Passengers that makes you want to scream

Old Feb 27, 15, 1:48 pm
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Passengers that makes you want to scream

We rant ad infinitum, here, on how BA is letting us down and crew can't be arsed and ground staff don't care and blah blah blah, but what about our fellow passengers?

I've had my fair share of encounters with unsavory travelers, from obnoxious individuals to complete knobs. Take, for example, the Alicante flight that I've been on a couple of days ago: a packed flight with people who've decided to take onboard half of their possessions, at least judging by the dimensions of their carrier bags, and that all pretended that the crew literally created the space for them. Without using the space where the yellow-labeled bags should go, obviously.

Then, in Club, the full English runs out, leaving only the frittata or the cold platter. Now, I'm a big fan of the cold platter, and so are my arteries; but I understand that the full English is always the full English, and not having it might cause a bit of a stir. What I don't understand is why a grown man, possibly a man with a job and responsibilities and commitments, needs to behave like a 13-years-old teenager when he's told that, alas, the beloved sausages and bacon have indeed run out. And neither I understand why this man needs to subject the cabin crew, nice to a fault and really ready to find alternatives (seriously, she was showing quite a lot of inventive), to a stream-of-consciousness of rantings including punctuality, bags, the new Club cabin, food, price, the Border Force, all intertwined by the classic accusatory mantra "What are you gonna do about that?". Ignoring that, yes, she's offered you alternatives. Yes, she's offered you to fill a complaint form. Yes, she's apologised. And, no, she can't fetch you another sausage-and-bacon combo because we're in the middle of the bloody air.

Then, finally, a medical emergency happens. A full blown one, including defibrillator, big medkits, oxygen bottles aplenty, a panicked nurse who is asking the crew what can be done for her patient and the cliche call "Is there a doctor onboard?" (luckily, there was, bless him). All this, I should point out, on a A320.

And here comes mr Gold card holder (he took pride in showing it dangling from the handle of this carrier bag), hitting the 'call' bell button multiple times, only to ask the cabin crew, shuttling oxygen back and forth, for a drink. On a flight with 3 crews and a medical emergency going on. As fas as inappropriateness goes, this is second only to the one asking "Y'alright babe?" to a woman at her husband's funeral.

I see this sort of behaviour almost every single time I take it to the skies. Some routes - the Middle East, south of Spain - seem more affected than others, but there's no denying that for every cabin crew not doing his/her job, there are 10 of us behaving like, well, the diminutive of Richard.

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Old Feb 27, 15, 2:35 pm
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Classy, very classy.......
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Old Feb 27, 15, 2:37 pm
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I think you see weird and selfish behaviour almost anywhere, but perhaps it's more visible when we're all crammed into a small place. Or perhaps airlines have created a sense of entitlement in their passengers by offering status. That's certainly demonstrated on this forum when people complain about not being greeted by name. Surely cabin crew have better things to do than toady up to a subset of passengers.
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Old Feb 27, 15, 2:46 pm
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I find the exact opposite, most people...and yes even fellow passengers are normally nice to each other.
OK you get the odd DYKWIA, not only on planes but other places too.

The behaviour you described is appalling, it takes a really 'special' person to put themselves before a medical emergency.

As far as breakfast (or any other onboard meal) is concerned, surely it is well known that you may or may not get your first choice.
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Old Feb 27, 15, 2:53 pm
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How did the pax with the emergency end up doing?

RE: The DWKWIA blowhard - at some point it may be helpful to speak up and let him know what an ... he is being. Do him some good. I've done it once or twice in extreme circumstances.
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Old Feb 27, 15, 3:17 pm
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Ok, so I don't know the full facts, and I don't want to excuse selfish behaviour, but surely it doesn't take 3 cabin crew, in addition to a doctor and a nurse, to deal with a (single passenger) emergency ?
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Old Feb 27, 15, 3:22 pm
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Ok, so I don't know the full facts, and I don't want to excuse selfish behaviour, but surely it doesn't take 3 cabin crew, in addition to a doctor and a nurse, to deal with a (single passenger) emergency ?
One or two crew to find/dig out the medical equipment, one or two crew to help move what sounds like an unconscious patient, you're up to three or four already.

Any bozo ringing his call button for yet another drink in that situation should be bound and gagged.
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Was the pax OWBA by any chance?
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Old Feb 27, 15, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by bafan View Post
I don't want to excuse selfish behaviour
Really? I'm afraid I read your post as doing exactly that.
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Old Feb 27, 15, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by missdimeaner View Post
I find the exact opposite, most people...and yes even fellow passengers are normally nice to each other.
OK you get the odd DYKWIA, not only on planes but other places too..
Tend to agree.

Compared to other forms of public transport the general public I've encountered while flying have always been a cut above. For instance I've yet to have some inebriated stranger come up to me on an aircraft and call me Jimmy.
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I take it you prefer "James?"

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Really? I'm afraid I read your post as doing exactly that.
Not sure how ?
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Old Feb 27, 15, 4:57 pm
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Not sure how ?
Oh I dont know. Maybe it was something to do with your suggestion that it is fine for a GCH to demand a G&T while the crew are dealing with a medical emergency because a well organised BA crew should be able to save someone's life and serve drinks at the same time.
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Old Feb 27, 15, 5:11 pm
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Perhaps the defibrillator needs two sets of pads: one to administer defibrillation shock if needed, another for the crew to use on truly obnoxious passengers that applies a sobering level of voltage to calm them down.
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Old Feb 27, 15, 5:30 pm
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You need three cabin crew in a medical emergency that involves doing CPR.

One to do the compressions and one to hold the airway open and administer the breaths of air. (Ideally another to administer the shocks) the third one needs to liaise with the Flight Crew and keep them informed.

Doctors and nurses are great for prescribing, diagnosing and administering medication but believe it or not, most cabin crew are more used to practicing CPR and using a defibrillator than a lot of Doctors are.
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