with a 16 hour stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 3 Jan 2022 - positioning flight BA9172
Returned from MNL on 4 Feb 2022 - positioning flight BA9178

Went to MNL for maintenance on 21 Jan 2024 - positioning flight BA9170
Returned from MNL on 24 Feb 2024 - positioning flight BA9171


G-XLEG
Delivered on 11 Sep 2014

Went to SIN for maintenance on 4 Sep 2016 - positioning flight
Returned from SIN on 25 Sep 2016 - revenue flight BA12

Went to MNL for maintenance on 25 Feb 2018 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN
Left MNL on 9 Apr 2018 (with a 16 hour stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 7 Mar 2020 - positioning flight BA9171 from LHR
Left MNL on 25 May 2020 - positioning flight BA9174 to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 1 Apr 2022 - positioning flight BA9171
Returned from MNL on 13 May 2022 - positioning flight BA9172


G-XLEH
Delivered on 16 Oct 2014

Went to SIN for maintenance on 25 Sep 2016 - revenue flight BA11
Returned from SIN on 15 Oct 2016 - positioning flight

Went to MNL for maintenance on 10 Aug 2018 - positioning flight BA9170 from LHR
Left MNL on 16 Sep 2018 (with a 7 hour stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 21 May 2020 - positioning flight BA9173 from LHR
Departed MNL maintenance on 21 Aug 2020 (delayed by Covid-19) - positioning flight BA9170

Went to MNL for maintenance on 3rd August 2022 - positioning flight BA9173 from MAD
Returned from MNL on 11th September 2022 - positioning flight BA9170


G-XLEI
Delivered on 13 Feb 2015

Went to MNL for maintenance on 2 Jan 2017 - positioning flight
Returned from MNL on 21 Jan 2017 - positioning flight

Went to MNL on 16 Sep 2018 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN
Left MNL on 21 Oct 2018 (with a stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL on 18 Aug 2020 - positioning flight BA9171
Left MNL on 16 Oct 2020 - positioning flight BA9170

Went to MNL on 7th Sep 2022 - positioning flight BA9171
Returned from MNL on 28th Oct 2022 - positioning flight BA9171


G-XLEJ
Delivered on 10 Nov 2015

Went to MNL for maintenance on 9 Sep 2017 - positioning flight BA9170 from SIN
Left MNL on 28 Sep 2017 (with a 3.5 day stop in KUL) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL on 7 May 2019 - positing flight BA9172/3 from SIN via 3 hours in CRK
Left MNL on 11 Jun 2019 (with a stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 1 Feb 2022 - positioning flight BA9179 from DOH
Left MNL on 16th Jul 2022 - positioning flight BA9170


G-XLEK
Delivered on 3 Feb 2016

Went to MNL for maintenance on 2 Jan 2018 - positioning flight from LHR
Left MNL on 21 Jan 2018 (with a 15 hour stop in KUL) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL on 19 Oct 2019 - positioning flights BA9172/3 from SIN via CRK
Left MNL on 22 Nov 2019 - (with a 15 hour stop in CRK) - revenue flight BA12 from SIN to LHR

Went to MNL for maintenance on 23 Oct 2021 - positioning flight BA9171
Returned from MNL on 5 Jan 2022 - positioning flight BA9173 to MAD

Went to MNL for maintenance on 19 Nov 2023 - positioning flight BA9170 from LGW after positioning flight BA9173 from LHR previous evening (to facilitate 03:50 departure from London)
Returned from MNL on 23 Dec 2023 - positioning flight BA9171


G-XLEL
Delivered on 22 Jun 2016

Went to MNL for maintenance on 9 Apr 2018 - positioning flight BA9172 from SIN
Left MNL on 28 Apr 2018 - positioning flight BA9171

Went to MNL on 19 Jan 2020 - positioning flights BA9172/3 from SIN via CRK (2 hours)
Left MNL on 23 Feb 2020 - positioning flight BA9170

Went to MNL for maintenance on 8 Feb 2022 - positioning flight BA9174
Left MNL on 1 Apr 2022 - positioning flight BA9170

Went to MNL on 20 Feb 2024 - positioning flight BA9170
Returned from MNL on 28 Mar 2024 - positioning flight BA9171


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Old Sep 2, 2015, 9:15 am
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A380 maintenance Manila (formerly Singapore)
Does anybody know if all BA A380 heavy maintenance will be done in SIN ?

British Airways A380 G-XLEA Operates Singapore Extra for Maintenance Check. | The BA Source
British Airways A380 G-XLEB Positions to Singapore Maintenance. | The BA Source

It looks like for XLEA BA operated an additional flight, but for XLEB it was empty.
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Yes. I believe so.

