BA Cockpit Safety regulations
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A Purser'S Airbus Cockpit EMERGENCY Access Procedure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHxv...l=MissDontNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHxv...l=MissDontNews
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They may not be able to, but what they can do is open the door if the pilot flying won't.
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I'm sure we're all aware of the procedures at say AA where a Cabin Crew Member enters the flight deck when a pilot leaves. Surely this is better than this not happening at all?! Give them a little bit of training on opening the door, it looks very simple, I'm sure I could do it now after watching the video.
If the argument is then well, the CCM could be overpowered...yes true. And then equally maybe a pilot can bring a machete onboard, a machine gun or a bomb, but all those things are a given. Requiring a CCM to go into the cockpit would be a positive change.
If the argument is then well, the CCM could be overpowered...yes true. And then equally maybe a pilot can bring a machete onboard, a machine gun or a bomb, but all those things are a given. Requiring a CCM to go into the cockpit would be a positive change.
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It like that all day every day. Terrible though these events are they are incredibly rare, and realistically our diet, or keeping your car well maintained, even our ability to swim are or rather should be of bigger concern.
BTW, I have two BA flights tomorrow IST->LHR->NCL. Deeply saddened by what has happened but not worried by it.
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Of course it's the same.... as any other European airline I've ever flown so BA is no different. Have you ever seen a CCM "replace" a pilot on a European flight? I haven't. If its going to change it will be mandated by the European agency or perhaps the CAA.
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After MH370 (still speculation, but seems to be accepted as the most plausible explanation) and now this its highly likely things will change. Noone can expect BA to have a different system already in place.
The most effective solution to my mind would be some sort of emergency access code that cannot be blocked, but must be communicated up to the cabin (not flight deck) from the ground.
The most effective solution to my mind would be some sort of emergency access code that cannot be blocked, but must be communicated up to the cabin (not flight deck) from the ground.
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In a strange sort of way the recent revelation reassures me. I know that it is a terrible thing to have happened, but it's good to know that this wasn't a mechanical failure.
Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do about the human element as people can always find a way to get around procedures and security (whatever is in place). Fortunately, this type of thing isn't likely to happen often IMO.
Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do about the human element as people can always find a way to get around procedures and security (whatever is in place). Fortunately, this type of thing isn't likely to happen often IMO.
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Unfortunately, it's going to be basically impossible to have a completely foolproof system to keep "bad guys" out and allow "good guys" in. Thankfully, this kind of incident is exceedingly rare.
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Like everyone else I have been following the news of the terrible Germanwings tragedy. It was reported that the USA have a regulation which makes it compulsory to have two people in the cockpit at ALL times. My question is this - does anyone know if BA follow this rule - and which if any other European airlines have adopted it?
I don't think it would change much by requiring 2 people n the fligth deck.. if someone has the will they will find the way. Wasn't there a pilot suicide where 2 pilots were on the flight deck and fought the controls until it crashed (egyptair?).
And surely this kind of rule only seeds mistrust between crew?
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Norwegian have announced they will now require 2 people in the cockpit at all times with immediate effect.
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Norwegian have announced a policy change of not having a lone person in the cockpit. Makes sense to me.
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I'm pretty sure it's SOP on FR for a member of the cabin crew to enter the cockpit while the pilot uses the facilities. It's happened every time the pilot has come out of the cockpit when I've flown FR.