The 2015 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation 261/2004
#601
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Yeah will do. Our flight was delayed 2.5 hours going there but won't get nothing for this
Have you ever heard of the Renaissance Hotel not giving drinks out? BA desk said food drinks & breakfast were included
Raj the manager say BA never give drinks for their hotel!? We had pints so doubt they will pay us for that
Have you ever heard of the Renaissance Hotel not giving drinks out? BA desk said food drinks & breakfast were included
Raj the manager say BA never give drinks for their hotel!? We had pints so doubt they will pay us for that
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So long as it was beer, larger or cider I think it would be reasonable to send in the receipt and ask BA to pay the for the first pint. Or a glass of wine. If it was a pint of gin I'd only send it in for its novelty value.
#603
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we only had water and had to pay for our drinks. Poor show by BA for not giving drinks vouchers as i assumed it would be included.
We arrived at 10:30 at hotel so only the bar was open
We arrived at 10:30 at hotel so only the bar was open
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You mean no drinks at all were included (water, tea, soft drinks) or just that no alcoholic drinks were free?.
Some airlines specifically exclude reimbursement of alcoholic drinks or from their meal arrangements.
#605
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Came back to update!
So after a long 8-9 hours we eventually made it to heathrow. Someone has our names on an iPad and we were told we'd been booked on a flight via Munich. We were told to go along to the connections desk and ignore the queue because we were tight on time, but understandably a man in the queue started becoming irate at us 'pushing in' so we went back to the woman with iPad for help. She came along to print out boarding passes but by this point, given that we'd been awake since 4am and the flight not getting us into Zagreb until 10:30pm we asked to be booked on the direct flight in the morning. She said this would be fine and to go to the back of the queue to do this.
Get to the front of queue, new lady informs is direct flight in the morning is full! We ask if we can still make the one this evening to be told no, but after a couple of phone calls managed in the end to get us booked on the direct flight at 8:30am tomorrow morning.
We're booked in the Park Inn but to be honest as long as it's got a working shower and a bed right now I don't care! Up early for the Monday morning rush to get our flight.
So after a long 8-9 hours we eventually made it to heathrow. Someone has our names on an iPad and we were told we'd been booked on a flight via Munich. We were told to go along to the connections desk and ignore the queue because we were tight on time, but understandably a man in the queue started becoming irate at us 'pushing in' so we went back to the woman with iPad for help. She came along to print out boarding passes but by this point, given that we'd been awake since 4am and the flight not getting us into Zagreb until 10:30pm we asked to be booked on the direct flight in the morning. She said this would be fine and to go to the back of the queue to do this.
Get to the front of queue, new lady informs is direct flight in the morning is full! We ask if we can still make the one this evening to be told no, but after a couple of phone calls managed in the end to get us booked on the direct flight at 8:30am tomorrow morning.
We're booked in the Park Inn but to be honest as long as it's got a working shower and a bed right now I don't care! Up early for the Monday morning rush to get our flight.
Our hotel at Heathrow (Park Inn) also didn't include drinks, so I've kept the receipt for 1 glass beer/1 glass wine that we had. I also mentioned we weren't given food/drink vouchers during our 8.5 hour delay at NCL and I have the receipt for that, do they request you send them in as they process your claim? Is it paid on top of the delay compensation?
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Our hotel at Heathrow (Park Inn) also didn't include drinks, so I've kept the receipt for 1 glass beer/1 glass wine that we had. I also mentioned we weren't given food/drink vouchers during our 8.5 hour delay at NCL and I have the receipt for that, do they request you send them in as they process your claim? Is it paid on top of the delay compensation?
#607
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What does the EU Reg state? I do not know how much restriction BA can reasonably put on the type of refreshment (although some extravagent refreshemens would clearly be excluded).
Out of curiousity would it not be easier to use the BAPP or other Travel Insurance in these cases?
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What does the EU Reg state? I do not know how much restriction BA can reasonably put on the type of refreshment (although some extravagent refreshemens would clearly be excluded).
Out of curiousity would it not be easier to use the BAPP or other Travel Insurance in these cases?
Out of curiousity would it not be easier to use the BAPP or other Travel Insurance in these cases?
Basic rule is that if you are on a voucher, you get what the voucher provides. If no voucher, don't spend what you are not prepared to wind up paying for yourself. If you don't get reimbursed for liquor, there's no rule requiring it and nothing you can do.
