Child still charged APD [?]
Aug 24, 2015, 8:51 am
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Child still charged APD [?]
If I believe what BA wrote here, they stopped collecting the APD for children tickets purchased after May 1st, 2015.
Yet I just bought two Avios+Money coach tickets ORY-LHR-YYC, one for an adult and the other for a 7-year old, and both cost the same. A UK APD (44,51€ flying west, and 31,91€ for the eastward journey) is collected for both pax.
Is this normal ? I called EC but the agent was clueless, except to say "if BA unduly collected a tax, it will be reimbursed to you after the flight".
Yet I just bought two Avios+Money coach tickets ORY-LHR-YYC, one for an adult and the other for a 7-year old, and both cost the same. A UK APD (44,51€ flying west, and 31,91€ for the eastward journey) is collected for both pax.
Is this normal ? I called EC but the agent was clueless, except to say "if BA unduly collected a tax, it will be reimbursed to you after the flight".
Aug 24, 2015, 9:00 am
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I presume you are stopping over in London each way? If you are just connecting at LHR and doing so within 24hrs on the same ticket you are not charged APD. I have just done a dummy quote for ORY-LHR-YYC in Y and no APD is charged.
Aug 24, 2015, 9:08 am
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Just to add that of you were doing a stopover each way an adult would pay Ł71 (for LHR-YYC - Ł73 after 1 April 2016) and Ł13 (for LHR-ORY). Total would therefore be Ł84.
If I actually price up ORY-LHR-YYC with a stopover each way in London BA.com clearly shows an Air Passenger Duty of EUR 118.01 which is the Ł84 figure.
Where are you seeing €44.51 or €31.91 as these don't match any current APD rates.
If I actually price up ORY-LHR-YYC with a stopover each way in London BA.com clearly shows an Air Passenger Duty of EUR 118.01 which is the Ł84 figure.
Where are you seeing €44.51 or €31.91 as these don't match any current APD rates.
Aug 24, 2015, 9:09 am
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Neither of those amount convert to the current APD rate of Ł71 for a Y ticket to destinations outwith of the EU (and Ł13 for intra EU)
And APD does not apply to flights into the UK only ex UK flights.
In tthe eh fare brreakdown what is the 2 letter code next to the amounts?
And APD does not apply to flights into the UK only ex UK flights.
In tthe eh fare brreakdown what is the 2 letter code next to the amounts?
Aug 24, 2015, 9:15 am
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Just done a dummy booking and the two amounts mentioned by the OP total up to the UK passenger service charge i.e. HAL fees.
This is NOT a tax but a fee and is payable by everyone.
This is NOT a tax but a fee and is payable by everyone.
Aug 24, 2015, 9:27 am
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Aug 24, 2015, 9:28 am
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Still, it does not explain why the overall cost of the ticket is the same for the adult and the child. Here is the breakdown of the charges for the eastward journey (there is a similar breakdown for the westward route). This is a straight connection in LHR, not a stopover.
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Aug 24, 2015, 9:37 am
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Because the airport and government charges and fees apply per person whatever their age.
e.g. Before APD was eliminated for children flying in Economy the rate was the same as for an adult (just as it is for a child flying in WT+.CW or F)
e.g. Before APD was eliminated for children flying in Economy the rate was the same as for an adult (just as it is for a child flying in WT+.CW or F)
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Aug 24, 2015, 9:40 am
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Still, it does not explain why the overall cost of the ticket is the same for the adult and the child. Here is the breakdown of the charges for the eastward journey (there is a similar breakdown for the westward route). This is a straight connection in LHR, not a stopover.
As there is no APD charged on your itinerary why should the adult and child price be different?
Aug 24, 2015, 10:03 am
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Interesting that the breakdown includes 'surcharge de carburante'.
My French is a little rusty but doesn't that translate as 'fuel surcharge'? Didn't BA stop calling it that (in English) in favour of 'carrier imposed charge' ages ago?
My French is a little rusty but doesn't that translate as 'fuel surcharge'? Didn't BA stop calling it that (in English) in favour of 'carrier imposed charge' ages ago?
Aug 24, 2015, 10:07 am
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It says "fuel surchage" in the breakdown on the UK-English version.
Aug 24, 2015, 11:18 am
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That does indeed translate into fuel surcharge.
Aug 24, 2015, 12:46 pm
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There is no APD charged on your itinerary since you are not stopping over in the UK. As I already noted, if you are just connecting at LHR and doing so within 24hrs on the same ticket you are not charged APD
As there is no APD charged on your itinerary why should the adult and child price be different?
As there is no APD charged on your itinerary why should the adult and child price be different?
So, what is the English translation / acronym for "Frais de service passager" ?
And on a more general note, I am really upset that BA is not able / willing to provide a non-ambiguous breakdown of charges and taxes in the fare section of the e-ticket.