It was always the plan to out-source the A380 heavy work due to the infrastructure costs required to bring it in-house.

SIN and FRA were options I remember being mentioned, so obviously SIN won out on price.
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Rolls Royce also have an engine service plant out there so maybe that factored into it.
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Rolls Royce also have an engine service plant out there so maybe that factored into it.
Bit more than that, it's a whole engine manufacturing facility which includes the Trent 900 on the A380, so they could do a straight swap as part of the maintenance (I'm assuming BA use RR to provide the power by the hour service).


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Bit more than that, it's a whole engine manufacturing facility which includes the Trent 900 on the A380, so they could do a straight swap as part of the maintenance (I'm assuming BA use RR to provide the power by the hour service).


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Ah, sorry. I knew it was a full replica of the Derby facility but hadn't realised what that entailed. Surely it helped and I'm sure they do use RR power plants .
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if they start running these flights on a regular basis, might be an opportunity to get a nice empty sector !
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Originally Posted by fartoomanyusers
if they start running these flights on a regular basis, might be an opportunity to get a nice empty sector !
How do you mean?

If the aircraft position out to SIN empty, passengers won't legally be allowed to be carried as there will be no cabin crew onboard etc.
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Old Sep 4, 2015, 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by BingBongBoy
How do you mean?

If the aircraft position out to SIN empty, passengers won't legally be allowed to be carried as there will be no cabin crew onboard etc.
the first flight went out as an "additional rotation" ... I'm hoping more will be operated as flights rather than going empty ...

http://www.thebasource.com/british-a...tenance-check/
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Originally Posted by BingBongBoy
How do you mean?

If the aircraft position out to SIN empty, passengers won't legally be allowed to be carried as there will be no cabin crew onboard etc.
Won't the spare crew will get flown out as CW passengers to fly the plane filled back to LHR, after a suitable rest period in Singapore?
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Ironically, the LHR maintenance on the SQ A380 fleet is done by BA - and they were doing this even before BA received its own.
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Old Sep 4, 2015, 6:15 am
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Originally Posted by Raffles
Ironically, the LHR maintenance on the SQ A380 fleet is done by BA - and they were doing this even before BA received its own.
I read about that - but presumably this is just light / line engineering, not the heavy stuff that BA gets done in Singapore !
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Originally Posted by Raffles
Ironically, the LHR maintenance on the SQ A380 fleet is done by BA - and they were doing this even before BA received its own.
BA provides general maintenance and ground support for many airlines at LHR, just as other airlines do for BA at outstations.

However SQ doesn't get C/D checks for their A380s done at LHR, just any unplanned/minor maintenance. The BA A380's are in SIN for C/D checks.
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Since XLEC was delivered a month after XLEB, I guess she should be heading off to SIN in a few weeks for her C check.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircra...tenance_checks
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An aircraft heading out there for maintainence will operate a commercial sector, then be towed off to the hanger afterwards. When it return to service it will operate the return to LHR as the next aircraft comes in for it's check etc etc. It is only the first aircraft to make the trip that would leave a return service to LHR uncovered, requiring either a cancellation or empty 'positioner' the day prior in order to cover the return, which would likely be a 747 as we have a few more of those knocking around.
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An aircraft heading out there for maintainence will operate a commercial sector, then be towed off to the hanger afterwards. When it return to service it will operate the return to LHR as the next aircraft comes in for it's check etc etc. It is only the first aircraft to make the trip that would leave a return service to LHR uncovered, requiring either a cancellation or empty 'positioner' the day prior in order to cover the return, which would likely be a 747 as we have a few more of those knocking around.
I don't think this is correct (although it may sometimes happen by chance), as BA don't have enough A380s, and the delivery schedule doesn't matching the timing of C-checks - which generally takes place every 20-24 months, and last around 3 weeks.

G-XLEA
Delivered on 4 Jul 2013
Went to SIN for maintenance on 30 May 2015 (approx 23 months)
Returned from SIN on 21 June 2015 (approx 3 weeks in maintenance)

G-XLEB
Delivered on 20 Sep 2013
Went to SIN for maintenance on 1 Sep 2015 (approx 23 months)
Will presumably return from SIN approx 21 Sep 2015


G-XLEC
Delivered on 19 Oct 2013
Will presumably go to SIN for maintenance approx 1 Oct 2015
Will presumably return from SIN approx 21 Oct 2015


G-XLED
Delivered on 17 Jan 2014
Will presumably go to SIN for maintenance approx 1 Dec 2015
Will presumably return from SIN approx 21 Dec 2015


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