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Marty82 Feb 5, 2015 7:32 pm

Would something like an SAS Café Lounge or Air New Zealand Koru Express Lounge work at an expanded LCY?

http://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-launches-cafe-lounges/

http://www.ausbt.com.au/a-new-concep...z-koru-express

nobbyclark Feb 6, 2015 5:57 am


Originally Posted by FrancisA (Post 24290718)
I personally would use a lounge as I do not travel from the city and therefore have to leave in good time to avoid missing flights. For me LCY is just another London airport and its lack of a lounge mean that I avoid it for departures.

The time I would really want a lounge is when flights are delayed and even though you have turned up 30 minutes before, you actually need to wait in the departure area for 2 hours or more. It's happened to me more times than I can remember.

NYTA Feb 6, 2015 6:04 am

It's stupid to spend that much on renovating the airport without lengthening the runway, although I agree that the existing terminal area can get crowded.

DernierVirage Feb 6, 2015 6:49 am

Incredible how things change. I used to fly out of LCY back in 1992 when it was basically a ghost town, especially at weekends. I often used to take an AF flight to CDG on Sunday evenings where on one occasion there were only two passengers on the flight. If I remember correctly, the airport actually closed down completely between Saturday and Sunday midday...or something like that.

Kgmm77 Feb 6, 2015 7:10 am

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Originally Posted by NYTA
It's stupid to spend that much on renovating the airport without lengthening the runway, although I agree that the existing terminal area can get crowded.

AIUI, there is no benefit from increasing the runway (ignoring how difficult that would be) unless you knock down half of Canary & New Providence Wharves, as the glideslope is the limiting factor as much as runway length.

BA-Flyer Feb 6, 2015 7:21 am


Originally Posted by DernierVirage (Post 24301865)
If I remember correctly, the airport actually closed down completely between Saturday and Sunday midday...or something like that.

It still does - I believe they are legally required to give the nearby residents 24 hours 'quiet time' at the weekend. (In addition to closing at 10pm on weeknights).

dnajockey Feb 6, 2015 7:30 am


Originally Posted by NYTA (Post 24301675)
It's stupid to spend that much on renovating the airport without lengthening the runway, although I agree that the existing terminal area can get crowded.

They are building a taxiway so that aircraft don't have to use the runway for extended movements as they do at present.

corporate-wage-slave Feb 6, 2015 7:32 am

Welcome to Flyertalk spanglysteve
 

Originally Posted by spanglysteve (Post 24299294)
As another member has said, the Connaught tunnel actually goes underneath the runway. I was lucky enough to get a tour of it last year and took this photo as it amused me (i was standing directly underneath the runway at the time!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...1/IMG_0685.JPG

Welcome to Flyertalk spanglysteve, welcome to the British Airways board. Thanks for that interesting snippet. Prospero has linked it in, some of the old lags get irked by pictures over 800 x 600, but don't let that stop you! Please continue to post, and welcome once again to the forum.

I was at LCY earlier today so I was interested in the fact that there is this tunnel below the runway - I had no idea. But I can certainly remember the trains trundling through Silvertown station, past the Tate and Lyle factory and then off to the ferry head. It's quite an interesting area, one of Britain's biggest explosions took place not far from there during WWI and was successfully covered up for many years.

paul4040 Feb 6, 2015 7:57 am

The Connaught tunnel doesn't pass under the runway but instead a small sliver of the Jet Centre apron at the very southeastern corner. It's still under airport property though, for sure: https://constructionetc.files.wordpr...nnaught-ga.jpg

clarkeysntfc Feb 6, 2015 7:58 am


Originally Posted by hcuk94 (Post 24292604)
Does seem odd, but then it'd only be a quick change onto DLR anyway.

OT, but I'll be interested to see how Heathrow Express will fare once Crossrail is in operation. I live in Essex and work near Farringdon, so with Crossrail taking a mere 35 minutes from Liverpool Street to Heathrow, it pretty much abolishes the need for HEX for me.

Hopefully some decent competition and good news for consumers in form of fare competition.

paul4040 Feb 6, 2015 8:15 am


Originally Posted by Marty82 (Post 24299845)
Would something like an SAS Café Lounge or Air New Zealand Koru Express Lounge work at an expanded LCY?

http://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-launches-cafe-lounges/

http://www.ausbt.com.au/a-new-concep...z-koru-express

It's difficult to imagine what a lounge at LCY would be like.

On the one hand, based on volume of Golds alone, I can see a Gold-only lounge, but what sort of Gold customer would actually use it? The vast majority of LCY users who are Gold are there precisely because of the time saving; that extra 30 minutes at home, or the office, knowing they can stroll up from a taxi and walk directly onto the plane.

Globaliser Feb 6, 2015 8:53 am


Originally Posted by zkzkz (Post 24292495)
I wonder if this would mean it would be accessible from Crossrail. It seemed crazy to build a new underground train line and bring it *almost* but not quite to LCY.


Originally Posted by hcuk94 (Post 24292604)
Does seem odd, but then it'd only be a quick change onto DLR anyway.


Originally Posted by paul4040 (Post 24302200)
The Connaught tunnel doesn't pass under the runway but instead a small sliver of the Jet Centre apron at the very southeastern corner. It's still under airport property though, for sure: https://constructionetc.files.wordpr...nnaught-ga.jpg

It seems rather curious to me that a brand new railway line that runs right underneath London City Airport will not have a station there. I may be missing something, but I don't see any "quick changes" from Crossrail to the DLR to get to LCY.

It's a bit like the LHR situation; it's almost as if our transport system is required to make it difficult to get to airports by rail.

paulwuk Feb 6, 2015 8:53 am


Originally Posted by paul4040 (Post 24295006)
I don't think an A318 can reach Bermuda on account that it's rated for only 180 minutes ETOPS. This means on any route it flies it cannot be more than 180 minutes away from a suitable diversion airfield. Its fine until it gets to the mid Atlantic, I think, and then it just becomes too remote.

4 miles nearer than SNN-JFK, and no problems with ETOPS (in fact the JFK run goes closer to the 138 minute triangle)

GCMAP

dnajockey Feb 6, 2015 9:02 am


Originally Posted by Globaliser (Post 24302518)
It seems rather curious to me that a brand new railway line that runs right underneath London City Airport will not have a station there. I may be missing something, but I don't see any "quick changes" from Crossrail to the DLR to get to LCY.

It's a bit like the LHR situation; it's almost as if our transport system is required to make it difficult to get to airports by rail.

You may not know that the crossrail station at canary wharf will be directly linked to poplar on the DLR, which should be a pretty quick change

Globaliser Feb 6, 2015 9:06 am


Originally Posted by dnajockey (Post 24302560)
You may not know that the crossrail station at canary wharf will be directly linked to poplar on the DLR, which should be a pretty quick change

It's about 200 yards. That's not what I call a quick change, especially as some heading for LCY will have luggage with them.


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