Presuming that your travel interruption insurance provides more flexibility and coverage than whatever the carrier has on offer by way of duty of care, it's easier and better to go with that. No muss, no fuss, you know the parameters of what you can spend.
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What does the EU Reg state? I do not know how much restriction BA can reasonably put on the type of refreshment (although some extravagent refreshemens would clearly be excluded).
Out of curiousity would it not be easier to use the BAPP or other Travel Insurance in these cases?
Out of curiousity would it not be easier to use the BAPP or other Travel Insurance in these cases?
meals and refreshments in a reasonable relation to the waiting time;
A few years ago I was in a hotel near the NEC and there were pax from a delayed flight. When their orders were being taken for dinner the staff were quite clear that if someone wanted an alcoholic drink they would be billed separately for it (and no they wouldn't fiddle the order to get around it)
#610
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Ah right so wasn't just us...we were told by ba Agent that drinks were included ..he didn't say alcohol or soft drinks...
I'm.going to buy an air France ticket with my EU compensation payout
I'm.going to buy an air France ticket with my EU compensation payout
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Well that's getting a bit subjective, what is more objective is the word "reasonable". A pint of lemonade can easily be in a similar price zone as a pint of beer in a London hotel. As it happens, I'm aware that BA has in the past paid for some beer or wine in these situations.
#612
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OK Guys. Thus will be one for the BA supporters to get their backs up. As you may have seen I claimed against BA for their 22 Hour delay and after a MCOL they paid out the 600Euros. However I became very annoyed at their lies, obfuscation and also their snotty nosed holier than though attitude.
So I emailed them and asked their reasoning for not rerouting me and other Economy passengers as specified in the EU Regulations when they did reroute some Business class.
Their reply to me was that as they did not have any other BA flights back to the UK on that day there was no obligation on them to offer me rerouting. They completely ignored the fact that they rerouted some Business class punters onto a TG flight. I reminded them that the EU rules state they do indeed have to offer to reroute customers onto any carriers and once again they have disagreed. This has really got my back up now and has become a matter of principle. I complained to the CAA ages ago and they are 'allegedly' still dealing with it. What if anything can I do?
So I emailed them and asked their reasoning for not rerouting me and other Economy passengers as specified in the EU Regulations when they did reroute some Business class.
Their reply to me was that as they did not have any other BA flights back to the UK on that day there was no obligation on them to offer me rerouting. They completely ignored the fact that they rerouted some Business class punters onto a TG flight. I reminded them that the EU rules state they do indeed have to offer to reroute customers onto any carriers and once again they have disagreed. This has really got my back up now and has become a matter of principle. I complained to the CAA ages ago and they are 'allegedly' still dealing with it. What if anything can I do?
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I reminded them that the EU rules state they do indeed have to offer to reroute customers onto any carriers and once again they have disagreed. This has really got my back up now and has become a matter of principle. I complained to the CAA ages ago and they are 'allegedly' still dealing with it. What if anything can I do?
The relevant clause that I am aware of in EC/261 is quoted below, and unfortunately it does not specify "other" or indeed "any" carriers. I think the lawmakers probably intended it to mean that, but regrettably this isn't specified clearly in the legislation.
To the best of my knowledge, no EU airline applies EC/261 with that interpretation on a consistent basis. The low cost carriers, with one flight a week, will cheerfully put people up a week in a hotel until their next service, for example, though if people take matters into their own hands and bill the airlines for alternative travel they do tend to pay up.
BA tends to re-route to other carriers more than any other major airline outside the USA, but as you imply, they generally do that for CW/First/status passengers on the whole. This doesn't seem to be EC/261 related, they have worked that way for as long as I can remember, and certainly before the current Regulation came into effect. In a way BA should do more of it to reduce their liabilities (e.g. getting people to their destination within 2 to 4 hours) and I suspect they don't due to the hard work involved versus the likely position that not all people make claims even when entitled to them.
Originally Posted by EC/261
(12) The trouble and inconvenience to passengers caused by cancellation of flights should also be reduced. This should be achieved by inducing carriers to inform passengers of cancellations before the scheduled time of departure and in addition to offer them reasonable rerouting, so that the passengers can make other arrangements. Air carriers should compensate passengers if they fail to do this, except when the cancellation occurs in extraordinary circumstances which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken.
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If you are re-routed on another carrier are you not entitled to the reduced rate of compensation as long as the re-route gets you there 1 minute later than your scheduled BA arrival?